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Medical science has yet to establish if the drug affects our autonomy, but it is known that scopolamine affects memory and makes people more passive. Neuroscientist Renate Thienel, from the University of Newcastle in Australia, has studied its effects on problem-solving and memory tasks during brain scans. He notes that "scopolamine has a selective effect on memory, although other mental functions, such as planning and information manipulation, are unaffected". This suggests victims remain cognitively nimble but unable to retain information.
r that he had completed a sizeable amount of rather demanding paperwork earlier in the workday, with no recollection of even being delegated this task
sometimes against themselves such as assisting in a robbery or their own murder. While the crimes may be caught by video tape and look like the person committing the crime is using free will, they are actually being controlled to commit the crime, and will have no memory of it afterward.
Although scopolamine is sometimes portrayed in the media as a dangerous drug, its anticholinergic properties give it some legitimate medical applications in minute doses. An example is the treatment of motion sickness by use of a transdermal patch.[4]
Scopolamine has been used in the past to treat addiction to drugs such as heroin and coc aine. The patient was given frequent doses of scopolamine until they were delirious. This treatment was maintained for 2 to 3 days after which they were treated with pilocarpine. After recovering from this they were said to have lost the acute craving to the drug to which they were addicted
Originally posted by RealSpoke
This just sounds like a bunch of hype and over exaggerating. If you take massive amounts of a lot of anti-chlorgenics you become delirious. Benadryl and Dramamine would seem to have the same type of effects (it seems) if taken at extreme doses.
It has/had some legit medical uses as well
Although scopolamine is sometimes portrayed in the media as a dangerous drug, its anticholinergic properties give it some legitimate medical applications in minute doses. An example is the treatment of motion sickness by use of a transdermal patch.[4]
Scopolamine has been used in the past to treat addiction to drugs such as heroin and coc aine. The patient was given frequent doses of scopolamine until they were delirious. This treatment was maintained for 2 to 3 days after which they were treated with pilocarpine. After recovering from this they were said to have lost the acute craving to the drug to which they were addicted
en.wikipedia.org...edit on 26-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RealSpoke
This just sounds like a bunch of hype and over exaggerating. If you take massive amounts of a lot of anti-chlorgenics you become delirious. Benadryl and Dramamine would seem to have the same type of effects if taken at extreme doses.
It has/had some legit medical uses as well
Although scopolamine is sometimes portrayed in the media as a dangerous drug, its anticholinergic properties give it some legitimate medical applications in minute doses. An example is the treatment of motion sickness by use of a transdermal patch.[4]
Scopolamine has been used in the past to treat addiction to drugs such as heroin and coc aine. The patient was given frequent doses of scopolamine until they were delirious. This treatment was maintained for 2 to 3 days after which they were treated with pilocarpine. After recovering from this they were said to have lost the acute craving to the drug to which they were addicted
en.wikipedia.org...edit on 26-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)edit on 26-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RealSpoke
This just sounds like a bunch of hype and over exaggerating. If you take massive amounts of a lot of anti-chlorgenics you become delirious. Benadryl and Dramamine would seem to have the same type of effects if taken at extreme doses.
It has/had some legit medical uses as well
Although scopolamine is sometimes portrayed in the media as a dangerous drug, its anticholinergic properties give it some legitimate medical applications in minute doses. An example is the treatment of motion sickness by use of a transdermal patch.[4]
Scopolamine has been used in the past to treat addiction to drugs such as heroin and coc aine. The patient was given frequent doses of scopolamine until they were delirious. This treatment was maintained for 2 to 3 days after which they were treated with pilocarpine. After recovering from this they were said to have lost the acute craving to the drug to which they were addicted
en.wikipedia.org...edit on 26-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)edit on 26-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Spruk
Originally posted by RealSpoke
This just sounds like a bunch of hype and over exaggerating. If you take massive amounts of a lot of anti-chlorgenics you become delirious. Benadryl and Dramamine would seem to have the same type of effects if taken at extreme doses.
It has/had some legit medical uses as well
Although scopolamine is sometimes portrayed in the media as a dangerous drug, its anticholinergic properties give it some legitimate medical applications in minute doses. An example is the treatment of motion sickness by use of a transdermal patch.[4]
Scopolamine has been used in the past to treat addiction to drugs such as heroin and coc aine. The patient was given frequent doses of scopolamine until they were delirious. This treatment was maintained for 2 to 3 days after which they were treated with pilocarpine. After recovering from this they were said to have lost the acute craving to the drug to which they were addicted
en.wikipedia.org...edit on 26-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)edit on 26-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
Correct, it appears excessive use of this drug in vast doses (we are talking grams not milligrams) will result in potential poisioning, which i can assure you, will not cause you to turn into a zombie, but most likely render you unconcious, with some pretty horrific side effects, not excluding psychosis.
Sure its something to avoid, however its unlikely you will be zombified.
What freaks me out most about the "blowing it into someone's face" thing is that a few months ago I had a dream that my mother and I were driving around a mall parking lot and a guy motioned us to stop and talk to him and he sprayed something into our faces...
Originally posted by cassiper
What freaks me out most about the "blowing it into someone's face" thing is that a few months ago I had a dream that my mother and I were driving around a mall parking lot and a guy motioned us to stop and talk to him and he sprayed something into our faces...
I originally posted this in the "James Holmes claiming amnesia" thread. I didn't know about the aerosol thing then... and I hadn't even heard of Scopolamine back then. I'm very freaked out knowing that this drug is out there. Is it a natural occurring substance or is it a creation of big money pharma?
Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy
It is in the same family of drugs as benadryl, has the same medicinal uses, and similar negative side effects like delirium and hallucinations. To say that it is nothing like over the counter drugs is just not true. The media chooses to hype certain drugs.edit on 26-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mr10k
This could be put into water at low dosages to control an entire population without them even realizing they are being controlled
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by mr10k
This could be put into water at low dosages to control an entire population without them even realizing they are being controlled
At low doses, they just wont get airsick.
Originally posted by mr10k
Far from unlikely. Like I said before, minute doses of most drugs are used in modern science, and of course, high dosage of anything will kill you. But just the right amount and you would be in a docile state. It isn't something that would be immediate, and it would take some time for the effect to take place, but the zombified state is no child's play.
Here I even provided a link detailing someone's exposure to this drug at 7 mg and it even explains what happens to that person: www.erowid.org...
The drug does not shut down the specific parts of your brain that control self-control like the amygdala or the prefrontal. It stops your ability to reason turning you into a slaveedit on 26-7-2012 by mr10k because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mr10k
4mg is what I meant when I said low.
New York City drinking water is world-renowned for its quality. Each day, more than 1 billion gallons of fresh, clean water is delivered from large upstate reservoirs—some more than 125 miles from the City—to the taps of nine million customers...
Originally posted by mr10k
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by mr10k
This could be put into water at low dosages to control an entire population without them even realizing they are being controlled
At low doses, they just wont get airsick.
4mg is what I meant when I said low.