The Birth of Osiris?, page 1


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Topic started on 25-7-2012 @ 07:30 AM by Scott Creighton
Hi ATS,

The origins of Osiris, the AE god of rebirth/regeneration is shrouded in the dark veil of antiquity. No one truly knows who Osiris was or even if he actually existed at some time in the ancient past. And yet, somehow, by the end of the 5th dynasty, Osiris rose from relative obscurity to become one of ancient Egypt's most important gods and remained so for the remainder of ancient Egyptian history.

The few references we have about the Origins of Osiris have been passed down to us for thousands of years in the 'Pyramid Texts' and in the 'Myth of Osiris and Isis'. But where did it all begin and why was Osiris so revered by the ancient Egyptians of later times?

One of the few clues we have as to who (or what) Osiris actually was comes to us from the Pyramids Texts:

"This pyramid... is Osiris. This construction... is Osiris" - PT 1657


It seems then from the PTs that at the very beginning, Osiris was a pyramid, or perhaps a series of pyramids. We learn also from the 'Myth of Osiris and Isis' that the body of Osiris had been cut into 14 pieces (some version say 16 pieces) and scattered across Egypt. Could it be then that the first 16 pyramids that were built by the ancient Egyptians represented the 'body of Osiris' in a similar way that a modern Christian church might be described as the 'House of God' or the 'Body of Christ'?

If we then consider the locations of the first 16 or so pyramids the ancient Egyptians built might it in some way resemble the classic 'Body of Osiris' (see image 1 below) that we are so accustomed to seeing in ancient Egyptian art?

Image 1:



I will say right away that what I am about to present is something of a stretch but it is possible that such might be the case; that the first pyramids represent the 'body of Osiris' (well, the 'backbone' of Osiris).

Let us first of all consider the arrangement of the first 17 pyramids built by the ancient Egyptians. (I use 17 because 3 of these first pyramids were never completed which might perhaps explain why the 'Myth of Osiris and Isis' refers to 14 pieces of Osiris).

Image 2:



The image above shows the following pyramids constructed on the high plateaus along the Nile:

Djoser (Saqqara)
Sekhemkhet (Saqqara - Unfinished)
Khaba (Zawiyet al-Aryan - Unfinished)
Sneferu (Meidum - furthest south)
Sneferu (Dahshur - Bent)
Sneferu (Dahshur - Red)
Khufu (Giza)
Djedefre (Abu Rawash - furthest north)
Khafre (Giza)
Nebka (Zawiyet al-Aryan - Unfinished)
Menkaure (Giza)

In addition to the above, Mark Lehner lists in his 'The Complete Pyramids' the 6 satellite pyramids at Giza, giving a total of 17 pyramids.

Looking at image 2 above, there is little immediate correlation with the classic Osiris we see in image 1. If we look a bit closer, however, and apply our imagination in the same way astronomers do with star asterisms whereby all manner of creatures are conjured up, it is possible (with a stretch) to depict the 'bare bones' of an Osiris outline. Let us see:

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With each pyramid within the 'Body of Osiris' serving as a 'Recovery Vault' (securing seed - wheat, barley etc and other vital recovery goods - see the Recovery Vault Theory), it is little wonder then that later ancient Egyptians during the Festival of Khoiak would create small effigies of Osiris known as 'corn mummies' packed full with grain, perhaps in remembrance of the original purpose of the pyramids - the 'Body of Osiris' - as Recovery Vaults. Given that the 'seed of life' would come forth from 'the Body of Osiris' (the early, giant pyramids), it is easy to understand how Osiris, having secured the 'rebirth' of the kingdom would, in time, become venerated, leading ultimately to his status as a god and paving the way for the Osirian burials of later Egyptian kings.

Food for thought.........

SC
edit on 25/7/2012 by Scott Creighton because: Fix typo.



reply posted on 25-7-2012 @ 08:23 AM by the2ofusr1
This is a 1 hour video that brings in information from all mystery religions and the occult on a date in 2012 for the return of Osiris/Apollyon

PHENOMENAL! TOM HORN ON THE LOST SYMBOL!

www.youtube.com...



This lecture could also be describing the anti-christ .. There seems to be no end of the connections of different cultures separated by 1000s of miles over 1000s of years ....peace



reply posted on 25-7-2012 @ 09:16 AM by Myendica
reply to post by Scott Creighton


so is it plausible to suggest that at some point in history, there was a pyramid the size of 14 pyramids combined? This is a fascinating story, and a much needed break from the usual "conspiratorial" subjects. Thank you.


reply posted on 25-7-2012 @ 12:11 PM by WiseThinker
reply to post by ElohimJD


Wow, thank you, i never would have connected Ishtar to Semiramis, but yes, no doubt its the same entity (lets keep it at that ).

I think however, i may have found another name used for her in the biblical times:

Sofia the agnostic goddess of knowledge.

and i may even have found another link to a deity being openly worshiped today.

Namaste.


reply posted on 25-7-2012 @ 07:13 PM by IEtherianSoul9
reply to post by Scott Creighton


I think Osiris might of actually been a real person that was later deified after his death, similar to Imhotep.

Greek historian Diodorus Siculus during 60 BC made this statement:


"They [the Ethiopians] say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods"] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws."


How much of this is truth, I'm not exactly sure.


reply posted on 25-7-2012 @ 08:19 PM by troubleshooter
reply to post by Scott Creighton

In The Revelation Osiris who is called Abaddon in Hebrew and Apollyon by the Greek's...
...is referred to as the 'king of the bottomless pit' (see Revelation 9:11)


reply posted on 25-7-2012 @ 09:09 PM by AussieAmandaC
Isis was called the "Black One" because of her association with fate and the mysteries of death. The ancient name for Egypt was "Kemi," which translates "Black Earth." The Arabs called Egypt "Al-Kemi" and the ancient art of alchemy practiced in the ancient Near East and medieval Europe was probably derived from this name. Carl Jung describes the blackness of Isis and in this passage, relates her identity to Sophia: The cognomen of Isis was . . .the Black One. Apuleius stresses the blackness of her robe . . . and since ancient times she was reputed to possess the elixir of life as well as being adept in sundry magical arts. She was also called the Old One, and she was rated a pupil of Hermes, or even his daughter. She appears as a teacher of alchemy . . . She signifies earth, according to Firmicus Maternus, and was equated with Sophia . . . She is . . . the vessel and the matter of good and evil. She is the moon . . ."the One, who art All." (Carl Jung, Collected Works Vol.14, 14-15) The wisdom of Isis contains the creator god in the sense that the gods come into power, wane, and die. Isis is the knowledge that the god doesn't know: that his source is his own people and ancestors that projected him into existence as the symbol of the creative power of life. Without the life of nature that flows as the life force within the individuals of his kingdom, he would not be. When he loses power, the Queen of life has to remind him whom he serves and from whence he derives his power: the human, natural world. Isis' wisdom is natural magic. She performs her tricks much like a shaman or witch doctor, who heal but also concoct poisons. Isis makes the poison and she holds the cure.


some great reading here....

Nice thread Op and I can see what you are getting at, also another poster mentioned trying to line them up with chakras, that was my first thought too....

I hope she still remembers the cure x
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