Christians... riddle me this!, page 6


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reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 04:53 PM by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by shogun12



Hell is not 'eternity' away from god, that's impossible in my opinion.

God is nature, the universe, and the universe is his kingdom. If this is not the kingdom of god, then what is it?

The bible says that when you turn away from god, you are cast into hell. Humans turned away from god centuries ago by cutting down the forests of Earth and polluting its waters and taking advantage of everything, all for an extra buck.

When humans turned their back to god and started to destroy nature for their own profit, Earth turned into hell.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 06:09 PM by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to
post by shogun12



Hell is not 'eternity' away from god, that's impossible in my opinion.

God is nature, the universe, and the universe is his kingdom. If this is not the kingdom of god, then what is it?

The bible says that when you turn away from god, you are cast into hell. Humans turned away from god centuries ago by cutting down the forests of Earth and polluting its waters and taking advantage of everything, all for an extra buck.

When humans turned their back to god and started to destroy nature for their own profit, Earth turned into hell.


That would be Pantheism.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 06:13 PM by NOTurTypical
reply to post by GoldenRuled



You do realize I only said what Jesus Himself said as to why He spoke in parables when His apostles asked Him? To hide truth, not to make it easier to understand? So you're not really arguing with me, but with Christ Himself.



reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 06:22 PM by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by NOTurTypical



And your point is? I don't label myself as anything but if you must label me then yes, I am a 'pantheist'.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 06:24 PM by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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post by NOTurTypical



And your point is? I don't label myself as anything but if you must label me then yes, I am a 'pantheist'.


You can believe whatever you wish, it's your life. Pantheism is an unBiblical Theology Proper.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 06:35 PM by Fatscrilla
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to
post by borntowatch





That works too! I love hot chocolate!

As long as theres beer...

Why so serious?



edit on 25-7-2012 by Akragon because: (no reason given)


I really believe you are just passing time. You don't really want to know the answer to the question at hand. After all, "why so serious"? Are you not wanting a serious response? I believe that we can't imagine what heaven would be like, as we are living an earthly life - with sin all around. I believe that words can't explain heaven. I know it will be beautiful!


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 06:38 PM by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by NOTurTypical



Yet the bible is how I came to my conclusion.

You refuse to see the obvious, you'd rather keep going along with the status quo. It's a shame really, because you will live out your life believing that this is not heaven when it really is.

That kind of mentality is what has caused the destruction of Earth, people believing their is something 'better' after this life, and as long as you believe in Jesus you will get to this 'better' place.

Since there is something 'better', why worry about what happens to this 'inferior' planet? That is the mentality that religion has instilled on billions.

You may hate religion but you still believe in what it teaches without ever questioning it.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:06 PM by AfterInfinity
reply to post by knightwhosaysnih



Originally posted by knightwhosaysnih
Originally posted by borntowatch
Riddle me this? What? Are you like 13 years old and reading batman comics.
What is in your head to say "riddle me this" as a question to other adults.


Yeah I have to agree with this guy, your OP subject of "riddle me this..." was uncalled for, as in the OP you say you're not making fun, but you come off as aggressive and passionate about the topic. You won't get serious answers to a question that is not serious.


It's a catchy intro to an interesting subject.

Now, please pull the crab out of your sphincter.
edit on 26-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:11 PM by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to
post by NOTurTypical



What do you mean by that?


UnBiblical means against or contrary to what the Bible declares.



reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:15 PM by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to
post by NOTurTypical



Yet the bible is how I came to my conclusion.

You refuse to see the obvious, you'd rather keep going along with the status quo. It's a shame really, because you will live out your life believing that this is not heaven when it really is.

That kind of mentality is what has caused the destruction of Earth, people believing their is something 'better' after this life, and as long as you believe in Jesus you will get to this 'better' place.

Since there is something 'better', why worry about what happens to this 'inferior' planet? That is the mentality that religion has instilled on billions.

You may hate religion but you still believe in what it teaches without ever questioning it.



That's absolutely not what the Bible teaches. It teaches that God is transcendent above His creation. Pantheism has nothing to do with Christianity or Judaism.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:16 PM by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical



Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical



What do you mean by that?


UnBiblical means against or contrary to what the Bible declares.


The enemy of my enemy is my friend, they say...
edit on 26-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:17 PM by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by NOTurTypical



It's not contrary to what the bible says. It might be contrary to what the popular interpretation is but not the bible.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:20 PM by AfterInfinity
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1



I think the confusion and controversy here stems from the fact that no one knows what the Bible actually means.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:21 PM by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by NOTurTypical



Yes, god does transcend his creation. It transcends our understanding, just like the universe.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:36 PM by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by AfterInfinity



True, but if you look at it non-biased you will start yo find that truth within it. I believe my interpretation is the correct one, just as they think theirs is, the only difference is my interpretation is based on reality, not fantasy.


reply posted on 26-7-2012 @ 07:39 PM by AQuestion
reply to post by knightwhosaysnih



Dear knightswhosaysnih,

Akragon was attempting to be amusing as is usually the case. In fact, I had originally used the title in regards to non-believers quite awhile ago and part of his use of the title may have been as a friendly jab at me. It is a reference to the old tv show Batman because it was what the Riddler (not the Joker) used to say. Basically, it means put your thinking caps on because I am presenting you with a deeper question than you are accustomed to. Personally, I believe that Akragon does not make fun of people's religions, he makes fun of religious people who either don't know their bible or their belief sets and say things contrary to their own bibles teachings. Alas poor Akragon, I knew him well, a fellow of infinite jest. That might explain why he uses the Cheshire Cat as his avatar. Peace.
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