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New Crop Circle: UK - Looks Great ! - Makes Compass Go Crazy - July 25, 2012

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 02:08 AM

Originally posted by Human_Alien

From the books I've read (Collin Andrews) and videos I've watched (Nancy Talbott) most of the 300 circles each year are of unknown origin.

That's because Andrews and Talbot don't know the people who made the circles. Moreover, if the "mystery" was solved their books would be valueless.

No footprints or tracks or any indication of human intervention can be detected.

Do you leave footprints everywhere you walk? The tracks are always present in crop formations - the tram lines then the formation itself.

Not a piece of wood or clothing or hair or cigarette butt.

Why would they leave the plank or their clothing behind after they made the circle? Which crop circle researcher has scoured the entire formation looking for a human hair or cigarette butt? If they have never found a cig butt does that mean no humans were possibly present or the makers didn't smoke? Further, if no signs of human presence can be detected how does this explain the obvious presence of the land owner, circle sight-seers and the researchers themselves? No footprints, no hairs, no cigarette butts but photos clearly showing humans inside the formation!

And no one takes credit. Hell if I did it I'd friggin sign it!!

Circle makers often do take credit. Others keep quite so as not to be charged with trespass and crop damage plus they enjoy seeing people make wild claims about the origin of the pattern they've made.

This is not to say some of them are not hoaxes but if these were all then, we wouldn't be having this debate now would we?

None of them are hoaxes. They're all man-made. None of the people who have made them have claimed they are anything other than man-made. They generally keep quite and say nothing and let the pattern be discovered and explained by those who know nothing about it. It is the researchers who didn't see the team produce the formation that make the crazy claims about its origins. The researchers are the hoaxers.

And they are beautiful.

Many of them are. But so is the work of Michael Angelo and even parts of the Olympics opening ceremony were beautiful but it doesn't mean they weren't man-made. If humans can't stomp down corn then how can they possibly paint a masterpiece?

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 02:50 AM
what a boring and crappy crop circle. Hell, the center line from the middle of the circle radiating out through the "stem" part isn't straight at all. Not even close.


posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 03:42 AM
reply to post by Eurisko2012

That is so sad.

These poor farmers worked so hard to grow these fields only to have them destroyed by pranksters who like to show up in the middle of the night , do their art and then sit back and laugh at the all the gullible people who come out in groves and with equipment and gadgets swearing the aliens did it.

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 03:47 AM

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 03:47 AM

Originally posted by WeRpeons

The non-believers don't have to prove anything. It's the believers with this outrageous claim that have to. I have to think these threads are posted with the intent to rile people. It's hard for me to comprehend a normal person having at least average intelligence, actually believing all of this. Claims made by other people and based completely on what other people say. It makes me wonder how far this mentality spills over into their normal life. To what extent do they take the words of what other people say as proof of some other outrageous claims.
reply to post by Ectoplasm8

Dark matter didn't exist until a few years ago. The "God particle" was just a theory until just recently. How about string theory? Other dimensions, parallel universe, warping time and space, sounds like science fiction doesn't it? I remember when a doctor was ridiculed because he believed bacteria was the cause of ulcers. Everyone laughed at him until he ingested the same bacteria to prove it. What about organisms we didn't think existed in the deep waters of the arctic?

When people think with a closed mind and don't take into consideration the possibility of other realities, new discoveries would never happen. Your position that non-believers don't have to prove anything is keeping one eye open and one eye shut. You want to perceive what you want to believe.

Let's look at the facts: Humans can and have created crop circles. Extraterrestrial beings have not been proven to create any. That being the case, why would any further evidence be needed on something that has already been proven, over one that has not? You need to prove first, without a reasonable doubt, that alien beings come down at night and make these and leave. Then we have two viable possibilities of crop circles. Otherwise, the fact(humans) outweigh the fiction(ETs) and there's no equal ground for an argument. Many people here speak as if it's a 100% fact that ETs make some crop circles, so prove that they don't. That's backwards.

I guess a prosecutor doesn't need to prove his case because they know their telling the truth. The same thing goes for a defendant. The same thing applies here.

That analogy doesn't apply here. You can't compare a court case, which will try to prove a case on both sides using reasonable arguments, to this situation. That is, unless the court case argument is about someone being killed by a ghost, or alien, or Bigfoot etc etc etc..

Your condescending remarks about intelligence is really quite naive. You don't know how much education anyone has here, so to make that remark is rather rude on your part. Anyone that has ever taken a simple astronomy class would realize it would be rather ignorant to believe that intelligent life couldn't exist anywhere else in the universe. Just because humans haven't conquered the technology to travel long distances in space, doesn't mean other intelligent life forms can't.

Overall intelligence, to me, encompasses at least a basic understanding and logic of general things. Education doesn't necessarily make you more intelligent than an uneducated person. In this case, I'm speaking in terms of the basic "intelligence". If you were insulted, then so be it. I'm an anonymous person making statements to anonymous people. Take it for what it is.

I've posted my thoughts on intelligent life in other posts enough. But, basically, I do believe in the possibility of intelligent life outside of earth. I don't however believe the possibility is that great. Not so great that the universe is teaming with ETs piloting UFOs everywhere.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 03:51 AM

Another example.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 04:07 AM

Originally posted by CallYourBluff

Originally posted by soulwaxer
I have a a few questions for Phage.

I have read many of your posts throughout the years, and appreciate your knowledge on a wide variety of subjects, whether or not you find your info on the fly at times.

What drives you? Is it just your curiosity, and do you want to learn as much as possible in order to understand reality? And if so, what drives your curiosity? Do you have a sense that there might be a mystery that defies reason?

Or are you absolutely convinced that everything has a perfectly acceptable explanation, and therefore out to convince everyone of that? And again, if so, why? The reason I ask this last bit is that I'm a bit baffled as to why you would spend so much time on a matter of which you are already convinced ("All crop circles are man-made.").

Don't take this as a challenge to your intentions. I really am curious.

Thanks in advance!
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It's because the copy and paste king loves to feed his ego.

Could be, but somehow I doubt that. Would have liked an answer from the man himself though.

Concerning the topic at hand:
These crop circles could indeed all be man-made, but not with any technology we are supposed to know about (and if so, why not?). As a poster above already mentioned, the nodes of the stalks outside of the circle are also affected, be it to a lesser degree. The pattern of this is identical to the fading of light on the floor outwards from the center under a light source.
As for their purpose, if aliens make them, many people assume that they are trying to communicate with us. There could be many other purposes of which we have no clue. Just off the top of my head: They could be communicating with each other. They could be their own form of art. There could be a spiritual aspect to them. Etc.
For me, the best way to tell if a crop circle is not made by men with planks and rope is the feeling I get from them. Some of them, especially the 3D ones, have a magical feel to them. Also the sheer size and perfection of some of them.

530 x 450 meters (approximately 40 FOOTBALL FIELDS!!!):

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 04:10 AM
reply to post by Phage

Rednecks are the original circlemakers.

But yes, Matthew Williams was arrested a long time ago, and there was a thread about this one a couple years ago.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 04:25 AM

Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by Eurisko2012

That is so sad.

These poor farmers worked so hard to grow these fields only to have them destroyed by pranksters who like to show up in the middle of the night , do their art and then sit back and laugh at the all the gullible people who come out in groves and with equipment and gadgets swearing the aliens did it.

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The wheat is still perfectly harvistable just the same as the many acres of crops flattened by winds every year here in the UK. Alot of farmers actually make a little extra by charging the tourists etc a small fee to enter thier fields.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 04:27 AM

Originally posted by Wh00pS

Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by Eurisko2012

That is so sad.

These poor farmers worked so hard to grow these fields only to have them destroyed by pranksters who like to show up in the middle of the night , do their art and then sit back and laugh at the all the gullible people who come out in groves and with equipment and gadgets swearing the aliens did it.

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The wheat is still perfectly harvistable just the same as the many acres of crops flattened by winds every year here in the UK. Alot of farmers actually make a little extra by charging the tourists etc a small fee to enter thier fields.

Well, as long as they are okay with it. Then I guess it's cool.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 04:32 AM

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Field reports indicate we have a real one here.

The compass goes crazy when standing inside of the crop circle.

The Grays throw down iron filings when they create their crop circles.

When the high energy plasma hits the filings they are transformed into tiny iron spheres.

Read about field reports here:

- Real Crop Circle Appears - Wiltshire UK -

This one involves our moon.

Lady from Oregon is watching her compass go crazy.

I wish i was there to tell her why.

- Compass Goes Crazy -
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It is not the grays that are doing this.
"The grays "Throw" "Down" iron fillings?, thanks for the chuckle.

This has been going on for CENTURIES, not "ALL" of these are of alien origin, Not all of these are "Faked".
The crop circles have been used as a means of discovering when we are ready to communicate with the intelligence behind them.
For a very long time they have been appearing in the fields of southern England, in and around the areas of ancient sites, for a very long time all the reaction was, was one of bewilderment and not much more.
Then, Colin Andrews, Pat Delgado, Busty Taylor (I have met some of these guys, they are not lightweight researchers, they are electrical scientists, one worked for Nasa tracking satellites from woomera Australia)
Began researching the "Phenomena" and after a few years the circles began to take on a different kind of perspective and began to exhibit more complex features.
To those that say all of these are fake, you have no idea, and if you do believe they are all fake, you are far to easily dismissing scientific research that shows the real ones are being formed by a point of energy that dissipates under the inverse square law.
A PHD scientist proved this many years ago, The Crop circles also contain evidence of a higher knowledge of geometry than that found on earth.

Colin Andrews is the most Learned researcher in the field of crop circles, this is a video he produced.
Please pay attention to the "State of the art" of man-made crop circles, at the time the double helix DNA crop circle went down at stonehenge.
This crop formation happened during daylight hours, in a period of less than 40minutes, a microlight pilot on his way to photograph another crop circle overflew the area on his way out, and found it on the way back, he is sure it was not there on the way out.

It is Laughable to even consider that at a time when people were barely able to create a decent crop circle, that the 1000 foot across designs, the crop circles with 300+ circles, the node damage, are the work of "Doug and Dave",
The farmers evidence, The Government, The researchers, and basic common sense saying, it is NOT Human in origin, That there is a phenomena, To dismiss them out of hand with no effort to determine the truth, only serves to deny the truth of the phenomena.

The British government has stated in the house of commons five times, that they believe there is a genuine phenomena, how do they know, why would they be sure enough to make that statement?
Well the British governments interest went far beyond just being vaguely interested, they dropped SAS troops, special forces reconnaissance experts into the fields to monitor the situation, they recorded balls of light, and the appearance of crop circles.

Remember this is not America, The uk is very heavily populated for a small island, we do not have "vast" tracts of uninhabited land for miles and miles, we have a farming community and the land in the uk is managed extremely carefully, nothing is out of reach, anywhere in the wiltshire countryside is reachable in a very short time.
The farmers are bright enough to know if people have accessed there fields, how many footprints would enough people to make a crop circle leave?.
The farmers evidence of no one having been in the fields is to often overlooked.

Don't dismiss this out of hand, if anyone wants a tour of these places, or wants to spend some time actually out there doing some field research, u2u me, i have been there many times before, and i love spending time out there during the height of summer.
Also in this video, watch for the Heart shaped crop circle, there are two people sat in it, One of those people is me (i'm on the left).

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 04:49 AM
Here's another good new one, check it out.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Phage

All crop circles are man made. It probably has something to do with how recent they are.

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I don't think there is any reason to rule out extra-terrestrial involvement in some crop circles. Do you have any proof to back up your claim that all crop circles are man made? It sounds rather like a belief than a fact to me. I thought the information about the iron fillings and the expulsion cavities on the wheat stalks was informative and something to look into more, not something to discount. At the very least, investigating these issues could find out their causes are man-made, if they are.

So first, let's examine the issue of the growth on the wheat stalks. I think you did a rather good job convincing me that the photo's original intention was not to compare real crop circles to man-made ones. However, what about the original idea that the expulsion cavities appear only on some crop circles?

It appears that there is evidence of this, in fact there is a website here that details in-depth research on crop circles following the scientific method. It has found these expulsion cavities occurred in crop circles, but not in their control studies, which were basically man-made crop circles. They even have an explanation for them.

These holes are thought to be one of the plant abnormalities caused by exposure to microwave radiation which -- particularly in circles which occur in young, green crop -- instantly turns the plant's internal moisture to steam. If the microwaves are intense enough -- and the amount of moisture at the stem node great enough -- the rapidly expanding steam in these lower nodes can only escape by blowing holes out through the tough external fibers in these lower nodes.

This website explains some differences between authentic and non-authentic crop circles.

One of the most interesting claims, in my opinion, is that some people have witnessed a crop circle being made before their eyes.

Better : a non-negligible number of people have been able to directly see a crop circle being created, and have been able to witness it.

In closing, here is a video showing an example of this. I have seen other videos of this in the past, as well.

Maybe I should do a thread on the science behind real vs. man-made crop circles sometime.

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:01 AM
You do realize that the formation in the crop circle is intentionally not in a straight line?

It exactly matches what we call the procession of the equinox. I'm not big on crop circles as it's too easy to fake. But in my opinion some of them are genuine. I grew up on a farm, and we tried to make crop circles. It's difficult and not easy to do with the board. It's also impossible not to leave tracks.

This crop circles spins compasses because of the all the iron. It's made with unbelievable precision, with the curve of the circles perfect to show procession of the equinox. The dust iron particles used to spin compasses is NOT something I can easily duplicate in a laboratory even with millions of dollars of equipment. It's really hard to even get iron dust into that fine of a powder with our best equipment and to have it magnetize in a manner to spin compasses.

The reason I know some of them are genuine is I have personally witness what is commonly referred to as orbs created a crop circles when I was younger.

In my opinion this is genuine. Look at the pictures on crop circle connector, then read the field notes. There's usually quite a bit of scientist who check out crop circles, and will easily tell the fake from real ones. It's too difficult to fake them and not leave a trail. If you interview any of the people who make crop circle ads you'll quickly find out they make them after seeing ones they believe were made potentially by other beings. It would take them 3-4 days to make something on this scale, and during that time the wheat wither and die and you can easily tell that it's man made even if it only takes 30 minutes to create crop circle.

Crop circles that are genuine appear to have all the damage to the wheat done in a matter of seconds… not minutes or hours (as appears here).

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

I didn't get the image from that site - that site was recently made even though it has a 2001 date on it.

I don't care where you got it from.
The site is not recently made. Here it is on the waybackmachine archive from July 2, 2001:
Go here:
And paste this link

Also, again the big issue and the only one that matters, why do the ET crop circle stalks exhibit that growth, and man made crop circle clearly do not?

All crop circles are man made. Why does lodged wheat display that growth?

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aaahhh HHHeeemmm!!

google image search shows 49 results

your way produces the result you want it to produce

What are you talking about?
It's not a google search. It's the wayback machine (web archive) which shows that the website we were discussing, the source of the image, was there in 2001, not "recently made" as claimed.

Read the post. Read the post I was replying to.

oh but i did, please don't tell me i didn't read it right

sorry for the delay, just when I was about to reply
I lost my internet.

I run net diagnostics:

The DNS server isn't responding
your computer is trying to use a DNS server that is incorrect or doesnt exist.


As I was saying

right click on pic
Select search image on Google

51 results

Links don't seem to paste here so I’ll just post the screen shot:

As the OP has stated, he did not get the pic from where you insist he did.

As I have already pointed out your way of “proving” he got it from where YOU say he did,

cannot give any other answer THAN THE ONE YOU HAVE PREDETERMINED.

And that’s not playing according to Hoyle, my dear fellow…

As I’ve already shown there are 47 [out of 49 last night]other places he could have gotten the pic[he cannot of course have gotten it from his own thread]

Now then I don’t see that HumanAlien has posted the video here
So I’ll just do it and give credit to HA for having posted it on another crop circle thread

That done I would like to point out that those “orbs” are Sylphs [Air Elementals]

Originally posted by eriktheawful

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by eriktheawful

am I supposed to take you seriously? as if anything you said had any bearing on anything worth thinking about?

Yes you should.

Think about it. How many people do you see who say:

A) Some crop circles are made by aliens only.
B) Alien crop circles are aliens trying to communicate with us.


Now again: think. Crop circles as a form of communication by an advanced alien intelligence. So advanced they can travel the vast distances between the stars (an vast amount of power to do so).

Yet to communicate, they flatten plants (I don't care how complex the pattern is, it's still flattening plants).

When instead, they could communicate by many, many other means, and it would:

A) Leave NO doubt that it was not of this earth.
B) Be clearly visible to everyone in the world.

So yes, I'm being very serious.

merely substitute sylph for aliens and your question is answered.

and I'm being very serious as well.

I believe crop circles are created by planetary elementals of the air called "Sylphs". Sylphs may also be called "Wingmakers". In the Encyclopedia of the Occult by Manley P. Hall, the chief Sylph is named Shad and he is very ancient and powerful.

The Sylphs coordinate weather, climate, forest growth, forest fires, land animal migrations, bird migrations and the dissolution of static magnetics (Dor) in the atmosphere. They are INTRA-dimensional existing in both the third and fourth dimensional densities.

I heard about "Powers of the Air" as far back as 1970. I saw a female Sylph above West Vancouver in 1972. In 1984 I bought Trevor James Constable's book on infrared photography of Sylphs in which they have amoeba-like heat signatures on the specially prepared photographic plates. They are actually slender beings as the Greek term sylph means thin. Constable wrote that the USAF as far back as 1960 set up microwave defenses against Sylphs who they blamed for gremlins in aircraft and psychic disturbances against pilots. It is probable that the USAF was in violation of natural law and the Sylphs were trying to correct the Air Force's practises. Crop Circles are a continuation of the Sylph's desire to warn men to stop their environmental, psychic and spiritual crimes.

Sylphs are sylph shaped, like slender graceful young women. Paracelsus coined the term to apply to creatures of the air that he witnessed. Sylphs are male and female and they grow larger over their long lives, yet they retain their willowy appearance. Shad, their chief, is hundreds of feet tall and is approaching the size that he will find it more comfortable to migrate to the belt of comets beyond Pluto's orbit. Sylphs have no problem flying through space even though they are borne of the air and aether. Each comet is a being, an ancient sylph. When Halley's Comet returned in 1986 its magnetic field could be photographed creating a bow-shock and wake in the solar magnetic field 100,000 miles away from the dirty snowball of the 10 mile long comet body. That means the magnetic field of the INTRA-dimensional cometary being is 100,000 miles across. The comet core is like a pearl in a very large oyster.

Trevor James Constable, wrote about the US Air Force sending out Foo-Fighters during the Second World War to photograph and possibly shoot down the wing enveloping lights which were spooking their bomber crews. The German airmen were seeing similar phenomena and they named them gremlins. These gremlins were also known to cause mechanical problems in aircraft. Constable does not cite the bombing runs during which the Foo-gremlins caused problems but knowing Sylphs it was probably during the fire-bombings of Dresden and other cities where innocent civilians were killed. The Sylphs are advanced consciousnesses and they would have deemed such murder as entirely evil. The Luftwaffe may have seen gremlins during their bombings of London, Stalingrad and Leningrad where many people were killed.

Shad who personally witnessed the atomic war of 2024 BC and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 would harrass B-52 pilots and crews in such a way to let them know that what they are doing with atomic weaponry was stupid. Shad would activate or shut down non-essential systems. Also he would find fatal flaws in the systems which could cause crashes and point out where the problems were while the plane was still on the ground. Shad may have prevented the crashes of many atomic bomb carrying aircraft, "broken-arrows". These Sylphs were a pest to the pilots and ground crews and in many ways prevented the USAF from carrying out their missions. So the Air Force developed ways of detecting and repelling Sylphs.

Infrared photography showed the presence of Sylphs but it took time to develop the film. Royal Rife and Ruth B. Drown instruments could instantly detect Sylphs. Microwave and radio frequencies were discovered which repelled Sylphs. From a Sylph's prespective these "sounds" are like fingernails scraping across a chalkboard, irritating. Radar was developed which detected and repelled Sylphs. The frequencies used in dopplar-weather radar irritate Sylphs. Constable placing one of his infrared photos of a Sylph on the metal plate of a Ruth B. Drown diagnostic machine was able to determine that calcium was a major component of the third dimensional portion of the airy body. He later determined that the calcium was in an air gel web or mesh. As the air gel is less than one percent of the Sylph, the Sylphs were able to adapt and continue their bothersome behaviour against the nuclear armed nations of the world.

The USAF is made up of military types who think in friend or foe, them or us scenerios. The Sylphs are working against the Air Force and therefore are enemies, so the USAF is going to find their weaknesses and neutralize them. In truth Sylphs are coordinating a large part of the world's ecology and to neutalize (kill) Sylphs would destroy life on Earth. It is the military thought process which is the real enemy. The Sylphs have diverted weather fronts to help aircraft and people on the ground. They have done everything possible to prevent nuclear war. Some pilots who carry good conscious awareness were psychically warned away from deadly situations. Destructive wind and rain happens but if the large weather fronts from the tropics were shutdown the temperate climates worldwide would turn into deserts. Now the USAF and others want to take over the job of running the world's weather. They do not have a friggin idea about what drives weather. The Air Force may be trying to kill all Sylphs in order to take the responsibility to make weather for their own purposes. It would be just another plan to depopulate the world wholesale.

The GWEN , ELF and HAARP arrays were first developed as ways to destroy Sylphs, the enemy of the USAF. After fifty years Sylphs still own the skies. There is a military adage that whoever owns the skies has the superior tactical advantage and will eventually win the war on the ground (should it be decided that the ground war must cease). As Wilhelm Reich discovered deadly orgone accumulates over cities and wherever man applies unbalanced magnetic and electromagnetic fields. The basic problem creating deadly orgone is the conflict between men and women. Sylphs are constantly using wind, rain, lightning, thunder and fire to breakup concentrations of static or deadly orgone.

(Under Universal Spiritual Law the Sylphs are allowed to correct these imbalances because deadly orgone creates "unmerited karma" against a large portion of the population. As the catalytic conditions which could result from these static conditions are undeserved then the Sylphs can take action. Virtually all acts of war are "unmerited karma" due to the presence of innocent non-combatants.)

People using Reich instruments under Wingmaker (Sylph) guidance are assisting in the breaking up of static magnetics. The Wingmakers are asking for assistance on the ground because the chemtrails and electromagnetics from HAARP and GWEN are making it difficult for them to function over the USA and other western nations. The NWO wants a curtain of deadly orgone overtop cities so that they can control people. The western USA is drying out due to static magnetics over the whole region. Aluminium particles are used to get inside Sylphs and zap their air gels. Mycoplasma bacteria is only unhealthy to Sylphs when they work inside deadly orgone. The flooding of the San Antonio region may have destroyed a band of GWENs making it possible to move monsoon like summer rain to New Mexico and Arizona. The 1993 flood of the Mississippi was a test to place a deadly orgone cap over "Dead" Moines and St. Louis. Such a cap would have created a ten year drought over the Great Plains and turned off the world's breadbasket with all the dire consequences that would have brought about. The Sylphs washed away the cap and destroyed much equipment and credibility of the USAF scientists.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

Why? Here is the guy who made them.

if its so simple why can't either of you show us the equation or formula on which those spirographs or whatevers are based on?

didn't the fellow i was replying to say it was simple?
no need to dumb it down either as my major in college was mathematics

There is a lot of effort being put out to debunk crop circles

The tools with their boards can only create inferior facsimiles, never mind that it is simply impossible for them to have created ALL of the crop circles that have appeared world wide and throughout history,it is also the height of retardation or perhaps a very crude insult to the intelligence to claim their method is being used elsewhere by other hoaxers.

After all their method was unknown before they revealed it.

An insult to the intelligence indeed, either that or pathological debunking has led some to place the cart before the horse.

As if a couple of A**-Clowns making a VERY CRAPPY and inferior “crop-circle” automatically makes all of them fake

[some which appeared when said A**-Clowns were too young to be out after bedtime!]

And a very expensive and exceedingly well designed website they got too. My, my, wherever did they get the funds?

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

Interesting you should use that image. It comes from this site.
The site discusses the similarites between stalks found in lodged (randomly downed) wheat and crop circles.

The photos in this report were taken in a wheat field south of Beaumont. This instance of lodging occurred during the period of rapid growth when the seed heads were filling out. The farmer, Andre Goudreau, says the crop goes down every year in this field in the same place. With his permission my husband, Mike Arndt, and I took photos and collected some plant and soil samples.

Here's the caption to your image:

Node changes in lodged wheat were typical of the node changes found in crop circle formations. We found bent and elongated nodes as well as many expulsion cavities.

Congratulations. You debunked yourself.

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Well not quite. All that has happened is that the mechanism that causes the known natural flattening has been used to produce the non natural patterns.

Now, so far, attempts by people to reproduce the patterns fail to reproduce the affect on the wheat and yet here is the proof that natural mechanisms can do it.

So the question is who/what is able to produce crop circles using a natural flattening mechanisms and what is that mechanism. This has two solutions:

1. Humans of unknown identity who have discovered the natural flattening method (likely)
2. Aliens. (less likely)

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:18 AM
reply to post by darkbake

The video you posted ( The Oliver's Castle Crop Circle ) is a known Hoax created by John Wabe .

Since this report was written, John Wabe was traced to a Bristol video production company, and caught. He since came clean about the video being a con, and is being prosecuted.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:31 AM
reply to post by The X

Intriguing post, thanks for the effort. It wll be wasted on a few but others including myself are most appreciative.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:39 AM

Originally posted by thebtheb
Well here's something I find REALLY interesting. A group has constructed something called "The Crop Circle Challenge." July 1st, 2012, they are offering 100,000 British pounds to human circle makers to reproduce the crop circle of 2001, "the Galaxy." This is it:

Here are specifics about the challenge: The Crop Circle Challenge

Also a doctor, MD who is offering to add $1000 US to the challenge, HERE

Started July 1st. No one has come forth to take the challenge.
edit on 28-7-2012 by thebtheb because: (no reason given)

I like this.
Only question mark for me is this one:

7. No more than a team of the same five people can work on the making of the crop circle.

Why the restriction on the size of team? Seems a bit arbitrary!?!

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:55 AM
It is quite puzzling how we see this seasonal activity, Aliens or Pranksters...?
You decide.

I really want it to be small-quiet Beings from other worlds or dimensions gliding
silently across the English countryside and with strange powers, leaving enigmatic
messages in the corn.

I would accept that the Devil could appear in the warm evenings as locals enjoyed
the occasional tipple and tourists sat in lawnchairs gazing into the starry night,
and with his prancing Demons -begin to cause the cereal to offer odd-geometry that
befuddles and confounds the humans in the nearby hedgerow.

Maybe the many species that we hope that are out there are sending communique
across the vastness of the cosmos and hoping that we will realise that the neighbours
are merely saying 'hello'

Or... could it be the many residents of this planet who enjoy tricking folk for money?
Is it possible that some folk vandalise farmer's crops and then access websites and
muddy the waters to further their agenda?
Could it be humans with time on their hands around this time of year in the UK -that
contrive to draw visitors to these weird places in Southern England and hopefully
gain much-needed revenue from those who seek an answer to their mundane lives?

No... I'm be cynical, it's aliens... great thread.
edit on 29-7-2012 by A boy in a dress because: Left planks of wood in Edit Room.

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