posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 11:16 PM
Originally posted by NihilistSanta
This thread has semi-devolved into 2 points of view.
1. Literal interpretation of the Bible vs Conjecture based on intuition (?).
2. Pantheism vs Christianity.
Seems to be a common occurrence in all of the religious threads. I am address the last point first. Having been a very serious student of Buddhism
before my conversion to Christianity I have to ask the pantheist what is so joyful about total dissolution of self and amalgamation into the Godhead
in such a manner that you stop being and be one with everything. Where is the you? Where is the freewill?
Let me ask you this: where is the joy in knowing that everything you do in life is predetermined?knowing that no matter what you do, you didn't make
any difference at all? That what you did was not you, but a god that planned it out before you were ever born?
Where is the joy in knowing that every moment of your life is spent being watched by a god who judges everything you do? Ready to send you to eternal
torture on a whim of a thought?
Where is the joy in thinking that nothing you do in life really matters or counts, other than worshipping your god? That nothing you did was ever your
doing, only gods?
Where is the joy in thinking you are somehow inferior to anything?
I am the me and you are the you, but everything is together is the it. There is still self even if you believe you are part of something bigger, why
would you think otherwise?
Where is the free will knowing that you have no free will because god has already made the decision for you long ago?
If God were everything would everything not be perfect?
If your god were perfect then why would he make such imperfect creatures as ourselves? That's two sides of the same coin right there.
What is nirvana other than death of self/ego?
My nirvana is learning something new or discovering something I've never seen before. My nirvana is living my life and experiencing its beauty and
Where is your nirvana other than what's waiting for you after this life?
If we can all find the God within how come the cities of Buddhist countries are not shining with a radiant light from all of the so called
enlightened god-men? Where are the Bodhisattvas? Shouldn't they be down here saving us all? How does that play into their quest to end their own
suffering through desire? If they will anything it stems from desire.
For the same reason your god does not come down and save us all probably.
Does god not desire for us to believe in him? Why is desire such a bad thing even though you desire good?
The journey to enlightenment is doomed to failure from the beginning because it is born of desire. Buddhism is ultimately very fatalistic and
bordeline nihilism in my experience.
So its better yo just sit back and take everyones word for it? Enlightenment is not a desire, it is the result of the desire for truth. If it is a sin
to desire what should rightfully be ours, then I guess I'm the biggest sinner around and I'm proud of it.