Does billboard comparing Obama to alleged shooter go too far?, page 2


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reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 09:21 AM by KeliOnyx
reply to post by beezzer


Beez I have to say I am impressed with your complete and total reasonable view on this. It is disingenuous to attack him on this. Pro-war or anti-war the thing that has to be realized is Obama didn't start these wars, now many Americans just want us out of there yesterday but the unfortunate reality is that would have been impossible to do. First just cutting and running would have hurt the military's moral. You want to give them an exit that doesn't leave a bad taste in their mouth. Second just cutting and running would have destabilized the whole region impacting the entire world's economy. These are very much the same reasons the first Gulf War was ended when it was. And even then the most common sentiment of Americans was that we should have Invaded and ended Iraq then. In terms of foreign policy this President has done a fairly good job.

The whole Peace Prize thing was a joke when it happened and remains a joke to this day. But it was the prize committee that awarded it so the joke is really on them.



reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 09:43 AM by trysts
Originally posted by KeliOnyx
reply to post by beezzer


Beez I have to say I am impressed with your complete and total reasonable view on this. It is disingenuous to attack him on this. Pro-war or anti-war the thing that has to be realized is Obama didn't start these wars, now many Americans just want us out of there yesterday but the unfortunate reality is that would have been impossible to do. First just cutting and running would have hurt the military's moral. You want to give them an exit that doesn't leave a bad taste in their mouth. Second just cutting and running would have destabilized the whole region impacting the entire world's economy. .


Your two reasons for having the U.S. remain in Afghanistan, for instance, occupying that country for no good reason, and murdering thousands of people, is that leaving would "destabilize" the country?! The country is destabilized. That's what invasion and murder does. It destabilizes. Your other reason was so profoundly absurd that you must have smashed your head into a TV set before you came up with it: If the U.S. leaves Afghanistan, then the moral of the invading army, will be "hurt"!?!?
So what?! They are the invading forces! Unbelievable...


reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 09:48 AM by beezzer
reply to post by KeliOnyx


What I stated above, there are too many legitamate avenues to attack him on.

Economy.
foreign policy.
Unemployment.
Lack of transparency.

This?

Nope.


reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 09:54 AM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by beezzer


Being a war monger isn't a good thing to use against somebody in an election? To be fair the other candidate is just as bad a war monger and both sides seem to have no problem with extending America's Imperial Army into whatever country they desire granted, but still.

LIke I said, it's a big over exagerated, but it's certainly not too far off the logic train to be incorrect.

This IS mind you a dig at his foreign policy.

~Tenth
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reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 10:00 AM by beezzer
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by beezzer


Being a war monger isn't a good thing to use against somebody in an election? To be fair the other candidate is just as bad a war monger and both sides seem to have no problem with extending America's Imperial Army into whatever country they desire granted, but still.

LIke I said, it's a big over exagerated, but it's certainly not too far off the logic train to be incorrect.

This IS mind you a dig at his foreign policy.

~Tenth
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But to compare his foreign policy to a nutweasel?

Put Stalin, Pol Pot on there, it'd be more relevent and factual.


reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 10:07 AM by beezzer
reply to post by VforVendettea
*sheesh*

I can't believe so many find the comparrison applicable!

I'm not going to defend Obama, but I feel the comparrison is off all the same.


reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 10:10 AM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by beezzer


Ahh but it would not be as effective a marketing tool if you use something that brings up emotions from 50 years ago, as opposed to 8 minutes



reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 10:15 AM by beezzer
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by beezzer


Ahh but it would not be as effective a marketing tool if you use something that brings up emotions from 50 years ago, as opposed to 8 minutes


As a conservative, I'm all for Obama getting ousted November 6.

This cheap pandering to emotions cheapens an already cheap and tacky profession. I think it is beneath conservatives, is all.


reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 10:22 AM by FlyersFan
reply to post by tothetenthpower

I agree with this post.

Technically the billboard got it right ... and I LUV the Nobel Peace Prize jab.
Freedom of speech and it isn't false .. so it should be allowed.
At the same time it's in bad taste. It's insensitive to the dead and wounded and grieving.
I don't know how the victims would feel being used as a political football like that.


reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 11:06 AM by Expat888
Originally posted by KeliOnyx
reply to post by beezzer


Beez I have to say I am impressed with your complete and total reasonable view on this. It is disingenuous to attack him on this. Pro-war or anti-war the thing that has to be realized is Obama didn't start these wars, now many Americans just want us out of there yesterday but the unfortunate reality is that would have been impossible to do. First just cutting and running would have hurt the military's moral. You want to give them an exit that doesn't leave a bad taste in their mouth. Second just cutting and running would have destabilized the whole region impacting the entire world's economy. These are very much the same reasons the first Gulf War was ended when it was. And even then the most common sentiment of Americans was that we should have Invaded and ended Iraq then. In terms of foreign policy this President has done a fairly good job.

The whole Peace Prize thing was a joke when it happened and remains a joke to this day. But it was the prize committee that awarded it so the joke is really on them.

he may not have started them ... but he damn sure has the power to end them ... instead he expanded them murduring thousands more with no end in site to the mass murder for profit by the u.s ... no amount of scrubbing will get the blood off obamas hands ...


reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 11:10 AM by elitegamer23
reply to post by beezzer


this billboard just shows the ignorance of america anymore.

sometimes i think its a shame the usa is going in the gutter, other times i think its well deserved.

i dont care if you hate obama, if you applaud this you have problems.


reply posted on 28-7-2012 @ 11:22 AM by Revealation
Originally posted by beezzer


Never thought I'd see the day that I'd be saying, "Yes, this is too much"



Then it goes to show you are too far gone my friend. The system and society has literally melted your brain to mush far beyond the point of coming back from the conditioning and brainwashing you have been led astray to believe was TRUTH.

When one thinks that comparing a man who is the (COMMANDER in CHIEF) of the worlds strongest military...the boss who gives the order to go to war and knows there will be horriffic deaths and crimes committed, hundreds maybe thousands of innocent men women and children murdered (as collateral damage) on illegal wars they wage for the sake of power, greed and control....

but you think "it's too much?"

WOW....is all i can say.

If holmes is the guy who did it..then he's a monster who gets what he deserves....but the administrations now and everyone before are all criminals manipulating their own selfmade and empowering laws who should all be held accountable for treason to say the least.....if you can't see how they are waaayyyy worse than this guy, and there's many more like you...then it's no wonder this country is done for.

Is it because of his big smile? please tell me

Sheep led to the slaughter we are.

Also why would anyone want to get obama on any of his other policies? it's the equivelent saying charge holmes with assault. A murderer is a murderer no matter how they commit their atrocity.
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