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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by BlueMule
Spirituality is great. Christianity, what it has done so far, not so much.
Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by EnochWasRight
I think what you meant, EnochWasRight, is that all we have to validate your God is the Old and New Testament. And neither of those can be trusted as a historical record of anything, as they are not chronologically correct, and have no other records to back up any of the stories.
I see you did post a lot of quotes from your book, in an effort to make it seem real, I suppose? How about doing a little research on the origins of the Bible, it's stories, and who and what your Gods are? While you are at it, look up these links:
How Christian Mind Control Works
Is Christianity a cult?
Born Again Brainwashing
The book stands on its own.
Originally posted by Openeye
reply to post by EnochWasRight
The book stands on its own.
No it doesn't, you are simply asserting that it does based on your faith.
If it did, the truth would be all but revealed to us, not just to the chosen. That is why the deception is such a big part of the Christian faith, because without it all other arguments against the faith are justifiable.
There are a slew of other holy books that disagree with the Christian Bible, and a plethora of books which came before it which have their own brand of truth.
And you still haven't answered my question...
Why has God not answered my prayers?edit on 24-7-2012 by Openeye because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
The best question you can answer is this: Where is the root? Jacob has it, and it is sealed in the symbolism. All other religions and schools of wisdom are cut from the root.
You said fundamentalism is the false prophet. This is painting with a broad brush. Prejudice can only tag someone with a name and then hate the name. We are all individuals. Prejudice is what it is, no matter how we justify it.
The two basic types of religions:
One way to view world religions is to divide them into two groups: "top-down" and "bottom-up" faiths:
A top-down religion is one in which God has revealed himself to humanity. Typically, this type of religion teaches that God created humanity, the world, the solar system, and the rest of the universe. He gave humans a moral and legal code, and has communicated his expectations of humanity to us. God is normally considered all powerful, all knowing and all good (omnipotent, omniscient and omnibeneficient), and without error. Many top-down religions teach that God either dictated their holy book, or communicated its contents through an intermediary, or inspired its writers to write error-free text.
A bottom-up religion is one created solely by humans. The founders attempt to describe their best impression of what God might be like. Their descriptions of the origins of animal species, the Earth itself and the rest of the universe reflect their level of scientific knowledge. In the case of ancient religions, this might be quite limited. Their moral and legal codes tend to follow the values of their own culture, which is often tribal in nature. They attribute these laws to God in order to pressure their fellow believers in to accepting them. The authors invent some form of life after death, which may take the form of eternal life in a Heaven, Paradise, Purgatory, Hell, Limbo, etc. Alternatively, it might involve reincarnation -- returning to Earth after death to experience additional lifetimes. Holy texts of bottom-up religions show a gradual evolution of religious and spiritual thought when their oldest writings are compared to the newest texts.
Many, perhaps most, people view their own religion as the only top-down religion in the world. They believe that their God is the only deity in existence. Their God created humans and the universe, and gave humanity its only valid moral codes. Their fellow believers are often believed to be the only people who are assured of salvation and eternal life in Heaven or Paradise. Those of other faiths have no such certainty of an afterlife. Knowing that their religion is true and that other religions are in various degrees of error, it can become difficult to extend religious freedom to persons of other faiths. Some top-down believers accept the Golden Rule, but apply it mainly to fellow believers, to the exclusion of followers of other faiths.
Followers of the only top-down religion often consider all other religions to be bottom-up faiths -- ones that teach false Gods and a false moral code. These other Gods are created by humans rather than vice-versa. Their Gods may even be considered as demons. These bottom-up faiths are seen as leading their membership down a trail of destruction. They are often viewed as having a negative affect on society.