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Originally posted by princeofpeace
So on ATS its okay to be anti-semetic but NOT anti-muslim or anti-arabic etc? Ok
One perspective, which can broadly be called pro-Israel, is balanced in terms of favouring a two-state solution
The third Left perspective I have called anti-Zionist fundamentalism because it is akin to religious fundamentalism
This view, which is held mainly but no longer exclusively by far Left groups, regards Israel as a racist and colonialist state which has no right to exist
The anti-Zionist fundamentalist discourse quickly decays into openly anti-Jewish rhetoric. Firstly, there is a pathological and obsessive hatred and demonisation of Israel unrelated to the actual actions and reality of that State. These include absurd claims that Israel is the world’s worst human rights abuser, or that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians.
Originally posted by glasshouse
reply to post by Expat888
As I stated earlier, I see a clear distinction between the citizens of Iran and the ruling regime and have not endorsed military action. I'm sure Iran is a beautiful place with beautiful people. I also think it is the home of a violent sect of Mahdiism. Did you read the dissertation I linked to? I would like the opinion of someone that speaks Farsi on this matter. Do you speak Farsi?
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by trysts
I think you should be able to understand the analogy of the home:
I think the term you are referring to is initial aggressor. In that sense, yes, the USA was indeed the initial aggressor. At this point in time, however, Iran has retaliated with their rhetoric and has thus become an aggressor as well. Just as, in your example, Mississippi would become an aggressor by retaliating against the initial New York aggression. Being an aggressor does not mean one is not defending themselves.
The real stumbling block is the dollar pegged to OPEC oil. That agreement worked well for a very long time, but the US's idiotic monetary policies eventually led to Iran's concern over the peg. That resulted in the US overthrowing a democratically-elected government and replacing it with the Shah. That led to the Ayatollah's seizing power, the resulting Iranian hostage crisis and the oil shortage of the 70s, the escalating tensions since, the recent moves by multiple OPEC countries to depeg from the dollar, and their overthrow at the hands of 'rebels'.
Also, I strongly recommend taking a deep breath here. Neither you nor I can change foreign policy of either country. It is what it is, and I can state what I see happening without agreeing with it in principle. I can also take steps to protect me and mine from the resulting carnage if I can see it happening. Other than that, I have no dog in the race for whose going to survive the inevitable encounter..
Iran is not developing a nuclear weapon. That is propaganda.
Naturally-occurring uranium has a U-235 concentration of about 0.7%. If enriched to 3-5%, it becomes suitable for large-scale commercial power production (nuclear power). Past that point, up to 20% enrichment can be used for experimental reactor designs. Anything higher is weapons-grade. I have seen enough reports of enrichment in the range of 30% and a little higher in Iran to believe them, and with enrichment so expensive and time-consuming, why would anyone enrich to that point (and continue trying to enrich past it) unless they planned on making weapons?
It is what the Zionists want you to think, that someone who is against Zionism is against Jews period.
The "initial aggressor" remains the sole aggressor in this case, since Iran's rhetoric is only in reaction to real, physical aggression on the part of the U.S.
Sitting there and speculating upon the amount of enrichment necessary to build a nuclear bomb is not the issue behind the threats and sanctions, and even if it were, Iran has the right to enrich uranium for any purpose they wish.