reply to post by MamaJ
There is only one way to divide from the one and that is to tri-vide
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
Jesus Christ is the Phi Ratio Son of God
The Golden Proportion is analogous to God’s relationship to creation
The Golden Section, or Phi, found throughout nature, also applies in understanding the relationship of God to Creation. In the golden section, we see
that there is only one way to divide a line so that its parts are in proportion to, or in the image of, the whole:
The ratio of the larger section (B) to the whole line (A) is the same as the ratio
as the smaller section (C) to the large section (B):
Only “tri-viding” the whole preserves the relationship to the whole
And so it is with our understanding of God, that we are created in His image. Not by dividing the whole, but only by tri-viding the whole does each
piece retain its unique relationship to the whole. Only here do we see three that are two that are one.
The Book of John begins with these words that capture the essence of this:
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
Jesus, in John 14:9, expressed a similar thought:
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
Is it a lie that inevitably in the fullness of time and history one among us would come to embody the fullness of what this means and represents?
Of course when we look at the Bible with new eyes we come to recognize that many of the stories are encoded reflections for processes involving our
relationship to the moon, the sun, the (visible) planets and the visible stars, even the galaxy, some of which may or may not even have taken place as
historical fact, such is the way of myth, but their efficacy (see the writings of Joseph Campbell) even as myth aren't diminished in the least,
becauise of what it is designed to teach and show us in regards to something rather marvelous about our place in the creation and our relationship
with the transcendant Godhead who is not disinterested or "static" as some deists might assume. In other words it's a frame of reference or a
framework which contains a developing prophecy, even through man's struggle to find and to know God. What comes as a marvel however, is when these
ancient mythological stories are validated here and there by archeology, even (as may be the case) astroarcheology, and we come to see that something
played itself out in history while reflecting, as myth, that to which it points ie: that the downward causation was so strong that heavenly things
began to manifest themselves in accord with the ancient wisdom and holy science, in earthly ways, for example - the 12 tribes of Israel representing
both the Hebrew lunar calendar as well as the twelve signs of the zodiac of the precession of the equinox (great age) as but a case in point.
To then see and recognize in the fullness of this ancient historical and mystical process, going all the way back to anceint Egypt and beyond, the
and the "story" played out with intentional awareness as part of a Great Work of all Ages, well that's just astounding,
because it adds to an already infinitely complex, cosmological, evolutionary process, an evolving mystical and mythical process whereby the higher
(uncaused cause) reflects the lower (manifestation) and the lower, the higher, even to the very highest height (eventually).
In this regard Jesus was accurate in his assessment of God, not as an actor or an agent, but as both the Absolute and the first/last cause or the
Alpha and Omega (source, with intent) relative to which he maintained an indespensible I-thou relationship
of son to familiar, intimate father
(Abba - papa), while at the same time working to determine with absolute precision and perfection (without any loss of integrity) what his nature was
as both son of man and son of God and what it was that he must do (as actor) to honor his true nature and carry out his fated calling as a sent-person
in this case sent from a love (in mutuality, from first father to son) which both transcends time and space, and yet nevertheless, is actively
creative and therefore becomes manifest, and must do so
, eventually - with the arrow pointing, to himself, as the final and eventual embodiment
of the will and intent of the father, which is the love shared between father and son and shared by them through the son with us included and
reintegrated, not by our own doing or striving, but because of the love which preceeded us.
But the timing of it.. the superdeterministic element, when all is said and done, to see that and recognize that aspect, well then you just might get
the joke and understand what was meant when it was said that in and through the person and work of Jesus Christ, by design and intent
punk'd us all!
What does that mean? It means to be turned inside out, and to have our typical human conceptions turned upside down and to, at the very end of a long
long process of development and refinement at last come to realize that everything that can be known about our true nature and our true place and
"stature" in the creation was in a domain previously inaccessible as the uknown unknown (what we didn't know and didn't know we didn't know),
prevented from revealing itself to us, not in our open-minded seeking but only in accordance with everything we thought
we knew or presumed to
, which forms a rather limited sphere of possible knowledge and understanding, by comparison.
It's the awe and wonderment on the other side of a supreme facepalm moment.
Yet for he who already presumes to know, that person is totally screwed when the truth is made known, but "screwed" only to the degree that he cannot
laugh or cry at his own prior ignorance in the face of it, and who would rather walk away from the truth and the light back into his own subjective
prison cell of isolate consciousness wherein everthing he thinks he already knows is just more dancing shadows on the dark wall of his stubborn
delusion. That's funny! But can the man see the joke and have the courage and the wisdom to laugh at himself, that's the question - when will he be
set free in the knowledge of the truth that sets us free..?
So it's a great and wonderful joke either fully appreciated, or just waiting in the wings.. a joke capable of bringing about (In the fullness of time
and history) nothing less than our very individual and collective salvation. I'm serious.
September 16th, 2012.
edit on 16-9-2012 by NewAgeMan because: edit