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The ACLU of Arizona has released thousands of emails it says prove that SB 1070, Arizona’s controversial immigration law, was racially motivated. According to a report by the Arizona Republic, the emails, acquired through a public records request, are to and from the author of SB 1070, recalled Arizona Senate President Russell Pearce (R). The documents may help the ACLU to convince a federal judge to prevent the “show me your papers” section of SB 1070 from going into effect.
I'm not sure that that is so clearly false. I'm thinking about La Raza and other groups whose goals include taking back the southwest. The second sentence is
“Battles commence as Mexican nationalists struggle to infuse their men into American government and strengthen control over their strongholds.
Besides the deplorable spelling, is it wrong to call him a Mexican-American? People are often called (some nation)-American to indicate their heritage. I don't think that the mayor would be offended to be called that. Are people still being called African-American to indicate their roots even if they were born here?
One look at Los Angeles with its Mexican-American mayor shows you Vincente Fox’s general Varigossa commanding an American city.”
Originally posted by charles1952
If the problem in an environment is too many rabbits, then wanting to crack down on rabbits isn't racism (or specieism). If the author sees too many (what's the correct term now; illegals, undocumented workers, I don't know, I can't keep up), and those people come largely from one country, it may not be racism.
An analysis of census data from the U.S. and Mexican governments details the movement to and from Mexico, a nation accounting for nearly 60 percent of the illegal immigrants in the U.S.
Roughly 6.1 million unauthorized Mexican immigrants were living in the U.S. last year, down from a peak of nearly 7 million in 2007, according to the Pew Hispanic Center study released Monday. It was the biggest sustained drop in modern history, believed to be surpassed in scale only by losses in the Mexican-born U.S. population during the Great Depression.
Originally posted by FreeFromTheHerd
Stating facts does not make one a racist.
Immigration both legal and illegal in large numbers from 3rd world nations is yet another big reason why the U.S. is headed down the toilet.
Ooops, dag nab those blasted decimal places. Your numbers would give a result of 2%, the margin of victory in many elections.
Even at peak numbers, Illegal immigrants represent .02% of the 300 M + US population? Too many??
I agree, he wasn't being precise in his terms. I suspect most illegal aliens are Mexican-Americans, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work the other way.
Lastly I will point out that the emails reflect a rant toward Mexicans et. al. and Mexican Culture with only the slightest facade of discern between "Mexican-Americans" and Illegal Immigrants...and LA's Mayor of Latin heritage was even cast as "leading an invasion".
Originally posted by Indigo5
And history repeats itself...
Let's kick out anyone of Irish heritage...
And the Asians
And the Italians...
We are a melting pot....and an alloy is stronger than steel.
Racism is rust and corrosion...morals aside, it weakens us as a nation.
Originally posted by FreeFromTheHerd
Immigration both legal and illegal in large numbers from 3rd world nations is yet another big reason why the U.S. is headed down the toilet.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
reply to post by Blackmarketeer
Just more fuel to this fire, its been argued on ATS for years that this was a racist law, authored by a racist, yet as you can clearly see even when its been proven as racist people here still defend it.
They are defending it because there racist?
Originally posted by charles1952
Can we say that it is possible that the E-mails were written by someone who saw the problem as being too many people,
Originally posted by charles1952
costing too much money,
"Fruits and vegetables in Georgia were worth $1.1 billion. We could see a $200 (million) to $250 million loss, potentially,"
Originally posted by charles1952
and, in his opinion, failing to assimilate?
Originally posted by charles1952
Ooops, dag nab those blasted decimal places. Your numbers would give a result of 2%, the margin of victory in many elections.
Even at peak numbers, Illegal immigrants represent .02% of the 300 M + US population? Too many??
Originally posted by Indigo5
"your poor? Your weak? Your hungry? Your Tired?"
Immigration from 3rd world nations is what made us the greatest country on earth.edit on 25-7-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by Indigo5
Dear Indigo5,
As usual, you're a great help. Maybe if I was more clear. My objection to this thread is the use of the word "racist" when there seems to be insufficient evidence for it. I could see the same sort of correspondence if the French separatists sent millions of illegals from Canada in an attempt to reclaim Michigan and several other states for Quebec.
From the same source:
A prominent advocate of Reconquista is Professor Charles Truxillo of the University of New Mexico (UNM), who envisions a sovereign Hispanic nation called the Republica del Norte (Republic of the North) that would encompass Northern Mexico, Baja California, California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas
Truxillo believes that the Republica del Norte will be brought into existence by "any means necessary" but that it was unlikely to be formed by civil war but rather by the electoral pressure of the future majority Hispanic population in the region. Truxillo added that he believes it's his job to help develop a “cadre of intellectuals” to think about how this new state can become a reality.
More:
In an interview with In Search of Aztlán on August 8, 1999, Jose Angel Gutierrez, a political science professor at the University of Texas at Arlington, stated that:
"We’re the only ethnic group in America that has been dismembered. We didn't migrate here or immigrate here voluntarily. The United States came to us in succeeding waves of invasions. We are a captive people, in a sense, a hostage people. It is our political destiny and our right to self-determination to want to have our homeland [back]. Whether they like it or not is immaterial. If they call us radicals or subversives or separatists, that’s their problem. This is our home, and this is our homeland, and we are entitled to it. We are the host. Everyone else is a guest."
"It is not our fault that whites don’t make babies, and blacks are not growing in sufficient numbers, and there’s no other groups with such a goal to put their homeland back together again. We do. Those numbers will make it possible. I believe that in the next few years, we will see an irredentists movement, beyond assimilation, beyond integration, beyond separatism, to putting Mexico back together as one. That's irridentism. One Mexico, one nation."
In an interview with the Star-Telegram in October 2000, Gutierrez stated that many recent Mexican immigrants "want to recreate all of Mexico and join all of Mexico into one...even if it's just demographically... They are going to have political sovereignty over the Southwest and many parts of the Midwest."
And:
Harvard University professor Samuel P. Huntington stated in 2004 that:
Demographically, socially and culturally, the reconquista of the Southwest United States by Mexico is well under way. No other immigrant group in U.S. history has asserted or could assert a historical claim to U.S. territory. Mexicans and Mexican-Americans can and do make that claim."
HELP! I've never had this problem. I can't get the link to work. You should find it if you search for Reconquista, then use the "Mexico" modifier on Wiki. (Otherwise you'll get the Iberian Peninsula one.) I'm sorry.
Neo-liberal political writer Mickey Kaus has remarked,
If you talk to people in Mexico... if you get them drunk in a bar, they’ll say we’re taking it back, sorry. That’s not an uncommon sentiment in Mexico, so why can’t we take it seriously here? This is like a Quebec problem if France was next door to Canada.
"We reject the occupation of our nation in its northern territories, an important cause of poverty and emigration. We demand that our claim to all the territories occupied by force by the United States be recognized in our Constitution, and we will bravely defend, according to the principle of self-determination to all peoples, the right of the Mexican people to live in the whole of our territory within its historical borders, as they existed and were recognized at the moment of our independence."