I think, with all things considered, I'm still
confused about the flaw in logic that mainstream Christianity stands behind. There is an
ultimate paradox that I see Christians paint themselves into a corner with virtually every time the subject of homosexuality comes up. In this
context, I use term "Christian" as people who hold this position, not the reasonable ones.
So here's where I'm confused. The following is a paraphrase of just about every debate I hear on the subject:
Basic Argument #1 -
(Mainstream Christian = "MC" and Marriage Equality proponent = "ME"
MC: Gays should not be allowed to marry.
MC: God says so. In Leviticus.
ME: But next to those verses in Leviticus, God also says it's okay to sell slaves and stone children who talk back.
MC: Yeah, but Jesus fulfilled all of those laws so we don't need to follow the Old Testament.
ME: But... you just cited the Old Testament to defend your suppression of gay rights...
MC: Homos are gross.
Ok, that is where I get stuck in their paradox. Either the OT is something to be followed or it is not. Which is it?
Basic Argument #2 -
MC: Gays should not be allowed to get married.
MC: Because it will redefine marriage and infringe on my religion.
ME: But marriage wasn't invented by God... it predates Christianity and even Judaism.
MC: But God defined it as it is now.
ME: No, he didn't. Marriage has always been a bond between two people and people like to sometimes incorporate their religion into their ceremonies.
People were getting married for at least
as far back as Hammurabi's code.
MC: But if gays can get married, it will infringe on my religion.
Ok... I think this one is self-explanatory. Many seem to be under the illusion that "marriage" did not exist until the bible said so. This is simply
not even close to true. Marriage and religion are completely independent of each other.
So, in short, what I would like to have explained to me by a person holding the position of inequality based on the bible is this:
- Which testament is right? If your intolerance comes from the OT, then why do you dismiss the rest of it?
- How will two dudes or chicks getting married possibly affect your faith? Nobody is asking you to make your priests and ministers to marry gay folks
in your church. You do not hold the monopoly on marriage and, believe it or not, you don't have to have a "christian" wedding in order to get
married. In fact, your church really has nothing to do with officiating even your own marriages. It's a state contract. Called MARRIAGE. Not
Now I'm begging you to not turn this into the average ATS "homophobe vs reasonable person" debate. I seriously want logical
answers to my two
edit on 27-7-2012 by Cuervo because: Coffee...