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Christians... riddle me this!

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by Milkflavour

No 'thing' can be known without the presence that I am. I am that I am.


I'm a sailor man!

(sorry, I'll stop now...)

Also, apologies to those who I wrongly accused of being Christians


Terrible mistake on my part...
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The clever mind is distracting you from the truth. The mind will not let you hear any of the truths that are being spoken because it knows that it will lose it's place as your master, a new king will be crowned instead.
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by SisyphusRide
 


I believe in reincarnation, Jesus even hints at this possibility within the bible. I do not believe in nothingness and blackness, those who do are just as naive as religious people in my opinion.



don't get caught up in all the3 trying to be cool hoopla... dissing any religion is kinda childish actually. I really wish people would start attacking the religions which actually do real-time damage and impose total human rights disasters such as islam (being a part of monotheism or not) Islam treats their women like cattle and they are living in the dark ages still... yet Christianity has to be attacked relentlessly... it makes absolutely no sense.

just remember... "its better to believe" when one values the life they have then they value the lives of others, in its own way it keeps people from walking into establishments and opening fire on people they don't even know.

kinda makes one wonder why all these incidents keep happening? imo it is the relentless attack on rehashed drivel that keeps comingout of the mouths of people like richard dawkins (who really needs to watch his caboose)




posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Stop believing and find out the truth. Look to the only thing you know for sure. Find the one thing that cannot be negated and contemplate that.
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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one takes God out of the equation which pretty much grants independence and freedom to all men and women alike then you will have the state being your God (take a look at liberal England) its really sad all this crap is coming from British and Canadians.

people attacking christianity are basically saying to me they want the state to run every aspect of their lives... and I'd love to break Richard Dawkins' nose (christian or not) I blame Richard Dawkins for the Colorado shootings and many more... I'd just love to meet that little sissy
he better be careful because there are people who will act on their intentions.

he endangers his life to sell books... not very wise for failing at being a father.
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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If that's the case then I was born trapped into this system.

I do not conform to any religion, including Christendom.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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Born into the matrix, a prison called your mind. Step outside the matix (the mind) and watch it, it is just part of the scenery.
There is scenery and there is the seer and knower of the scene.
The scenery and seer is consciousness, Christ. The ultimate seer is God, all seeing, all knowing and everpresent.
Look for the seer.
Can the seer be seen?
youtu.be...
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:07 AM
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You blaming Richard Daemons for the shooting is like an atheist blaming a christian for it. You are spewing complete and total ignorance right now.

I care for everyone as I care for myself, equally. I do not see myself as superior to anyone or anything but at the same time I do not feel inferior to anyone or anything. If christianity is lying to its followers then yes, I will attack them. I am familiar with Christianity, not Islam, that is why I choose to point out why Christianity is wrong, because that is the religion I am familiar with. If someone more familiar with Islam wants to attack it head-on, that is their right because they are the one familiar with it.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by SisyphusRide
 


If that's the case then I was born trapped into this system.

I do not conform to any religion, including Christendom.


my religion is Heavy Metal... I conform to it and practice it and exhort energy to it. Does it take away my belief in God? no it doesn't.

religion and faith are wholly two different things.

there is no escaping who you are, it is embedded in the very language you speak (as promised) at birth Gods word was planted like a seed in your mind... Everything you know and do and say and think come from the God of the bible, like it or not you will never unravel it even if you try to convert or accept a different religion or other. It is who you are and who all english speaking peoples are as a whole... there is no escape... besides wou;ld you rather be living about 600 years out of date and in the dirt because there has been no advancement of your language?

God has created everyone equal and has granted everyone complete freedom independently... why take that away? *so the state can control every aspect of ones lives?)

not very smart imo...



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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Yes, I understand all of that. I know most people do not understand because they do not have an open mind but I completely understand where you're coming from. No need to preach to me.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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God painted what is before you not in symbols but in sound and sight. See and hear Gods creation - it is here now.
Mans words are what ruin Gods creation. Man stamps a word on what he sees and stories grow like trees and forests and hide the truth.
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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You blaming Richard Daemons for the shooting is like an atheist blaming a christian for it


why not? it makes perfect sense to me... it's like the butterfly effect... everyone is repeating what richard dawkins says like a broken record. He is the highest authority in atheism and he is dangerous. Richard is like a little mini Hitler why do you think his wife left him and placed their daughter in a Catholic school? is it becoming clearer his vendetta now? If richard dawkins comitted mass murder the very words and diagnosis I give would come out because it is only logical. Richard Dawkins is a mass murderer (indirectly) just like Hitler.

richard is a failure at being a father, its clear as day... besides being the gigantic sissy that most british men are

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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When have I stated anywhere that I do not believe in a god? You are assuming without knowing. I believe the universe is god, that our consciousness is god, that we are god.

If god is all of us then we are all god, you just admitted it in this post. Thank you for supporting my claims.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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All humans want to reincarnate.

Hmmm.......
Nope, I don't agree. There are lots of people who just want it to be over with and never, ever come back. Fact is, they probably will reincarnate, and insofar as I understand your points (which I do, they are the Tao/Buddhist position) -- the Taoists and Buddhists definitely believe in reincarnation.

I know I am still flawed, and I understand what lessons I've come this time to work through. I have been facing my own weaknesses and mistakes in this go-round, with very unhappy results from time to time, and other times victorious in sorting things out, in "passing the test." (Lots of remedial classes, but I finally got it!).

In fact, just lately, I've been having dreams that seem to "wrap up" what ongoing baggage I've carried around...which I won't go into here, but much thought has indicated to me that I have grown and let go of some of the things that got me stuck...
so...I'm pretty sure I'll be back again, because I certainly haven't got it all together yet, but life is fascinating. I see it as a lesson, a class-room. Until we get to the highest level classes, having passed the lower, we will keep coming back, revisiting those issues. Eventually, we become ready to resume our place with the Divine in the ethereal plane.

Then we can choose to return as a helper (a la those men like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna), to be a "tool" for the learning of others, OR to be a "teacher" of things. But that is a voluntary decision... (so is the role we contract in between lifetimes to carry out is voluntary, but coming back to do it is mandatory - until we get it. THEN we can choose to come back OR NOT).


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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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WHATEVER, that is the most ignorant and bigoted thing I have EVER heard. Get over yourself. You are exactly what's wrong with the world today. You judge others without even understanding them. You don't understand what Dawkins meant so you label him a murderer.

Excuse my language, but that is complete and utter BULL#.
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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When have I stated anywhere that I do not believe in a god? You are assuming without knowing. I believe the universe is god, that our consciousness is god, that we are god.

If god is all of us then we are all god, you just admitted it in this post. Thank you for supporting my claims.


the universe is in the mind of God like a thought... I don't believe I ever said you do not believe? I just stated it is better to believe.

don't get on the bashing or anti kick just because it makes you look cool because everyone else is saying it...

contrary to popular belief... it is not cool, and these atheist type folks are going to really start to pop up on big brothers radar because of all the mass killings taking place.

do you believe the colorado shooter believed in God and valued his fellow humans lives?

thank you Richard Dawkins for your legacy...



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by SisyphusRide
 


WHATEVER, that is the most ignorant and bigoted thing I have EVER heard. Get over yourself. You are exactly what's wrong with the world today. You judge others without even understanding them. You don't understand what Dawkins meant so you label him a murderer.

Excuse my language, but that is complete and utter BULL#.
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lol?

troll



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:25 AM
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don't get on the bashing or anti kick just because it makes you look cool because everyone else is saying it...

contrary to popular belief... it is not cool,

Whoa....Foul.
He is not a troll, and he has his head on straight, and I for one am very, very pleased to see it.
The "bashing or anti kick" is not a contrived "look at me, I'm cool," it's people waking up, realizing we've all been duped and lied to, and that the establishment wants us to stay that way.

And btw, Heavy Metal is, in my opinion, a very ugly noise.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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I am done with you, you are obviously completely delusional or a troll or both.

Get off your high horse. Even if the guy didn't believe in god, that is not the reason he did what he did, if you think so then you are completely off your rocker.

More wars and killing has been done in the name of 'god' than anything else, that is a FACT. Now please close your ignorant mouth? You are the type of person I least like in this world so excuse me if I seem to be rude but what you say is even ruder.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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You think you are flawed and need to learn lessons to become what?
You are already complete here and now. There is no other time, everything is here now, it is complete.
You cannot separate yourself from this moment, it is one, it is complete. It is all there is.

Religion tells everyone they are bad until they learn to be good. 'Be good' is the religion most believe. 'Be good' means there must be bad and i don't want to be that. Believing that you are bad is judging yourself, if you judge, thou shall be judged. Unconditional love starts with you. To be looking to be better means you deny what is real, you deny God.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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I am not "THE" Christ. I just explained the significance of the definite article "the" (hu) in Greek. It signifies a specific unique one, different from any and all others. Jesus is THE Christ, "Hu Christos".


Your explanation explains nothing.
Have you found God?

There is no 'other'. 'This' right here and right now is all there is. 'This moment' is Christ and through this moment God can be found.
Humans look elsewhere for God when there is no elsewhere.

'This moment' is unique in that it is the only real, it is the only truth. Any thing else is mind made (imaginings/thought). Christ is this moment of reality.
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Sure, my explanation means "nothing".. it's only basic koine Greek. Before you further insult someone about a foreign language do a simple study of the significance of using the definite article "hu" in the koine Greek language.



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