All two to 17-year-olds in the UK are to be offered annual flu vaccinations.

reply to post by SevenThunders

So you have no problem with immune destroying adjuvents, heavy metal intoxication, cell lines drawn from aborted fetuses, and the possible use of the vaccines to sterilize, experiment with, or infect the youth of the UK?

Medical and scientific based proof or precedent for any of these wild accusations?

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
reply to post by SevenThunders

 

So you have no problem with immune destroying adjuvents, heavy metal intoxication, cell lines drawn from aborted fetuses, and the possible use of the vaccines to sterilize, experiment with, or infect the youth of the UK?

Medical and scientific based proof or precedent for any of these wild accusations?

Let's just start with the adjuvants shall we?
www.whale.to...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
articles.mercola.com...

Aborted fetuses?
www.vaccinationnews.com...

Vaccines to control population:
www.whale.to...

reply to post by SevenThunders


These are just articles with little or no methodology, I cannot take them seriously. I am not denying that there may be risks with these vaccines, but we need actual journal based investigations to prove this.

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
reply to post by SevenThunders

 

These are just articles with little or no methodology, I cannot take them seriously. I am not denying that there may be risks with these vaccines, but we need actual journal based investigations to prove this.

Oh OK. So the PubMed articles are not good enough for you? UC Davis has done a number of studies which show a link between thimerisol, a vaccine preservative and autism over the years. Of course the shrill voices of the vaccine manufacturers have tried to stamp out the truth, but they will not prevail.

www.autism.com...
psychcentral.com...
www.huffingtonpost.com...

Are the UC Davis researchers not 'scientific' enough for you? Perhaps they needed funding from GlaxoSmithKline for the vaccine study to be valid.

reply to post by SevenThunders


From the UC Davis report you linked.

Our findings do not directly implicate thimerosal as a single causative agent for triggering neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism," Pessah said. "There is growing evidence that autism is several disorders that we now refer to as just one. There is also growing evidence that some children with autism have unique immune cell composition and responses to antigens. The results of our work provide a framework to test the hypothesis that the genetic background of some individuals may render them especially susceptible to thimerosal."

Other experts also advise drawing no final conclusions regarding thimerosal and autism based on these outcomes. "These findings should be interpreted cautiously. Although they suggest that thimerosal may affect dendritic cell function, the pathophysiological consequences of thimerosal remain unclear," said David A. Schwartz, a physician and director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences.

It would seem, from these studies, that it is inconclusive at most on the vaccines using this agent having any link to autism.

I'm no fan of the drug companies, but I need conclusive or at least partially conclusive, journal based evidence that there is a link in this case, otherwise it is tantamount to scaremongering.

It goes like this:-

- Big Pharma donate to Political Party before election

- If Political Party gets into power, they do a favor in return, in this case setting up a major flu vaccine contract between the NHS and Big Pharma

- Big Pharma easily make their donation/investment back with the flu vaccine contract

- Vaccines are to sow the seeds of disease, so on the long term there will be a huge increase in allergies and autoimmune diseases from these extra vaccines, meaning that Big Pharma's UK profits shoot right up

It's important to understand this from Big Pharma's point of view; there's not much use advertising a treatment e.g. for Diabetes Type 1, if not enough people have the illness. Instead Big Pharma has a different business model, where they request access to your body, to inject with disease and disrupt your immune system. Then a few months or years later you go to see your doctor with your symptoms, which he/she recognizes and then writes you a prescription for the treatment, meaning Big Pharma start profiting from the vaccine damage they caused.

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
It would seem, from these studies, that it is inconclusive at most on the vaccines using this agent having any link to autism.

I'm no fan of the drug companies, but I need conclusive or at least partially conclusive, journal based evidence that there is a link in this case, otherwise it is tantamount to scaremongering.

There's plenty of conclusive evidence, it's just we don't get told it's 'conclusive'.

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Here are some useful links Peruvianmonk, plenty of information on the dangers of vaccines and on why Big Pharma absolutely cannot be trusted ever again.

Firstly we have the former Merck Vaccine Chief Dr Maurice Hilleman admitting that the Cancer causing SV40 is in vaccines
www.youtube.com...

Bayer knowingly sold HIV contaminated Vaccines
www.youtube.com...

The independent and internationally renowned Cochrane Collaboration warned that there are no studies showing that the flu vaccines are safe or effective
www.medicalnewstoday.com...

Then we have Cot Death, which ceases to exist when you stop vaccinating under-2's
www.vierascheibner.org...
www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com...

Was young Max really going to become Autistic, he seems to be doing well beforehand, until he had his MMR. We here the same story again and again, $Trillions of compensation would have to be paid out if it were ever admitted.
www.youtube.com...

A doctor has evidence that all vaccines are causing mini-strokes
vactruth.com...

Next we have the risk of inducing Diabetes Type 1
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

The old person's flu vaccine causes dementia/Alzheimer's
www.whale.to...

There is evidence that UNICEF sterilize under the guise of vaccination in third world nations
www.lifesitenews.com...

And we also have the the so-called 'conspiracy theorists' who point out evidence of the Swine Flu vaccine being used to get the population down by damaging developing ovaries with Polysorbate 80. organichealthadviser.com...

The 'conspiracy theorists' will also point to the fact that those who live near to the Hepatisis B vaccination stations in Africa are the most likely cause of HIV
www.originofaids.com...

There is even evidence that childhood illnesses such as Measles make us stronger, grow taller, and less likely to go down with various Cancers
tv.naturalnews.com...

Here's an interesting survey - Survey Results: Are Unvaccinated Children Healthier?
www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com...

Interesting vaccine quotes for those interested
www.vaclib.org...

It's more about damaging fertility, reducing future population. They've admitted they want the UK population down to below 30 million, that's why they're going round with the Swine Flu Vaccines (using Polysorbate 80 to damage developing ovaries) and the HPV which also destroys fertility. That's what those two programs are really about. The Bankers control Big Pharma, remember the Rockefeller's proudly funded the NAZI's and their eugenics programs, now they donate to the WHO and use Big Pharma to continue where they left off with the NAZI's. They'd admitted they want the world population down by at least 50%, this is how they're doing it.

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
reply to post by jrmcleod

 

I find it hard to believe that the medical establishment in this country are intentionally, through this vaccine, out to kill more of the population of the UK.