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posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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Things that are real:

This thread, is real.
Debt, is real.

Nibiru, not real.

-saige-




posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 01:51 PM
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posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by knowneedtoknow
Hello

In Russia everbody knows that Nibiru is coming just type in youtube "russia nibiru"

But for now lets start with ancient knowledge the Sumerian they have 11 planets on a tablet 7000 years old tablet
And they did know them buy size and order and did know they where round.

What happen to all those ancient civilizations that did build those great cities where did they go ?
Something did happen and will happen again

The video i will post talks about 11 planets in our solar system 1 of those planet that nibiru crush in the past was Phaeton what is now the asteroid belt . the dinosaurs gone , ancient civilizations gone Something those happen time after time we are next

The video is in Russian and subtitle in English






Does anyone in Russia have the coordinates to this so called Nibiru so I can look for it myself?



posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by Nostalgic
reply to post by knowneedtoknow
 


It is quite clear that Stitchin's (and all of his followers) interpreation of that seal is heavily flawed and lacks any scientific merit. To begin with, the inscriptions on both sides of the seal say absolutely nothing about planets or anything related to astronomy. The "sun" symbol isn't even the symbol that Sumero-Mesopatamian artists used to depict our sun, or the sun god (Shamash/Utu). It is a symbol that was used to depict stars. Both Sumerian and Mesopotamian artists used two clearly different symbols to depict our sun (or the sun god) and stars (often portraying other gods).

It is widely accepted (by those in position to accurately study the subject) that the seal depicts a deity that is associated with fertilization, as it clearly describes an offering being made by a worshipper(s) to a seated god who is associated with fertile harvest.

Plenty of information on this Sumerian seal can be found here.


In addition, I will provide a summary by Michael Heisner (Ph.D, Hebrew Bible and Ancient Semitic Languages) that demonstrates that there isn't a single text in the entire cuneiform record that:

1) Has "nibiru" as a planet existing beyond Pluto
2) Connects "nibiru" with the Anunnaki
3) Puts "nibiru" on some sort of 3600 year cycle through our solar system

Feel free to read over the enormous amount of study that went into these debates. I'm sure there's a lot of information out there that you aren't aware of. In fact, if you are interested in doing some research of your own, this video would be a great start. It will teach you how to begin researching cuneiform words and translations online, for free. Give it a try!



Cheers


Hold on a minute! Is that supposed to be a rational rebuttal?

I admit the OP is a bit blunt in his claims, but if you're trying to debunk/undermine what he says, you could at least do it properly!

"It is quite clear...Sitchin's work does not have any scientific merit" - please, explain, because I see nothing in what you say that makes this clear, you're just making vague, general assertions.

"It is widely accepted...(by those who are in a position to study...)" - oh yeah, you mean as in it is widely accepted within the scientific establishment? Is that your reference for truth on a subject like this?

"a phd...that demonstrates" - for me, that's about the funniest sentence I've seen on ATS today - about as good as citing youtube. In case you don't know, the whole Phd exercise is about learning to "demonstrate" just about anything...

"Feel free to read the enormous amount of study..." - you know what? I just might. Why don't you give us all some of your bibliography, since it appears to be so exhaustive?

C'mon, half-baked debunking like this is about as solid as a paper kite...sure it can fly high, but that doesn't mean it's an eagle, still less an F-22 Raptor.



posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by taccj9903
I put in "russia nibiru" in youtube and clicked on a few videos that came up in the search and all of these videos started out with the same Russian woman speaking in Russian with subtitles in English. I didn't even bother watching the rest of the videos considering they are all in Russian and I would have to depend on the subtitles. There is no way to validate any of the information not to mention there is no way of knowing the credibility of the people talking.

I still remain skeptical and open minded about Niburu but I hardly see how any of the information posted on youtube is helping to solidify the claims of its existence.



I can speak Russian and these old ladiers... are whacky ones



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 12:41 AM
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Can't believe this is what qualifies as evidence to some people. But anyway the video stated it would be visible by April 2011 with naked eye. I guess it must have passed by already. Congratulations everyone we survived Nibiru 14 months ago.

A youtube video will never be proof of anything. Ever. Period. Especially the mixes of foreign news stories in languages no one understands, and contains proven innacurate predictions in subtitles. Please close and delete this thread.



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 07:41 AM
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In Russia everbody knows that Nibiru is coming just type in youtube "russia nibiru"

What you mean to say is that Russian video makers spend more time making videos about a fictional planet than others.


But for now lets start with ancient knowledge the Sumerian they have 11 planets on a tablet 7000 years old tablet
And they did know them buy size and order and did know they where round.

Lots of mistakes here including the age of the tablet. Your interpretation of the seal is also wrong. The objects are stars, not planets.


What happen to all those ancient civilizations that did build those great cities where did they go

Take a history course and find out.


1 of those planet that nibiru crush in the past was Phaeton what is now the asteroid belt .

The asteroids do not have enough mass to even make our Moon let along a planet.

This is a just a rehash of Sitchin's folly.



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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It may indeed be real! To completely discount knowledge from cultures around the world whose engineering feats best our own is foolish.

Not true. We can do anything they did and more.



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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Who's to say that the twelfth 'planet' on the Sumerian seal isn't Eris, as opposed to Nibiru?

There are few astronomical records left over from Sumer. What has been found only lists the planets that can be seen with the unaided eye. They do not mention Uranus or Neptune. How are they going to detect Eris or Ceres or any of the other smaller objects in the solar system?



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 07:49 AM
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Nibiru is on its return path. Zecharia Sitchin tried to give us this information. He knew more about the Sumerian cosmolgy better than anyone. His books should be considered priceless for the knowldege they decifer. The Red Dragon is making its approach. We chose not to listen.

Sitchin is a fraud. He conjured up a fiction that involves a planet with impossible properties. His translations are wrong. He even introduces the word Nibiru to Sumerian language - a word that does not exist at the time.



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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Hold on a minute! Is that supposed to be a rational rebuttal?

Your response to a well written statement is rather poorly written. Your post shows you to be a scoffer. The post you refer to provides a wealth of information showing the OP to be a silly repeat of Sitchin's long discredited claims.



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 08:06 AM
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Oh for the love of God. Did mom and dad not lock the computer before they went out on their Friday date?



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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Nibiru is coming. Quick everyone look busy.



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Cataka
You need a period between Nibiru and the word period. Then another period after the word period.

It may indeed be real! To completely discount knowledge from cultures around the world whose engineering feats best our own is foolish.

Yes, I agree. the post title would read a lot better. I also agree that Nibiru may in fact be real, after all, the Ancient Sumerian People did not scratch fiction on all those tablets reserved for the Priesthood only, they wrote down their History, Culture, Religion, and their Gods. These Gods walked on the planet and were 12 feet tall. They commanded beasts of the field to do their bidding, and commanded weather, and altered natural events to fit their own agendas.

I have often pondered on the thought....what if the Annunaki Gods and Goddesses did return? What then? Humanity has surely became as they were, a barbaric and bloodthirsty race who wish to control everybody else.
Would they again attempt to enslave Humanity, or would this be a rescue mission instead? This we will not know until when and if they come.

The need to prepare for life in the Greater Community, I feel, is the greatest need there is in our world today. And yet, from my own observations, people are totally preoccupied with their own affairs and their own problems in their daily lives, unaware of the greater forces that will change their destiny and affect their future. They are so distracted by their personally electronic devices. Who looks up and searches the skies anymore? If Nibiru did arrive, how many would even notice it?



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by MrWendal
I watched the video and I noticed something interesting....

The video itself claims that April of 2012 Nibiru could be seen with the naked eye in the Southern Hemisphere. It is almost August, where are the reports?


Well, I'm reporting I can't see it.

I don't know if it's real or not, but if it is, I wish it would show up!

All these dates and no-shows are disappointing. One day, surely, someone will have to get something right...



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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So how do you explain that Nibiru was not even a word in ancient Sumer. The word begins later with the Akkadians.



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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So how do you explain that Nibiru was not even a word in ancient Sumer. The word begins later with the Akkadians.

Oh, but is was a word in Ancient Sumer, and in Ancient Babylon. I would say it was a common word in those days, in may different places.

Recently, a “new” planet was discovered. It is belived to be the tenth planet in our solar system. But summerians wrote about it, they’ve studied its orbit as they belived it to be the home planet of the Anunnaki. This planet – named by the summerian Nibiru – has the size, orbit, and characteristics described in the Enuma Elish.

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NIBIRU *Nibiru, to the Babylonians, was the celestial body or region sometimes associated with the god Marduk. In Enûma Elish, a civil war between the gods was growing to a climactic battle. The Anunnaki gods gathered together to find one god who could defeat the gods rising against them. Marduk, a very young god, answered the call and was promised the position of head god.

When he killed his enemy, he "wrested from him the Tablets of Destiny, wrongfully his" and assumed his new position. Under his reign humans were created to bear the burdens of life so the gods could be at leisure.

*referenced from Wikipedia article on Marduk
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posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Oh, but is was a word in Ancient Sumer, and in Ancient Babylon. I would say it was a common word in those days, in may different places.

Not true. The first use of the word is by the Akkadians.

Your link about a 10th planet is full og baloney.

Recently, a “new” planet was discovered. It is belived to be the tenth planet in our solar system. But summerians wrote about it, they’ve studied its orbit as they belived it to be the home planet of the Anunnaki. This planet – named by the summerian Nibiru – has the size, orbit, and characteristics described in the Enuma Elish.

Tombaugh discovered Pluto in 1930. Christie, of the U.S. Naval Observatory, discovered Charon, Pluto’s moon, in 1978. The characteristics of Pluto derivable from the nature of Charon demonstrated that there must still be a large planet undiscovered because Pluto could not be the cause of the residuals, the “wobbles” in the orbital paths of Uranus and Neptune clearly identifiable. The IRAS (Infrared Astronomical Satellite), during ’83 -’84, produced observations of a tenth planet so robust that one of the astronomers on the project said that “all that remains is to name it” — from which point the information has become curiously guarded. In 1992 Harrington and Van Flandern of the Naval Observatory, working with all the information they had at hand, published their findings and opinion that there is, indeed, a tenth planet, even calling it an “intruder” planet. The search was narrowed to the southern skies, below the ecliptic.

1. No new planet has been discovered - that is a lie in the text
2. The ancient Sumerians did not describe any planets other than those that can be seen with the unaided eye - the text lies
3. Charon was not discovered until after the search for Planet X ended - the text lies
4. Charon does not indicate an unknown planet exists - the text lies
5. IRAS did not observe a new planet - the text lies
6. Harrington did a search based on bad data - the incorrect mass of Neptune

You used a hoax site to support your contention.



posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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You know what, I don't even know what nibiru truly is? A planet? A star? The abyss in revelations 9/11? Whatever it is, go away!

But if there is a speculation that something is real and causing all this. I have a theory. The energy coming in from the galactic center, even caught by NASA, and we probably have some of those magnetic strips NASA wrote about in our solar system and they're not admitting to it (never mind any orbits of eccentric planets, they could be dancing around too for all I know). But that energy is significant.

What if the crop circles show the sun expanding and that its earth's time to shine. What if one day the sun will ask us to take its place? And the roll of infinite film bumps ahead, as we upgrade, and earth becomes a crystal star, the sun blows off its energy and goes home to the Beyond. Just a theory but as good as any. Then its our turn to guide the children. We become the guides, and helpers.
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posted on Jul, 28 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
What if one day the sun will ask us to take its place? And the roll of infinite film bumps ahead, as we upgrade, and earth becomes a crystal star, the sun blows off its energy and goes home to the Beyond. Just a theory but as good as any. Then its our turn to guide the children. We become the guides, and helpers.


The Sun is going to open a line of communication with us? Seriously? I thought we were talking about Nibiru and its non existance.

Also, in future if the sun asks us to take its place as a giant ball of nuclear plasma, say "No".









 
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