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posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 10:02 PM

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Misoir

I really hate short replies but this one does not need much elaboration. Romney has so many advantages over Obama due to his near total failure as a President except one - Mitt Romney. That is Obama's greatest benefit. If anything saves Obama this election it is Mitt Romney.

No worries about being short…I think you’re right.

Romney isn’t the candidate of choice for many…but he’s not OBAMA!

I sure wish Obama had a real opponent because we’d be looking at a damn landslide right now (and maybe some serious change in the right direction too).

Though I feel Romney is likely the other side of the same coin I do believe he IS a STEP (just a small step) in the right direction simply because he appears to be a free market capitalist rather than a Marxist.

I keep on hearing this, Romney is not Obama - which is true....but many conservatives are getting tired of the lesser of two evils rhetoric. Also, it doesn't speak well of Romney when that is the best one can come up with for voting for him. Romney simply doesn't appear to be conservative to many conservatives.....he flip flops too often, and in other issues he looks like an Obama clone. (Romneycare, Patriot Act, NDAA and cybersecurity)

Also, it it my opinion that like Obama, Romney won't be a supporter of capitalism, but just more cronyism.

posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 10:11 PM

Originally posted by behindXtheXveil
The numbers don't really mean anything to me, I've been aware that Obama hasn't done a damn thing in four years for awhile now. Unfortunately he will probably win in 2012 because I don't think many people believe Romney would/will be any better

Please don't get me wrong, I am NOT an obama supporter. #2 Please don't get me wrong, I am NOT a romney supporter. I do NOT like nor support either of these two.

Here is what I'd like to bring up ------ there were/are a lot of people that said/say they would rather vote for a tin can or a shoe than obama. Unless these people have been broken down by the propaganda on-slaught by the obama campaign, romney AND Dr. Paul still have a good shot.

We might as well write in "shoe" if you vote for obama or romney cuz obama and romney are nothing but shoes to be worn by TPTB.

O and R are NOT capitalized as a sign of disrespect.

posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 10:18 PM
reply to post by stanguilles7

You mean the link in the post you are responding to? The link you cut out when you cut when you posted the above reply? That link?

Here it is again:

Whoops…my bad!

Intrade is an online betting website that buys and sells 'shares' of preictions for various events, from sports to natural disasters to politics, etc. I'm not sure how that could be considered 'propaganda'. It's more like a fairly accurate barometer.

Based on Romney’s campaign they may be right but based on the FACTS of this POTUS’s record I surely don’t see how.

I think he'll win. This is all pre-planned.

Maybe…but I doubt TPTB would put him in such a bad situation if that was their guy.

Ice Cream. More Ice Cream.

And hats. Lots of funny hats. And Ponies.

Oh, wait, that's Vermin Supreme.

It must be all the “Obama money” that some expect (and many more have received).

edit on 28-7-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 10:40 PM
Obama is a Pandering, Polarizing, do nothing President.......

In case you missed the Fall blockbuster coming out, I give you this still clip........

Sauron approves.....

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:40 AM
The GDP formula was never intended to represent the true wealth of nations economies his creator said that it was never to be taken seriously, that is because as many factors are taken out of content some ignored for the benefit of agendas.

GDP was first developed by Simon Kuznets for a US Congress report in 1934,[4] who immediately said not to use it as a measure for welfare

GDP gauges the total reported output of goods and services. As many critics have noted over the years, it fails as a measure of people's well-being. Robert F. Kennedy said it succinctly in 1968: GDP "measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile." GDP leaves out things such as income inequality, the intensity of poverty, economic security, crime costs, the economic value of civic and voluntary work, the economic value of unpaid housework and child care, educational attainment and life expectancy. It’s a measure that assigns zero value to leisure time, to the depletion of mineral and other natural resources, to the benefits of saving, to trade imbalances, to deficits and debt.

Many people have not clue what the GDP is what it means and how is used.

But when figures are given and they look good thanks to manipulation and propaganda people bite into it because they do not understand how it works if it works at all.

Corporate profits are at record levels, compensation for the magnates of Wall Street are soaring again, trillions of dollars are tucked into off-shore hideaways out of the taxman's reach and hoi oligoi are buying more luxury goods than ever. But growth in the number of jobs for people outside this golden circle of affluence is likely to remain well below what is needed to reduce the vast ranks of the unemployed, millions of them out of work for six months or longer.

When the growth comes from the elite in power GDP will always look good vs the common hard worker in the nation.

Is all matter of who is profiting and GDP do not specified because that is how manipulation works.

Obama is a joke he use the GDP for his advantage just like all those before him did.

Consumer spending, which makes up about 70 percent of U.S. economic activity, increased at a 1.5 percent rate, a step down from the 2.4 percent pace logged in the previous three months.

Consumer spending was the weakest in a year. Much of that reflected a drop in spending on long-lasting goods such as automobiles, which had buoyed consumption in the prior period.

If you brake down the GDP figures you will find that is nothing but a sugar coated joke for the benefit of the presidential campaign elections this year.

The only thing that has grown in America is the debt, unemployment and inequality.

edit on 29-7-2012 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:10 AM

Originally posted by seabag
I expect to get flamed but I’d really like people to take an honest look at this. Lets put the partisanship aside and look at the reality on the ground. The video below is a great example of propaganda IMO. Just as Obama is hitting new all-time lows the MSM roll out this garbage!

Except you never put it aside but you expect everyone to take you seriously. You call everything that doesn't agree with your world view propaganda. You never wanted serious disscussion, you just wanted to noodle whip the "liberals" like you always do.

I have seen many different polls that have Romney up and some that have Obama up. It's typical. We'll see who wins when that day comes around.

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