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A possible reason why ufo disclosure is been suppressed .

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posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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Ya know, mankind has been inventing free energy for decades....problem is the Gov has keys to the pattent office and can declare any such tech a national security issue and steal it out right as they threaten the creator with bodily harm.




posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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My personal opinion on disclosure is that, similar to what Gortex put on the previous page- it would be difficult for the governments to turn around after 60, 70 or maybe more years of being aware of flying saucers in their airspace, but no knowledge of who they were or what they wanted, and say to the people "yes, this is the case- we used to try to intercept them, as did the Russians, but they just made us look stupid and we lost alot of aircraft- they enter and leave our airspace at will, and we cant stop them- no idea who they are or where they come from, or what their agenda might be- oh, and they might be abducting people and animals- just thought you would like to know!"

Can you imagine the reaction?

Also, if I was an alien with the above mentioned abilities, what would I have to gain from meeting the dangerous, gun loving man-apes that kill and torture their own kind? After all, what would we do? Probably either try and kill them or capture them and do experiments on them- the last thing we would do would be extend the hand of friendship- no, I think I will keep safely hidden and carry on observing.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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The fact that some of the UFOs are real and interplanetary is not really suppressed any more, since many people from the government have admitted it and there are a lot of formerly classified documents from all over the world that indicate this is true.

All I had to do was read Gen. Twining's secret memo from 1947 and I knew it was true.

The big question among people who study this subject seriously is whether the governments have been trying to conceal the fact that they don't know much about the aliens and their intentions, or whether they know TOO much, such as the possibility that they are unfriendly. To my mind, that's actually the strongest possibility, that they may have evidence that they are not friendly, or at least some of them aren't, and they have been trying to think up defensive measures against them.



posted on Aug, 6 2012 @ 08:06 AM
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Governments will never directly annouce to public ufos exist because once they do that it becomes a new religion rivalling other main stream religions.
Some people will start making shrines to the sky. Some will be spooked. Some will start arming themselves for potential confrontation with Ets.
It would simpy be to much of distraction for the human race, which isnt good for business or the economy. Thats it really.
Sure technology is another aspect of it, but we are getting theEt techology slowly fed to us. The free energy wil be rolled out once they work away to stick a meter on it.



posted on Aug, 6 2012 @ 08:19 AM
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If there was some type of free energy and replicating device that would allow each one of us to travel around the universe freely and independently I don't think we would ever see it while we are controlled by greedy war mongering slave masters that need us here to do their dirty work while they live the life of luxury.

How would they track us and tax us and make sure we ain't breaking the speed limit as we drive past saturn?



posted on Aug, 6 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by ThePeopleParty
If there was some type of free energy and replicating device that would allow each one of us to travel around the universe freely and independently I don't think we would ever see it while we are controlled by greedy war mongering slave masters that need us here to do their dirty work while they live the life of luxury.

How would they track us and tax us and make sure we ain't breaking the speed limit as we drive past saturn?


But again, as I stated before, if that technology is being hidden from us (big IF), then the aliens who have the technology are just as complicit in hiding it from the world as the "Big Bad Governments". If aliens are visiting us (another big IF), then those aliens could very, very easily prove to the world beyond a doubt that they existedk, and show us their technology.

So if these aliens really are visiting, don't simply blame the governments for covering it up -- those aliens would need to share that blame, also.



posted on Aug, 6 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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I believe...that the main reason why full other-worlder UFO disclosure is being repressed --- is the fact that NASA reaps billions of taxpayers dollars in order to probe other planets, such as Mars, in the quest for evidence of past or present biological life. If the secret govenment UFO documents were released to the public --- showing proof of other-worlder visitations on our planet --- would be a refute of NASA's claim that we have to prove the existence of past or present biological life, when in fact --- that ET biological life --- has already been proven by past other-worlder starship visitation,s here on Earth.

Meanwhile...NASA, and the big corporate tycoons who are involved in it --- are laughing all the way to the bank.
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posted on Aug, 6 2012 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by krs678
hi there atm readers
I have a thought on why the presence of ufos is been suppressed ,could it be the people behind the government, the ones who fund the election campaigns ,the same ones who own the banks,power companies and oil refineries?
The reason i think is to suppress a free energy propulsion system which would make deep space travel more feasible and could be adapted to create power without the massive overheads or profits, making "them" redundant
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That would be incredibly short sighted, as the profits from space mining, colonization and exploration(think of all the new military spending to "Protect Humanity"!). Make no mistake about it, if they managed to create a high yield energy system, there is no way it would ever be free.

1) It would probably be too dangerous for everyone to have(think like nuke plants)
2) The cost of maintenance.

They would make their money in other way's, encourage energy consumption(if price is fixed low make money via increasing unit sales instead of increasing the value of the unit).

My guess is they don't really have it figured out to the point they would like, that or they are transitioning us in a more organic/stream-less way. Because at this point they are treading on thin ice. If they where to come out with this technology today, tomorrow every oil company would go belly up. The day there after, every gas station would run dry.

The only way to prevent that, would be for the government to step in and nationalize, which is what these individuals would want to avoid if they wanted to make a killing off of this technology at a later date. So they have to move things slowly.

This is a highly hypothetical, pulling BS out of thin air type opinion on the matter though.



posted on Aug, 6 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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I feel there are various reasons as to why UFO information is kept secret. One main reason is public fear of an outer world threat taking over. In connection to outer world threat, governments want to keep control of it's citizens. Then there's always the theory of governments losing people to alien influence. In this day and time, people are influenced heavily by material things that are essential to them. For example, if a group of extra-terrestrial beings came down and begin curing every cancer effected person, our governments could easily lose control of the mass population. Or if large population of ET's came down and begin feeding homeless citizens in major cities and curing them of drug addiction, governments would easily lose authority over it's mass population. Everyone would want to join the ET's. But there is a catch.

Little do we know, some ET groups may have darker agendas. We've heard this theory before. Though they may seem powerful and giving, they credibility in other alien societies may be just as sleezy as political lobbyist are in our society. There are various things that people have to consider before greeting these beings that pilot these UFO's.

But here's another theory. For those who have seen STARGATE SG-1, you'll understand this. Could people inside these UFO's be normal explorers like Jack O'Neill, Samantha Carter, Teal'c and Dr. Daniel Jackson? Anyone remember the episode where they went to that planet and were treated with hostile manor by the humans? Their reason for the hostile treatment, was due to the planet's religious beliefs. They all believed that humans originated from the planet that they were on. But Jack O'Neill and Samantha Carter were trying to tell them that humanoid life forms can be found on many other planets. Take time to consider that our planets rulers could be doing the same things to the people they find inside these downed UFO spacecraft.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 04:17 AM
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Basically a cost benefit analysis was done by the goverment mabey about 60 years ago which included input from Religous leaders, Business Tycoons,, Miltary and Government. Overall this group was probably not tthat large possibly less than 100 people in total. They decided the costs outweighed the benefit so all there efforts was then to fulfill and agenda of learning and exploiting the alien technology and ensuring the general public never find out the truth.

Im sure a derivative of this original group still resides over the Ufo issue abd revisit their cost/benefit analysis every 10-15 years. And always come up with same finding. Therefore dont expect government disclosure anytime too soon.

There appears to be snippets of information leaking out from various sources of what is going on behind the scenes with the Government and miltary involvement in the Ufo issues. This infomation some of it could be accidental information breaches, or dlilberate controlled leaks by this group of insiders. Some of these leaks pertain to a secret space progam and fleet.

If a secret space program really is operating. then it is almost certain they will have set up base on moon and are possibly even mining the moon for valuable minerals for use in and funding the secret space program.

Possibly also even bases on Mars. Therefore stories such as Laura Eisenhower recruitment to mars become feasible. Really need to keep an open mind with these things.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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have you considered that maybe the governments of the world are as clueless about the UFO phenomenon as we are? that maybe the government, more particularly the US airforce is embarrassed that they cannot pin down the source of the UFO let alone claim sovereignty of the sky they claim to protect?

i was reading the mothman prophesies and at one point i found myself thinking, "must be difficult for john keel to be an investigator when an unknown force is constantly trying to mislead you." i do like john keel's theory that maybe these "entities" and the UFO's they pilot are involuntary time travelers who have lost their identity along the way. without a way to know who they are, let alone return to their own time they act/appear irrational.

if a collective universal couscous exist, must it be sane?



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 06:46 AM
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if a collective universal couscous exist, must it be sane?


yes it has to be.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 07:11 AM
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The question of disclosure always has to be "Disclose what?".

We know that the UFO phenomenon was heavily investigated in the latter 1940s and through the early 1950s. At this time they were mainly reports of lights or objects in the sky. Was there an unknown alien presence flying in our skies at the time? Or were most incidents due to less sophisticated radar picking up birds etc? If so, could so many pilots be mistaken at what they saw visually?

Next came the contactee movement and the space brothers era. Human like beings who came from the nearby planets in the Solar System. In the 1960s the Hills abduction hit the news big time. Things had changed somewhat. Seemingly random people all over the planet were starting to report UFOs and odd creatures landing. Cattle abductions followed.By the late 1970s and 1980s abduction by little grey creatures was in vogue as the fallout from Roswell alien stories began to filter out to the world. All this along with tales of the secret MJ12 group set up to hide the truth from us all and then Bob Lazaar blowing the lid off Area 51 to reveal that we have alien technology hidden deep within the previously secret desert base. After that came the big black triangles, strange demonic like creatures being reported in Varghina, Brazil and the Phoenix Lights. But as the 21st century dawned the more exotic tales of alien contact seem to have either died down or have been suppressed. We have gone almost full circle and are back to distant lights in the sky as the bulk of alien contact stories nowadays because maybe we are no longer of interest?

A lot of that may simply be folklore. So who is covering up the truth and what, exactly, is that truth?

If the US government really do know aliens exist then are they simply aware of it but can do nothing about it? Is there a secret agreement with an alien presence to cover up the truth? Or could it be inspired by the fear of what revealing the "truth" may do to 7 billion people? Many of who could panic, and become openly hostile when faced with this knowledge. We also have to ask if all other national governments are complicit in keeping this knowledge secret and have been for many decades or are simply unaware?

The information (and disinformation) can take us in many different directions one of them being that the US government really do not have any idea what is going on. It may well be something beyond our limited comprehension of the universe.

For all we know perhaps there are certain times and places where multiple universes collide causing strange phenomenon in all of them? We may also be perceived as the aliens in other universes whilst this happens and it could explain the sightings of weird objects and creatures all over the earth.

So I am not sure any "disclosure", a road to free energy and an age of peace, love and liberty for all is going to happen for a long time. Simply because we appear to have a few pieces of a large jigsaw puzzle. Some of those pieces come from different jigsaw puzzles and don't fit and there is no picture on the lid of the box to help us either.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 07:56 AM
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your clever and mabey correct.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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If there are beings that have mastered intergalatic travel and thus can surpass the speed of light to visit life-bearing planets such as Earth then I doubt its the goverment suppressing anything more than the UFO/ET making the decision that we are simply not advanced enough to appreciate what they have accomplished/achived compared to our meager accomplishments.

Its comparable to un-contacted tribes having planes flying over them in the last 50 years, rather than embracing the plane as some sort of god they fire there bows and arrows at it because its beyond there comphrehension or understanding, and if the white man did happen to make contact with one of these tribes the tribe then began to worship the whiteman as a god and become reliant on him, thus stunting their growth as a culture/race. I belive this is what would happen if a superior race gave us everything we wanted, the human race as a whole would feel not only inferior but useless as we have nothing to aim for anymore.
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posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 05:49 AM
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That makes sense as well. We are too primitive to be worth Et wanting to making meaningful contact with the human tribe. If contact happens with selective individuals its probably like experiment in the wild tag the beast, or accident.

Im also open to the mind some elites get contacted for certain specific reasons, such as the Laura Eisenhower recruitment to Mars. The ordinary people like the rest of us, its gonna be a cases of tagging the wild beast for scientific interest.

If Et is interested in elites it really does beg the question why? I think more to do with bloodlines as Ets doesnt need money or technology from the rich or government.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Why on earth would the so called powers that be want to suppress something that would give them control over people?

If there were aliens here the powers would soon exploit the fact and use it to control people by telling us they can control the alien intentions (they'd say the aliens were here with ill-will whether they were ot not) if we all abide by the elitist rules. They'd try to scare us into abiding by their rule. I doubt there is anything to suppress as yet.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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OR Do you think it is because there is NOTHING to disclose? If E.T is visiting Planet Earth, and governments are in collusion with them, then why are we spending millions on sending craft to Mars to dig for samples? Either the Aliens could bring the samples to Earth for us or they could tell us what we want to know about Mars, as surely if they have come all the way to Earth then they could stop off at Mars on the way to do a recon.




posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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From what i understand and have read ie Timothy Good's works, there is or was an agreement in place between world Govt and ET for a 50 to 60 year education programme to be done on Earth with the rest of the population advising them over time of the ET concept. I do believe that some of the technology we have now ie ipads, laptops, mobile phones etc have orginated from back engineering some ET technology. However that agreement has now expired, and unless ET has allowed an extension of time, then it would have to be released to the rest of the world. If the agreement is not honoured then I understand ET will then take the steps to make themselves known to humanity.




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