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Originally posted by here4awhile
the U.S. is not the U.N...they need to mind their own business and leave our country to US...
Originally posted by stumason
Originally posted by here4awhile
the U.S. is not the U.N...they need to mind their own business and leave our country to US...
Oh dear lord, another anti-UN American, what an ironic surprise...
The UN is an American invention post-WW2. In fact, the US positively insisted on it in the run up to Victory. They insisted on the HQ being in NY and, for a while, funded it entirely. Let's also not forget the permanent UNSC seat you have, with veto power.
If you have such an issue with the UN, you only have yourselves to blame for bloody well inventing it.
"The U.N. is a global-leftist organization that uses multilateral treaties like the ATT to enforce their will upon all humankind. It's the ultimate power play. To them, the U.S. Constitution and the sovereign rights of American citizens are irrelevant. If they have their way, they will create a vast new international bureaucracy to document, regulate, track, supervise, inspect and maintain surveillance over every firearm ever made. Such a regime ought to be completely unacceptable to every American."
United States 22.00 362.7
Japan 19.47 279.6
Germany 8.66 124.4
United Kingdom 6.13 88.0
France 6.03 86.6
Italy 4.89 70.2
Canada 2.81 40.4
Spain 2.52 36.2
China 2.05 29.5
Mexico 1.88 27.0
Originally posted by stumason
Just pointing out the idiocy of Americans hating on the UN, when it was they who pushed hard for it's creation, which subsequently led to the disintegration of the British Empire, which is what the US wanted all along so as to gain access to those markets....
Originally posted by stumason
And I don't really think the US has baulked at this because of domestic, pro-gun pressure, but rather a desire to protect its $55 billion a year Arms industry. The pro-gun lobby are useful scapegoat to blame it on.
the scapegoat mechanism is the origin of sacrifice and the foundation of human culture, and religion was necessary in human evolution to control the violence that can come from mimetic rivalry;
Originally posted by Majic
As it happens, not only do many Americans despise the UN and what it stands for, but a vast majority of Americans also oppose slavery and think it was morally reprehensible. Is that "idiocy" too?
Originally posted by Majic
By your own brand of logic, it would be "idiocy" for you to oppose the past actions of your own government. That means we can hold you personally responsible for the atrocities of the Raj, the Opium Wars, the colonization and exploitation of hundreds of millions of people, innumerable wars of conquest and membership in the EU and UN, which is stridently opposed by many Britons.
Originally posted by Majic
Who, of course, are not entitled to do so if the line of thought you are expressing here is to be faithfully followed.
Originally posted by Majic
Does that really make sense to you? Are you really willing to own that sort of reasoning in a public forum?
Originally posted by Majic
The only "idiocy" on display here is the notion that in a nation of over 300 million people, individual liberty and a willingness to disagree with one's own government is somehow "idiocy". :shk:
Originally posted by Majic
As it happens, not only do many Americans despise the UN and what it stands for, but a vast majority of Americans also oppose slavery and think it was morally reprehensible. Is that "idiocy" too?
Originally posted by here4awhile
the U.S. is not the U.N...they need to mind their own business and leave our country to US...
Originally posted by stumason
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Now, many states already require gun registration so this particular argument I find confusing.
Originally posted by stumason
Originally posted by here4awhile
the U.S. is not the U.N...they need to mind their own business and leave our country to US...
Oh dear lord, another anti-UN American, what an ironic surprise...
The UN is an American invention post-WW2. In fact, the US positively insisted on it in the run up to Victory. They insisted on the HQ being in NY and, for a while, funded it entirely. Let's also not forget the permanent UNSC seat you have, with veto power.
If you have such an issue with the UN, you only have yourselves to blame for bloody well inventing it.