Paralyzed Cop Suing Makers Of Glocks after His 3 yr Old Son Shoots Him, page 1

Cop Sues Glocks

California’s Second District Court of Appeal said on Tuesday that a paralyzed Los Angeles police officer, who was shot by his 3-year-old son, could move forward with his lawsuit again gun manufacturer Glock.

Enrique Chavez’s lawsuit claimed that the Glock 21 had a light trigger and lacked a grip saftey, both of which could have prevented the shooting.

In 2006, Chavez’s son accidentally shot him in the back after the off-duty officer forgot that he had left the loaded .45-caliber pistol under the front seat of this Ford Ranger. The child was not in a safety seat at the time.

This is the idiot's fault, not the maker's of the glock, but it's going to bring in more "we need more gun control" people out of the woodwork. Truthfully I don't think gun control would have helped this situation. I think a cop with brains would have. A child in a safety seat. A gun with a gun lock, or in a gun safe. Glock didn't paralyze the cop, the cop paralyzed the cop with his own negligence, it's just he wants someone to blame for it.

reply to post by happyhomemaker29

Enrique Chavez’s lawsuit claimed that the Glock 21 had a light trigger and lacked a grip saftey, both of which could have prevented the shooting.

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Trigger safety locks and not "forgetting" where your firearm is are two other ways this could have been averted as well.

Sorry Enrique....

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I do believe this was this officers fault. Plain and Simple, you do have a responsibility when you own and a gun AND when you have a 3 year old child around that gun. There is a safety on every glock, and much safer places to put it then in arms length of your 3 year old. His kid should have been in a car seat, not the front seat, and HE should have been more careful with his weapon, period. In my opinion, this is this mans fault and he has no right to sue over HIS poor judgment.

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You said it- perfectly! To sue a gun company over his carelessness would just be silly.

I'll take the hate but they have a very valid point on the suit for merit. I just think the Cop got off on what would have had any normal shmuck dealing with some good time in prison that way. Figures...

The Glocks are dangerous though. no question in my mind and I'll say why I say that vs. what IS NOT dangerous and how little a difference it takes.

Here is the Glock-21. For all those who don't shoot, that little angle piece on the trigger is the Glock's safety. When that moves back in line in the trigger, it can all be pulled. I've never looked at a glock where that trigger safety wasn't very lose..and about all the good I think it does is prevent a misfire from a falling gun onto a hard surface.




This is what that kind of configuration leads to:

Pilot accidentally discharges gun due to lock

and if anyone wants a laugh, a cringe or just something to consider if you're in direct line to a cockpit wall as they handle this little accident waiting for an excuse.(The holster this time, not the gun)



Now how easy would it be to make it safe? Enormous retooling? Designs to make all kinds of problems? Hmmm

Here is the Springfield XD class.



Now you'll notice this also has that stupid little nubby thing on the trigger....they really are worthless in my opinion. However, the safety that matters and the one that little 3 year old hand WOULD NEVER have properly engages AND reached to pull the trigger at the same time is the bar extruding from the rear of the grip or backstrap. For what it matters, the model sitting in my safe is the Springfield XD-9 Service model which is about the same as what is pictured. Also, for what it matters, it's a surplus Police Duty weapon from the local city. So these being issued or allowed isn't unheard of....Glock gives Police Departments a better deal so...Glock it is for many.

A final note on that grip safety. I have been red faced and embarrassed to go clickity-click on a shooting lane at the worst possible moment...a couple times because these safeties are THAT touchy. They have to be ALL the way in. Just wiggle your hand from a full, straight and solid grip...it's not firing and the slide isn't moving. He ought to sue the LAPD for choosing the Glocks.

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clearly this was user error..

this should be dismissed immediately..

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Only in America are people so stupid that they would sue because of being a irresponsible retard.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I'll take the hate but they have a very valid point on the suit for merit. I just think the Cop got off on what would have had any normal shmuck dealing with some good time in prison that way. Figures...

The Glocks are dangerous though. no question in my mind and I'll say why I say that vs. what IS NOT dangerous and how little a difference it takes.

Here is the Glock-21. For all those who don't shoot, that little angle piece on the trigger is the Glock's safety. When that moves back in line in the trigger, it can all be pulled. I've never looked at a glock where that trigger safety wasn't very lose..and about all the good I think it does is prevent a misfire from a falling gun onto a hard surface.




This is what that kind of configuration leads to:

Pilot accidentally discharges gun due to lock

and if anyone wants a laugh, a cringe or just something to consider if you're in direct line to a cockpit wall as they handle this little accident waiting for an excuse.(The holster this time, not the gun)



Now how easy would it be to make it safe? Enormous retooling? Designs to make all kinds of problems? Hmmm

Here is the Springfield XD class.



Now you'll notice this also has that stupid little nubby thing on the trigger....they really are worthless in my opinion. However, the safety that matters and the one that little 3 year old hand WOULD NEVER have properly engages AND reached to pull the trigger at the same time is the bar extruding from the rear of the grip or backstrap. For what it matters, the model sitting in my safe is the Springfield XD-9 Service model which is about the same as what is pictured. Also, for what it matters, it's a surplus Police Duty weapon from the local city. So these being issued or allowed isn't unheard of....Glock gives Police Departments a better deal so...Glock it is for many.

A final note on that grip safety. I have been red faced and embarrassed to go clickity-click on a shooting lane at the worst possible moment...a couple times because these safeties are THAT touchy. They have to be ALL the way in. Just wiggle your hand from a full, straight and solid grip...it's not firing and the slide isn't moving. He ought to sue the LAPD for choosing the Glocks.

edit on 26-7-2012 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)

Maybe I can give it to you on the safety, but to still have it near a young child, forgetting it was even in the car in the first place, not placing the child in the safety seat. As a cop, how many tickets do you write over that? The child gets to the gun you never put away properly, so you sue the people who made the gun, not yourself because you never put it away. In this society, makes perfect sense to me.

Originally posted by Katharos62191
reply to post by happyhomemaker29

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I do believe this was this officers fault. Plain and Simple, you do have a responsibility when you own and a gun AND when you have a 3 year old child around that gun. There is a safety on every glock, and much safer places to put it then in arms length of your 3 year old. His kid should have been in a car seat, not the front seat, and HE should have been more careful with his weapon, period. In my opinion, this is this mans fault and he has no right to sue over HIS poor judgment.

Helloooooo any body home take care of your weapon jerk...That's what a trigger lock is for. Where the hell did this cop get his training...Mexico! Geeeez!

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