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Originally posted by BurningSpearess
reply to post by bowtomonkey
Flashback: Norway...A year ago...
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Reply to post by TKDRL
Are you serious? The majority of homocides in the US resulted from use of a firearm. Accidental deaths because of firearms are also pretty high. Guns need to have stricter laws surrounding who can have them.
Even without that though, if gun violence is not a big deal then why do you support people running out and buying guns to 'protect' themselves? I mean gun violence isnt a problem so why do you need one?
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Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by acmpnsfal
Out of like 300 million guns in the US....... The crimes vs. the number of people that own guns are less than 1%......
Why should sweeping laws should be written, because of an innate fear of less than 1% of the population? People act as if there is a massive shooting every other week in the US or something.edit on Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:11:58 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)
Oh and by the way gun owners do not have to go through training nor do they have to get a license to purchase a gun. Also they are not being screened. So any one of those people buying a gun could go psycho tomorrow.
Originally posted by phroziac
Anyway if i woulda been there this guy would be dead now.edit on 24-7-2012 by phroziac because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Reply to post by magma
LOL, you people are ridiculous. When a flu pandemic starts and people rush to get vaccines you call them stupid. Some random act of violence happens, people rush to get guns and you applaud them. Zero logic.
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Originally posted by Cosmic911
reply to post by acmpnsfal
There isn't one sentence in the post I quoted this is 100% true. What you stated about screenings is completely false. Now, there is great variety in the vetting process between the states, that is true. There is also a great difference between purchasing a handgun and long gun in most states. Regardless, a FBI background check is performed each time a weapon is purchased, handgun or long gun, in each state. That is federal law.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by acmpnsfal
Yet those "heavily regulated" non weapons seem to kill more, and to boot, there are more guns in the US than cars.
In 2003, 42,643 people were killed in auto accidents. 30,136 were killed by guns, counting suicides, which made up more than half that number(16,907).
My whole point, is asking if I would suddenly fear a tool because one killed someone I knew is a stupid concept altogether!
I knew one guy shot and killed, no I still don't have an irrational fear of guns. I know numerous people killed in car wrecks, and hit as pedestrians, and no I don't irrationally fear cars. Get the point?edit on Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:22:02 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by star in a jar
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Reply to post by magma
LOL, you people are ridiculous. When a flu pandemic starts and people rush to get vaccines you call them stupid. Some random act of violence happens, people rush to get guns and you applaud them. Zero logic.
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Also, flu vaccines do not work.
so, where were you when i needed to discharge my firearm and disable an intruder?
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Reply to post by TKDRL
Eh, well if less than one percent of the population is using a weapon that causes the majority of murders in the country clearly something needs to be done. A good number of gun homocides are gang related but certainly not all. Most accidental deaths by guns do not happen in cities and a lot of people still die from that. You could also factor in suicides and the number of deaths would be even higher. Anyway, you cant give me a justification for why anyone needs a gun for protection. Simple answer, they dont.
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yep, about 63rd ... just discussed it in another thread. need the link?
Originally posted by bowtomonkey
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by acmpnsfal
Out of like 300 million guns in the US....... The crimes vs. the number of people that own guns are less than 1%......
Why should sweeping laws should be written, because of an innate fear of less than 1% of the population? People act as if there is a massive shooting every other week in the US or something.edit on Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:11:58 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)
because in countries with rational gun laws the rate of murder is 100 x less
Do you know what the murder rate in America is and where it is placed compared to most other 1st world countries?
Wish we didn't have to deal with all this American BS propaganda.
Deny ignorance anyone??
ALL THESE ARE DEATHS PER YEAR:
12,000 -- unnecessary surgery
7,000 -- medication errors in hospitals
20,000 -- other errors in hospitals
80,000 -- infections in hospitals
106,000 -- non-error, negative effects of drugs