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reply to post by NewAgeMan
As to the evidence that the date of April 3rd, 33AD jives with the lunar eclipse, again, see The Day of the Cross and watch the first of the two videos above, and if you have the time and the wherwithall, buy the astronomy software to verify it for yourself, which I intend to so some day.
This number should be guarded against getting too idealistic and delving only in dreams. Every vision should be backed up by a practical purpose, only then `Three` will gets its due credit for bringing a lot of knowledge, light and progress in this world.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by daskakik
Hahahaha.... Ok. :-)
How do you see " it" without Jesus?
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by daskakik
Hahahaha.... Ok. :-)
How do you see " it" without Jesus?
Not sure I understand your question. How do I see "it" if it isn't through Jesus or how can I see the bigger picture and not see Jesus in "it"?
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by MamaJ
I see Jesus and where I once saw something amazing, I now only see that it is a fabrication. Even if the man existed and even if he was a enlightened, the rest of the story isn't true.
As for Jesus being everywhere and in everything, I don't know what you are hanging the label of Jesus on, but it has nothing to do with some person that walked around the middle east two thousand years ago.
edit on 16-9-2012 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MamaJ
It has everything to do with him but not in an orthodox sense you are hanging onto. Let that go and begin again.
You are right, his story begins before Jesus and after him.
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by MamaJ
It has everything to do with him but not in an orthodox sense you are hanging onto. Let that go and begin again.
You are right, his story begins before Jesus and after him.
Sorry but that is you attributing something to Jesus that does not exist because you need to hang unto Jesus in one way or another.
Originally posted by MamaJ
I never need to hang onto anything, unless it's useful.
Let's get that clear.
You continue to be blinded by the light, yet don't see it.
I'm telling you post after post I do and even still, you are unwilling to open your eyes.
When I put the bible down, never ever did I expect to come back to it. It sure wasn't cause I wanted or didn't want to I just wanted the TRUTH.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
Jesus Christ is the Phi Ratio Son of God
The Golden Proportion is analogous to God’s relationship to creation
The Golden Section, or Phi, found throughout nature, also applies in understanding the relationship of God to Creation. In the golden section, we see that there is only one way to divide a line so that its parts are in proportion to, or in the image of, the whole:
The ratio of the larger section (B) to the whole line (A) is the same as the ratio as the smaller section (C) to the large section (B):
Only “tri-viding” the whole preserves the relationship to the whole
And so it is with our understanding of God, that we are created in His image. Not by dividing the whole, but only by tri-viding the whole does each piece retain its unique relationship to the whole. Only here do we see three that are two that are one.
The Book of John begins with these words that capture the essence of this:
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
Jesus, in John 14:9, expressed a similar thought:
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
Is it a lie that inevitably in the fullness of time and history one among us would come to embody the fullness of what this means and represents?
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Cosmic
“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you."
~ John 13:34
Joy to the World
Joy to the World , the Lord is come!
Let earth receive her King;
Let every heart prepare Him room,
And Heaven and nature sing,
And Heaven and nature sing,
And Heaven, and Heaven, and nature sing.
Joy to the World, the Savior reigns!
Let men their songs employ;
While fields and floods, rocks, hills and plains
Repeat the sounding joy,
Repeat the sounding joy,
Repeat, repeat, the sounding joy.
No more let sins and sorrows grow,
Nor thorns infest the ground;
He comes to make His blessings flow
Far as the curse is found,
Far as the curse is found,
Far as, far as, the curse is found.
He rules the world with truth and grace,
And makes the nations prove
The glories of His righteousness,
And wonders of His love,
And wonders of His love,
And wonders, wonders, of His love.
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by r2d246
Not true. The bible is also a great tool of division. Just look at all the christian denominations. How can something containing absolute truth be interpreted in so many ways? I'm sure you have an answer ready, but I'm also sure that it won't convince me.
I don't know any creator and I am not in search of anything. I feel pretty comfy with what I have come to know as truth, while leaving a door open just in case something new comes along.
edit on 15-9-2012 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by r2d246
The main points of the bible all main stream christians must agree upon, otherwise they're not accepted or considered Christians. 2 examples that claim to be but have not been accepted by main stream Christianity are: Mormons and JW's. They don't believe in the trinity which is one of the main points that all christians denominations must accept. Why not instead of arguing with me you pic up a bible or go online and find one and read one lousy chapter of the new testiment and see what you think?