that is very interesting!... i can see now how the new world order is meant in the spiritual terms....
Thank you. That makes it all worth the trouble, and enduring all the hater-posts (which I knew would come). I got a similar revalation when I was
reading that book, and wanted to share it with the world just in case there would be people like you who can get it and utilize this perspective.
I didn't mean to claim anything (especially in certainty), I only meant to offer a different perspective to the whole "World Order"-thing, that people
might not otherwise have access to. Everyone is of course free to decide for themselves whether to accept it as one more perspective in their
collection, or reject it, because it's "channeled" or whatever.
I judge the message by the message, not by it's bearer. Whether something is 'channeled' or typed by an individual from his own thinking, it's the
message itself that counts, not who brought it and how they got it.
So this post would best be used as a "what if THIS is what 'world order' really means", instead of "this is definitely how it is". I am just saying
this is how it is, because it's the best theory I have become aware of so far, and I am convinced this is how it actually is.
I mean, think about it - the concept of 'new world order' doesn't really make all that much sense. Why not call it 'United World' or 'The Empire of
Earth' or something else? Why are they so adamant at calling it "new world order"? ... Well, like Columbo might say - "I don't know if it's true or
not - but it would certainly explain a heckuva lot"
so its like the evil on this earth is trying to get the people away from living the order of life... the world order...
that i assume is from the hand of the devil.. or the ultimate evil that is out there.. and i think TPTB ultimately came to be from the devil and the
evil he brought to this earth.. and you can see how he is trying to get us humans on the wrong path, and away from the natural laws of life.
Like, from the natural into the unnatural. Think about all the things that are so popular these days - how natural is a human's life nowadays? People
dress in black, often wearing skull/skeleton/crossbones symbols. They listen to heavy music, and watch movies that depict demons and 'satan' in one
form or another. They see nature only through glass panes or TV screens/computer monitors. They sit in their square buildings, watching a square box
pushing square agenda into their heads. They go to square offices, doing their part to harm the world in their square cubicles.. then they sit in
little, moving boxes until they get 'home', and pour unhealthy food and cell poisons into their bodies. They form friendships by clicking "add as a
friend" or "subscribe".
When they talk to each other, it's usually about celebrities, TV programs, work or all kinds of 'problems'. Everyone is -busy- all the time. From
human beings into human doings. No time or patience, ability or interest to talk about life, meaning, freedom, rights, authority, difference between
'lawful' and 'legal', and programmed, knee-jerk reactions to 'sensitive' topics. You can't mention conspiracies to most people in real life - they
will not react in a rational and civilized way. No one feels content or satisfied, they act like hungry and lusty demon-animals, who want more and
more shiny objects in their possession. And they will sign any paper to get it..
And on and on... they have succeeded tremendously (I didn't even touch the topic of "money")
I am pretty sure something like what you describe is going on. When you think from a chronologically wider perspective, you have to wonder how TPTB
and the whole conspiracy came to be.
They say it began with Rockefellers or Rothschilds (I wonder if I typed the name correctly), but I have also pondered why the direction stays exactly
the same, just like the methods do - and who would have the PATIENCE to wait it all out, for centuries and centuries, when the usual lifespan for
humans is about a hundred years, maybe 120 max?
So it's like some "more eternal" force or being that doesn't age like humans do, is at play here - someone who definitely wants it all to happen
this way, and who makes sure that people will follow and obey that very agenda that's making humanity into a raving pack of demons, destroying their
own planet. And who has a lot of time to wait it all out and to see it all unfold..
Now, this may sound wild, but once I became aware of an 'alternate perspective' to the whole Nazi Germany and Hitler topics, and it would all fit. If
the "Illuminati" (who is mentioned by George Washington in a letter, if I am not mistaken) really were the original pirates in the seas (have you
noticed how much 'pirate' stuff is advertised and shown these days? Even people who just copy computer files are called 'pirates'), with the same
skull+crossbones-flag that the SS Nazis used (SS for Schwartze Sonne, meaning "Dark Sun", referring to the etheric side of the sun)....
... it seems like it was the same group
all the time! But how can that be, when the whole 'story' spans such an awfully long time? No one human
individual could have lived that long in one incarnation! Well, it has been said of course, that they have the ability to not only 'screen' their
offspring for desired qualities, but they use the same 'bloodline', and also, being practicing occultists (just like the original pirates were with
voodoo and all - not the black people in New Orleans, for example), that they could somehow make sure the same souls keep reincarnating in their evil
families... (this does sound far-fetched, and I am not sure if it's possible, considering the rules in the astral plane and all - but then, the souls
do not have to be the same - only similar enough that they could also be made into the evil 'overlords' as the previous ones, so that the agenda can
continue as planned - it's like, the pawns do not matter, only the evil being who controls everything behind the veil matters, and his plan too, of
Well, according to the different perspective, Hitler was just a marionette, a puppet, that didn't yield the real power, but was controlled and helped
by the 'occult forces'. You know, 'from the other side' perhaps. (in one book, a man describes meeting one of these evil beings in the astral world,
that try to influence and control humans) These forces made the audiences always mesmerized, so they would blindly cheer Hitler, no matter what he
said, and his speeches would seem to make sense (many germans read the speech later in a paper, and were appalled that they actually cheered for such
a speech, and couldn't understand what happened)
When you put 1+1 together, it would certainly seem to fit nicely. I am sure SOMETHING like that is going on.
i never looked at the new world order that way, but it makes total sense..
Thank you - that's why I posted! I wanted to show my finding about "World Order" (that couldn't have been a coincidence) to the world, so that people
may process and ponder about this information as a possibility, weighing it against the options.
I also think it makes more sense than any explanation I have been able to muster so far. The presidents and other people have kept repeating that
phrase way too much for it to be just a 'buzzword' or something to not consider at all. And usually everything they do, all the phrases and symbols
they use, have an occult basis of some kind. They are freemasons, after all - nothing is left to chance. They wouldn't come up with a phrase that
doesn't have a signifigance in the symbolic and occultic level as well as just as spoken language.
They wouldn't simply hold a meeting like this:
"Hm, what shall we name our rule/empire? The Empire?
Nah, too movie-like. hmm.. Luciferian Dictatorship?
Nah, too revealing.. something 'new', because people love 'new' things, right? Hmm, new earth government?
Nah, too bureaucratic.. hmm.. oh, oh, I know, New Order!
Hm.. that sounds a bit too stiff and nazi-like, but otherwise it sounds good.. how about adding something to it to soften it up?
Like - planet? Earth? World?
Ooh, that sounds nice, New World Order! Yeah, that's what we'll call it!"
No. there must be some spiritual/occult signifigance to it. And at least this message has a good, solid basis of why it would be like that.
World Order would be the natural way beings normally develop, and a sort of guiding Law of the Universe, that ensures peace, love, harmony, and
condition/status of any civilization, and protects it. To me, this sounds very logical.
But the evil 'rulers' of this planet don't want that, because then they couldn't RULE and CONTROL people.. so they need a different "World Order" than
the original and thus natural one. And so they work hard for centuries to replace the "World Order" with their "New World Order". Like a restaurant's
menu is replaced with a new menu, which looks the same on the surface, but is actually really lousy compared to the original one.
This might not be logical to some people, but to me, it makes sense. I am glad there are others who can see it this way and accept this as at least a
possible explanation for the terminology they are using. The point here is not the E.T. or the boy, or the channeling - the point here is an
alternative perspective to the 'usual' ones.
I mean, what if it IS true? What if this is how it is? Why couldn't it be like this?
The worst part of all it is, people are -letting- it happen. Masses have -consented- to everything that is going on! (mostly unknowingly, though, but
still) That's the most shocking part.. the 'good forces' can't help much, if we have consented to the evil. That's why free will is so important! We
don't have to keep consenting.. acts and statutes (the legal system) only has to be followed by people who have consented to being governed by them -
not anyone else! The Law is a very different thing, and everyone must obey it - but it's also very simple. It's based on the ten commandments, and
basically says - do not injure, harm, steal or cause loss or commit fraud.
But people have signed so many 'applications' (means 'to beg'), 'submissions' and 'registrations' (regis = king - to register is to give allodial
title (=ownership) to the government), that they are hopelessly entangled with the 'joinders' they have created ('joinder' basically means joining an
artificial person (a 'strawman') and a living, human being - you) in the process. And 'persons' must obey acts and statutes - living human beings
don't. But after a 'joinder', now the human is identified as "person", so now the human also must follow them.. it's SO diabolical, it boggles the
In any case, I thank you for your positive, constructive and non-judgmental and rational message, amidst the hostile, attacking, ridiculing
thanks for that!.. good OP..
I appreciate your thankfulness! Thank you too!
It's good to have been able to bring an 'out of the box' perspective to at least one other human. This information would be hard to get, because the
country is really tiny, the language rare, and I don't know if this message has ever been translated to any other language before. The boy himself, as
an adult, despises the messages, and don't like them - he also later said he doesn't think they came from an E.T., but just his own sub-conscious or
This is my only thread creation so far, and it could be my last, because I think most of the important stuff is said already, and people don't seem to
treat alternative perspectives very kindly here. If it weren't for you, I would definitely feel like never creating any threads here again, but
because of you, I have some hope.
By the way, I couldn't edit the message anymore.. perhaps there is a time limit or something, I am not completely familiar with how everything works
here. It kind of bugs me, because I have an editing mistake in one message that I can't now correct (I was talking about a picture, but then added
another picture and some more explanation, and then the text still refers to 'picture in question', although now it seems to point to a completely
I guess I could actually proofread my translation, correct it's mistakes, typos and other things (there were a couple of things that I would now word
a bit differently to convey the meaning better, but I was tired back then), and then re-post it as a new message in this thread.. I should probably
have translated it into a text file, proofread it the next day and only then posted it. Live and learn..
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