Holmes had TWO roommates! EVIDENCE that MSM is rewriting the official story before our eyes!!!

Originally posted by tluna1
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

I agree, why did he send it to a phyciatirst? why was the first package suspicous, then it was ok but they searched for more ? kinda strange.

ps AND it sat untill the police found it? it was there since around July 12? thats a dang long time for mail to sit around.

edit on 25-7-2012 by tluna1 because: added more

He is a sociopath who was failing at all his works, even close to eviction. I could see him sending it in order to add evidence for an insanity plea later on-he still thinks he can win afterall.

reply to post by ZiggyMojo


OK, let go to your sources from the bottom up.

Start here: thewolfweb.com...

It is re-broadcaster of unfiltered news. An ad-click inspired message board. There is no fact checking going on here. And the host admits he's had his third child and has no time anymore for this site.

Next here: www.eggdonor.com...

This goes without saying, this site uses news stories to drive traffic for business and ads. There is absolutely no fact checking going on here.

The Source: www.christianpost.com...

Yes, a real media outlet but horribly bent toward Christian values. I'll go out on a limb here from experience, but they're not attracting top journalism talent over there, namely because they have a "Statement of Faith" they must follow to work for this organization. What I'm saying is, no journalist in their right mind would work there as pay is dirt, there is mandatory values system that must be followed, and there's no career path from there. So they have sub-par journalists.

MSNBC backed away from this story not only because the facts were wrong, but because this site is run by the Evangelical Press Association. In other words, extremist Christians. (For fun go to the link, try to find out who owns this site and why. That info doesn't exist easily, but they're hiring journalists and editors when no one else is in the business, which tells me what a bad job this is: www.epassoc.org...).

As for meticulously correcting other facts. That's normal when the facts are mostly true but in error, not outright falsities such as two roommates.

This can Only be a set up.

the best way to record a web page is to
click File at the top left.
then click save page.
it save all of it. and put it in a separate folder.
you can view it off line to.
and copy all the pictures even protected ones.

Originally posted by new_here

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Police and FBI agents were called to the University of Colorado Anschutz medical campus in Aurora on Monday morning after the psychiatrist, who is also a professor at the school, reported receiving a package believed to be from the suspect. Although that package turned out to be from someone else and harmless, a search of the Campus Services' mailroom turned up another package sent to the psychiatrist with Holmes’ name in the return address, the source told FoxNews.com.

Having a hard time understanding that the psychiatrist called FBI about a suspicious package, but it was a false alarm, but they searched the mailroom and magically found one from him.

Huh? Just... just... HuH???

edit on 7/25/2012 by new_here because: (no reason given)

reply to post by lordtyp0


I have to disagree with the assumption that all you have to do is memorize stuff. Programs especially those in Neuroscience require you to be able to answer questions in terms of real world scenarios. They offer you open ended questions with a plethora of ways to approach them, but only a few answers would be considered "correct". It does however sound like he failed an oral examination of this type.. But that examination would have occurred after he had already begun his plans.. I'm under the impression that he was failing his program because he had already given up on it, knowing what his plans were. Of course that is speculation, but it makes more sense to me.

reply to post by lordtyp0


There are also plenty of people out there with doctorates that are far from being a dolt. May I ask you what your doctorate is in if it is so easy to obtain one?

It's public record so anyone could find out if they really wanted to, right?
Let me know if you do!

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

EXCLUSIVE: Movie massacre suspect sent chilling notebook to psychiatrist before attack

Read more: www.foxnews.com...

– James Holmes, the accused gunman in last Friday's midnight movie massacre in Colorado, mailed a notebook "full of details about how he was going to kill people" to a University of Colorado psychiatrist before the attack, but the parcel sat unopened in a mailroom for as long as a week before its discovery Monday, a law enforcement source told FoxNews.com.

Police and FBI agents were called to the University of Colorado Anschutz medical campus in Aurora on Monday morning after the psychiatrist, who is also a professor at the school, reported receiving a package believed to be from the suspect. Although that package turned out to be from someone else and harmless, a search of the Campus Services' mailroom turned up another package sent to the psychiatrist with Holmes’ name in the return address, the source told FoxNews.com.

A second law enforcement source said authorities got a warrant from a county judge and took the package away Monday night. When it was opened, its chilling contents were revealed.

“There were drawings of what he was going to do in it--drawings and illustrations of the massacre."

- Law enorcement source

“Inside the package was a notebook full of details about how he was going to kill people,” the source told FoxNews.com. “There were drawings of what he was going to do in it - drawings and illustrations of the massacre."

I do not believe....
that....
for....
one....
second..........


How ultra convenient.
If they didn't find gun powder residue on his hands or have a lack of physical evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that he was the man behind the gas mask, then I think this whole "Hey-look-here's-a-notebook-we-found-in-the-mailroom- confessing-the-whole-thing-complete-with-drawings-just-in-case-a-written-confession-wasn't-enough"
would be obvious BS.

But, that's just my conspiratorial opinion.

Though I must admit, I actually guffawed when I first read the above news story. I'm pretty sure I threw an eye-roll in there too...

WOW. Insure this isn't the first time. I bet the media changes a lot of stories and newspapers to there advantages.
Thanks OP. You ave opened my eyes even more.

reply to post by Staroth


They probably could have shortly after the shootings happen but I would assume that now much of this information has been blocked or "sealed" by authorities because of the case. Which isn't really uncommon, but it doesn't allow us to see what was seen originally to produce the information..

Again, this isn't really a matter of whether he really did or didn't have roommates. I'm not trying to solve the crimes Holmes committed.. But I am trying to figure out why the media can abruptly delete or remove data already published without a legitimate explanation. Also showing everyone that may not have believed that they are lied to by the MSM that it is extremely easy for them to make information disappear or produce a story in a different light.

Perhaps what I fear most is that in ten or twenty years this whole story will be remembered as something totally different because facts can simply vanish. How many other events do you think suffer this same fate or will? I don't think it's out of the question to assume that much of what we think is history has already been altered and will forever remain that way.

Originally posted by ZiggyMojo
reply to post by lordtyp0

 

I have to disagree with the assumption that all you have to do is memorize stuff. Programs especially those in Neuroscience require you to be able to answer questions in terms of real world scenarios. They offer you open ended questions with a plethora of ways to approach them, but only a few answers would be considered "correct". It does however sound like he failed an oral examination of this type.. But that examination would have occurred after he had already begun his plans.. I'm under the impression that he was failing his program because he had already given up on it, knowing what his plans were. Of course that is speculation, but it makes more sense to me.

Yep, and again-he was failing his neuro program
He withdrew before they failed him. Nothing is indicating he gave up on it. According to his intern guy he would simply not complete projects, are argumentative, had mediocre grades (his high school was an Alternative Education program for students failing in the normal school system btw)... He was not bright or brilliant.

Everyone with study could make a masters or higher.

Here's a few respectable media outlets that didn't scrub the shoddy two roommates reporting.

From Bell Media, Canada's news source:

The Denver Post reports that Holmes lived in an apartment not far from the movie theatre. According to the paper, public records show that Holmes lived with two roommates from California. Holmes described himself as "quiet and easy-going” on the rental application form he filled out last year, The Post reports

Link: www.ctvnews.ca...

Here's another from NBC News

Public records indicate that Holmes lived with two roommates, also from California, in the Aurora building where police have found explosives, at 1690 Paris St., Apt. 10. The building is reserved for students, faculty and staff from the medical campus.

Link: www.nbc26.com...

From the London Free Press, another good source:

MSNBC reports that public records show Holmes lived with two roommates at the apartment, which is reserved for students, faculty and staff from the medical campus.

Link: www.lfpress.com...

Here is the Denver Post article that was scrubbed: www.denverpost.com... .denverpost.com

Here's the MSBC article that was scrubbed: usnews.msnbc.msn.com...

Your issue is with MSNNC and the Denver Post getting bad information from the Christian Post website and all three scrubbing it away. Again, lazy reporting.

Originally posted by cheezydik
reply to post by lordtyp0

 

There are also plenty of people out there with doctorates that are far from being a dolt. May I ask you what your doctorate is in if it is so easy to obtain one?

You are mistaken in what I said. I did not say or infer all were. I am saying that the bar has been lowered due to schools wanting to crank in tuition fees. Anything with study can make it far in academics. I have even seen doctorate level people pump diesel fuel into a car by mistake and then use "I am not that stupid, I have a PhD!".

Simple fact is, everyone has stupid moments, likewise, everyone can excel at times. The path to a Masters and PhD just requires money and determination.

Originally posted by CloseEncounter
And this couldn't be chalked up as a simple reporting mistake?

I don't get all the conspiracies surrounding this. Why would the police have not taken the shooter out to prevent him from talking?

Does not make sense.

What good is a dead man? Never ever take your eye off the magician's other hand!

If he was dead there would be half as many post get it?

reply to post by ZiggyMojo


Public records are not reliable. I just did a check on myself to see what came up. I'm listed at at least 4 different addresses and shown still cohabitating with ex-wives or girlfriends I had when at those addresses. They don't merge the "me's" together either that I see.

Originally posted by lordtyp0

Originally posted by tluna1
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

I agree, why did he send it to a phyciatirst? why was the first package suspicous, then it was ok but they searched for more ? kinda strange.

ps AND it sat untill the police found it? it was there since around July 12? thats a dang long time for mail to sit around.

edit on 25-7-2012 by tluna1 because: added more

He is a sociopath who was failing at all his works, even close to eviction. I could see him sending it in order to add evidence for an insanity plea later on-he still thinks he can win afterall.

You sound so certain, you should not take everything you read in the media as gospel, it's too early to tell the finite details yet, especially now that eye witness accounts are coming out that seem to contradict the official story...

I don't think anyone asked this question in this thread.

The witness stated he saw someone get a call, walk over to the door, and wedge it with his foot while signaling to another person (supposedly).

Did the person that picked up his phone have RED hair? We know that the supposed killer dyed his hair and I would imagine the hair would stick out like a sore thumb.

I read about 8-10 pages in this thread and didn't see that question asked.

reply to post by Jason88


There is nothing that says MSNBC and the Denver Post got their info from Christian Post that I found?

Again, I don't really care if he had two roommates, or what conspiracies people are cooking up regarding the shooting. I care that there is no regulation or credibility to anything that is reported. For all we know his name isn't even James Holmes. If the media can manipulate a story, make information disappear and do so without any fuss.. We are all literally and figuratively screwed.

Dismissing this as "lazy journalism" is like saying.. It's okay millions of gallons of oil spilled into the Gulf.. It's just a case of lazy engineers not putting the time into design the rig correctly. So they still have jobs? They can keep making those mistakes without ramification.. We'll all continue to suffer for it?

Perhaps innocent people are being slanted and misconstrued. They are manipulating the story with NO explanation.

What would happen if they began removing information regarding the events of 9/11. Say.. I dunno like the Pentagon being hit? How hard do you think it would be over 50 years to completely destroy the information that says the Pentagon was hit? Then in two or three generations no one would know the difference.

It's lazy to be so naive and forgiving on such circumstance. It's lazy to allow our source of information to bend and change the truth at their own will. It's a lazy approach to living a life of truth to accept that this is just what they do. It is this kind of laziness that will put us all under their thumb.

What happened to denying ignorance? You just accept that they can rewrite history and statements? What?


EDIT: This doesn't even touch on the fact that it does not make logical sense in terms of the way they have handled other falsehoods. There are probably other things that will be discredited because they vanished from the MSM sources but remain on blogs and other news outlets. Its easy for corporations like ABC, NBC, CNN and FOX to discredit everything else just because the biggest and baddest MSM outlets don't have any record left of a certain detail..

Originally posted by lordtyp0
reply to post by cheezydik

 

Yes, yes you do.
Plenty of dolts out there with doctorates.


Edit to add:
All it takes is memorizing crap from a book and putting it on paper when asked.
There are so many even PhD levels out there that nobody is really impressed anymore in the job market.

Remember: Average IQ doesnt mean you scored a 100, it means you were completely average on the bell curve and thus were marked at 100. Similarly with Unniversity programs, some you classes you can score 50% on every test and as long as more people got less than you-you get an A.

edit on 25-7-2012 by lordtyp0 because: adding bottom area

I'm an IT dropout so only just able to comment on this. BUT..... Dumb people can do an arts degree, or a drama degree or countless other pointless degrees (no offence intended to the unemployed with degrees in these fields). Neuroscience isn't entry level, the dude was a smart mofo.

The dumbest neuroscience studier would be smarter than most.

He's messed up, he's a prick, he deserves retribution for the crimes he was told to commit. But you can't call him dumb.

Originally posted by lordtyp0

Originally posted by ZiggyMojo
reply to post by lordtyp0

 

I have to disagree with the assumption that all you have to do is memorize stuff. Programs especially those in Neuroscience require you to be able to answer questions in terms of real world scenarios. They offer you open ended questions with a plethora of ways to approach them, but only a few answers would be considered "correct". It does however sound like he failed an oral examination of this type.. But that examination would have occurred after he had already begun his plans.. I'm under the impression that he was failing his program because he had already given up on it, knowing what his plans were. Of course that is speculation, but it makes more sense to me.

Yep, and again-he was failing his neuro program

He withdrew before they failed him. Nothing is indicating he gave up on it. According to his intern guy he would simply not complete projects, are argumentative, had mediocre grades (his high school was an Alternative Education program for students failing in the normal school system btw)... He was not bright or brilliant.

Everyone with study could make a masters or higher.

You seem to come across like you're selling the official story!

Have a read of this before you spout anymore of your speculations.

occupycorporatism.com...

Endlessly fascinating.
How is it that there are plenty of solid accounts regarding media deception/misinformation widely available, yet people will still stand behind those who have been found manipulating information? It makes no logical sense.

This is propaganda. There are specialists whose only task is to analyze human psychology, herd mentality and suggestibility, then implement subtle techniques to advance a particular agenda. Advertisers, governments and corporations are on an endless search to discover new and more insidious ways to sway consensus. This is nothing new, so the existence should not surprise you. But the pervasiveness at this juncture should.

I suppose it's easier to digest the scandalous and speculative gossip than it is to think about the information we are given. Continuing to ignore reality is exactly what the owners/disseminators of information want. What is fantasy? What is truth? Why is it that we are in the age of 24 hour news outlets, yet they all seem to be reading from the same press release and only seem to cover a couple of stories at any given time? Wouldn't you think that with all this time and technology they'd widen the scope? But instead, it's become narrower and narrower! Investigative journalism is sadly a rarity now, and major news outlets will lift pieces from Youtube and call it their story.

This isn't some episode of Jersey Shore! Don't we just love to sit in our comfortable chairs and judge the endless parade of celebrities and nobodies that cross the screen. Don't we just eat it up when somebody falls from grace. Don't we just adore the fantasies that media weaves and we can opine about the latest buzz, and then delete it from our memory banks as soon as the next story arrives.

I've seen MSM stories with, at best, misspellings. And at worst, intentionally misleading or false reporting, as well as manipulated or misrepresented photos. Yet, the public glazes over that to make a beeline for the juicy, unfounded, "like a movie" dramas. How is it that people who are aware of these transgressions still put their faith in media, don't question it, don't critically think about it, and even defend or excuse it?

There has been a gradual, almost imperceptible transformation from NEWS to OPINION. The mainstream is no longer about reporting factual news. It's about broadcasting opinion, airing "experts" (with no or questionable credentials) whose only job is to speculate, divide, and blame. And viewers parrot the buzzwords they hear. The speculations become truth by sheer repetition. Retractions don't even have an effect anymore, because once it's out there, it's out there, and public opinion is colored by it... true or not.

I've read a lot of comments asserting that "we just have to wait" for more information to arrive to make sense of it all. But don't you realize that confusion is part of the MO? Leaving you hanging on for some clarity is a fast and easy way to keep you hooked and distracted.

At what point does this disturbing shift from reality to fantasy tilt so far into the latter, that the public will finally decide to reject it and demand truth? When it's too late? When we don't have the clarity or freedom anymore?

What is wrong with people that they will follow blindly and marginalize those who ask questions? There are logical reasons to be uncomfortable with the story. There is already plenty of factual proof to doubt the "news" at large. Yet even a friend or family will deny facts and logic in favor of a purely emotional and speculative stance that has no substance? It's amazing! The gatekeepers and designers of information are infinitely powerful. Those who control information have the power. They can start wars, ruin a reputation, win an election, win consumers, revise history, alter consensus, deter, distract, disengage, lift someone up, tear someone down, make something false, true... make something bad, good. Make you believe that it's all for the benefit of humankind. And most will just gladly forfeit their will, their freedom and their reason.

The third reich didn't happen overnight. It didn't even happen within years. It took decades. And the shifts were ever so subtle, that much of Germany, let alone the rest of the world, had no clue what was going on. People look back and think, "how on earth was it possible to influence and even alter the beliefs of so many people? Didn't they see it coming?" NO. It was a gradual process implemented by specialists who knew how to use psychology and human behavior to their great advantage.