Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by adjensen
Yes, the ten commandments represent the absolute moral standard, regardless of the times. God himself chooses to ignore 'thou shalt not kill' by
killing so many. If god is the absolute moral standard, he has a funny way of showing it.
Okay, great, we both agree that there must be an absolute morality, in order for us to cast our aspersions on the Spartans for enslaving children.
However, I'm going to wipe away that stuff about the Ten Commandments and God there, because you're getting ahead of yourself.
Now, there are only two more questions to get to your answer, but I want you to do me a favour and NOT answer the next one until you've thought it
through, at least for an hour or two, because if you come to a superficial answer to this one, you'll necessarily have a superficial answer to the
last question, which answers your original question.
And don't let me, or a book, or some other external source provide you with an answer -- consider yourself a modern day Plato, alone with your
thoughts, and just try and reason through this question.
If, as you and I agree, there is an absolute morality, by which we can evaluate the morals of any time and any society, at least on the "big ticket"
issues, like killing babies, we can conclude that this morality must be:
1) Everlasting, meaning it existed in the time of the Spartans, just as it does today, and will in a million years
2) Unchanging, meaning that it was the same in the past as it is today, and as it will be in the future
3) Objective, meaning that it isn't open to interpretation (again, on major issues)
4) Comprehensible, meaning that it is clear and obvious for those who look for it, "inherent" might be a good word to use
Those are some value statements that are appropriate for something we view as being absolute. Essentially, it means that it isn't subject to the
whim of a person or society at large.
So the question then becomes, what is the source of that absolute morality? And, again, try and avoid an immediate response, but think it through.