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posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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So Let me start by saying that normally I view the "conspiracy" angle of this site as an intellectual exercise. I love taking ideas and running with it, no matter how "absurd" the notion, I also love to debate (nice way of saying argue)

I am always willing to keep an open mind on the subjects we discuss, and its sometimes better to imagine there is conspiracy, when really everything is simple human greed.

Take for example the situation in the US, I think we are in the position we are in due to the lobbying that goes on, you pay someone money of course they are going to do what you want.

The more I watch the election coverage the more I think it simply doesn't matter who we vote for MITT or OBAMA, the ends will be the same.

So awhile back I started a website, simple premiss, That we should not allow any career politicians in office, Expounding on strict term limits and reigning in special interest lobbying.

Here is the funny thing, When I put the site in my Tag...

It immediately started to receive DNS attacks, So often that I got into heated arguments with the Hosting service, in order to keep it up.

The next thing that happened was my hosting service told me they where getting "informal" inquiries about my site, the Hosting service was kinda vague about what that meant.

I checked for awhile who was visiting the site when it had been up before the attacks began, some of the stand out ip's where from several nations outside the US (which i thought was weird)

Including.

Tehran University, some IP from a University in China, and several from the east cost of the US.

The final straw was the Site it self got hacked and everything that was on there was erased.

I am in the process of getting it re-hosted and put back up, the only thing is I am a little paranoid now about doing so.

Was it just someone messing with me? or was it something more?

This all started though once I mentioned the Site in my tag here on ATS.

Now Ive got the hosting back after the previous host dropped me, but I don't know if I should even bother putting it back up.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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I think that you should proceed with the new website with your new host. I assume it is going to be about the same subject matter. If on this new website; you still have the same problems you had in the past; then you will know for sure that someone wants you to stop; and that someone is most likely government related.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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I see it as one of two things. Well, upon further thinking…

Somebody either sees you as a threat to their agenda, and watch out for that as all sorts of things can be spun out of thin air to make you seem like one.

Or there are people who see your site as a means to scam others.

Actually, I see it as a bit of both. Lots of @$$holes in the world as my Dad used to tell me.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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The IP's on the east coast where from Langley Virginia, and DC, when I saw those I stopped fighting them for keeping it up.

And when I started I only had west coast IP's hitting it as I was handing out the address to all my friends.
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posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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Langley Virginia is a hacker hub for government-sponsored cyber crooks. I have a buddy who used to be in CIA, as a hacker, and although he was based in NY, he knows there's a nest down there. You've got some CIA bugs crawling up your crack, bro. That means you're doing something right.


Whatever you do, don't let that website die.
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posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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Langley Virginia is a hacker hub for government-sponsored cyber crooks. I have a buddy who used to be in CIA, as a hacker, and although he was based in NY, he knows there's a nest down there. You've got some CIA bugs crawling up your crack, bro. That means you're doing something right. Whatever you do, don't let that website die.


Yea the laptop I used to make the site was also virus ed, simple reformat though, But it served to kill all my back ups, I just got the hosting back...

Ill be working on what Ill put on it later...

Its seriously made me consider using TOR to access this site though.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by benrl
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The IP's on the east coast where from Langley Virginia, and DC, when I saw those I stopped fighting them for keeping it up.

And when I started I only had west coast IP's hitting it as I was handing out the address to all my friends.
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The locations of those IP addresses are very interesting; most likely someone official within the government was looking in on you.

A few months ago I wrote about a dream I had; in the dream were Chinese; Russian and Middle Eastern men all together on a ship...not 5 or 10 minutes after I posted that dream; my virus protection service notified me that someone was trying to hack into my system; but they were blocked. I looked up their IP addresses and (yes-you guessed it!) the ip addresses originated from Russia, China and the Middle East.

I am wondering...how they tracked me so soon.

I do know (for sure) from that experience that we are all being looked in on; from time to time.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Use a sevrer based through Sweden or something similar. Also, you should install a one-way virus that will trace the hacking back to the source and crash their servers.

Fight fire with fire.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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Use a sevrer based through Sweden or something similar. Also, you should install a one-way virus that will trace the hacking back to the source and crash their servers. Fight fire with fire.


My brother is in IT security is helping me with all of this now, He was intrigued by the whole thing...



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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The fact that the hackers didn't cover their tracks tells me that they wanted you to know who was doing it; a little intimidation...



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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could you u2u me that link, sounds like a good thing to have

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posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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The fact that the hackers didn't cover their tracks tells me that they wanted you to know who was doing it; a little intimidation...


that was kinda my though, but still I could spoof my IP to look like that as well, so it could be just someone messing with me and nothing more...

But still a bit concerning.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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TextSomebody either sees you as a threat to their agenda, and


Tdawg.. that and your other thread made me make a disturbing connection...



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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I hear you. These days I only have a blog, and I keep it privatized. I have to invite visitors in other words. I had a Ministry website for awhile, and my problem was with spam comments; most of them had links to porn sites...


I had to moderate/approve the comments to deal with it. When I look at the comments on a lot of the sites I visit, all I see is disrespect and bad-mouthing. How is this beneficial to a site, and why do these sites put up with it?



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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Out of curiosity, are you using a CMS (content management system) such as Wordpress or Joomla? They have internal databases which can be backed up very easily. I used to do the "build your own" kinda thing with a web editor, but it's too easy to lose everything, and a pain to change things.

CMS's can be set up on most hosts. I used a Wordpress CMS on my godaddy account, and later on a Lime Domains account. Most of the hosts these days have a one-click installation, which is fully automated except the personal stuff like password, database name, etc.

Something I had forgotten about is that when you aren't logged into your account here on ATS, your signature links aren't visible. If your signature was drawing all the attention, that would mean the attacks could be coming form ATS members, and that's troubling to say the least. Expected perhaps, but troubling. Let's hope that the timing is coincidental...

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posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Wordpress


According to my brother that was probably the area of vulnerability on the site.

He wants to script something of his own.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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Perhaps. I've never had a controversial site, so I've never been a target for anything other than porn links...


Good luck with your revised site, I'll talk to you later...

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