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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Originally posted by nunyadammm
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Mail is a photo ID?
Under the laws of the State of Texas and for purposes of Identification at a polling place, yes.
Originally posted by Honor93
from my understanding, citizens who are not registered to vote may not cast one.
(this may differ state to state)
but, if registering is required to cast a vote, why do we need additional verifications to participate ?
Originally posted by nunyadammm
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Originally posted by nunyadammm
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Mail is a photo ID?
Under the laws of the State of Texas and for purposes of Identification at a polling place, yes.
I do not think you read what you responded to.
Mail is not a photo ID.
Not even in Texas.
But at least you are barely paying attention to what you pretend matters so much.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well... I did read what you said. You do make your jabs at people so succinct, it's hard not to see them. I also posted the direct *LAW* from the state of Texas and the link is to their STATE SITE. No.... Mail is NOT a photo ID.
of course the innocent citizen will have "forgotten" their reg card , but they should still be listed on the voter rolls and be easily identified.
When I'd asked, he'd specifically said the photo ID is NOT to be looked at unless someone has no Registration card.
not sure why you Replied to me specifically as i assure you i vote regularly and probably for more years than you are old.
It is obvious most people on ATS have never voted. Those are the ones that think illegal aliens can come and ask to vote in Spanish and they just get to vote because they asked if they could. None of this combats the real voter fraud and will not deter anyone but it makes ignorant right wingers feel good.
Originally posted by Honor93
not sure why you Replied to me specifically as i assure you i vote regularly and probably for more years than you are old.
i also have voted for decades in one of the few states where voter fraud has been proven and prosecuted. it happens ... and more often than not.
who said anything about spanish ??
non-registered doesn't automatically mean illegal, however, the Tx rule posted does explicitly make it easier for illegals to cast a vote whether registered or not.
i agree that none of this is going to deter fraudulent voting, it's aimed at increasing it with less detection.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
i've never seen a MCC, i had to look that one up ... interesting.
Originally posted by Common Good
We all know this isnt about ID, its all about getting those illegal votes. End of story.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
It really isn't partisan to me..and we'll still need this law after the election as much as we do now if it has to come after just to make the point that it's not Obama related. I think it's just about making sure our Nation isn't a total laughing stock for requiring nothing more than a utility bill and no photo of any kind? (I DID see some examples where states make their Voter card with a picture on it. We aren't one of them....nor is Texas from the examples I saw there. Is PA?)
generally, it is youthful minds that tend to generalize in such nonsensical ways.
It is obvious most people on ATS have never voted.
www.rnla.org...
11/28/2011 GEORGIA: 12 officials indicted for vote fraud
"12 former Brooks County officials were indicted for voter fraud. The suspects are accused of illegally helping people vote by absentee ballot…. The defendants include some workers in the voter registrar's office and some school board members. They are Angela Bryant, April Proctor, Brenda Monds, Debra Denard, Lula Smart, Kechia Harrison, Robert Denard, Sandra Cody, Elizabeth Thomas, Linda Troutman, Latashia Head, and Nancy Denard." Stephen Abel, 12 former officials indicted for voter fraud, WALB, Nov. 28, 2011.
Originally posted by Honor93
generally, it is youthful minds that tend to generalize in such nonsensical ways.
many ATS members aren't even US citizens.
however, they very well may have voted in their own country/region.
show you what ??
voter fraud, election fraud, petition fraud, deceased voting, felon voting, absentee ballot fraud ?? what more do you need ?
www.rnla.org...
11/28/2011 GEORGIA: 12 officials indicted for vote fraud
"12 former Brooks County officials were indicted for voter fraud. The suspects are accused of illegally helping people vote by absentee ballot…. The defendants include some workers in the voter registrar's office and some school board members. They are Angela Bryant, April Proctor, Brenda Monds, Debra Denard, Lula Smart, Kechia Harrison, Robert Denard, Sandra Cody, Elizabeth Thomas, Linda Troutman, Latashia Head, and Nancy Denard." Stephen Abel, 12 former officials indicted for voter fraud, WALB, Nov. 28, 2011.
if you were responding to me then what does spanish have to do with anything?
couldn't find a reasonable argument i presume ??
apparently since "official mail" is an acceptable ID and clearly not all voters are verified prior to casting a ballot, why bother registering at all ??
in some regions, ppl are verified by a smile and a wink as they have been for decades.
Originally posted by korathin
Originally posted by LanaG
reply to post by JacKatMtn
I don't think your from PA to start off with, something about your reply seems like typical manufactured leftist garbage. It is easy to get an ID or Licence in Pennsylvania. If you can't make it, arrange for a Veterans or Senior Citizen group to take you. And if the DMV's hours are not to your liking(sometimes the registration/info desk is closed and the picture place is open) do like what I did, GO TO A NOTARY OFFICE!! Pay the extra bucks to get them to file it with Harrisburg, and take the form they give you to the Photo center! If you can get off your arse and arrange to vote you can get off your arse and get to the DMV!
Heck I wanna know how you get:
A) Check Cashed
B)Med's if any
C) Medical Appointments
Seriously, the only person who could be against this law, is someone with a vested interest in rigging elections.
Because this law is only targeting people who aren't legally eligible to vote. It isn't a poll tax, nor does it discriminate against anyone, as it is unreasonable not to have a State ID in today's society. Because cases of people having genuine problems with getting a state ID are so far and few in-between I would contact the State Attorney General's Office for help(if your being truthful), as I am sure they will know how to help you. Because the point of the Voting ID Law isn't to harass eligible voters, but to keep people who aren't eligible from voting.
First of all, why on earth would you say you don't believe I'm from Pennsylvania? I've lived here for all of my 62 years.
If this law is targeting only people who aren't legally eligible to vote, why am I having such a hard time?? I've voted in every Presidential election since 1968 and don't intend to break my record.
Getting to the place where I can get an picture ID is much, much more difficult than getting to my polling place which is in my neighborhood.
As far as
A) Check Cashed - I have a checking account with the same bank since the 90s.
B)Med's if any - I don't need a picture ID to get my medications.
C) Medical Appointments - Also don't need a photo ID for my doctor appointments.
"Pay the extra bucks to get them to file it with Harrisburg" If I had the "extra bucks" there would be no problem, but I guess you don't know what it's like to live on a crummy fixed income once you become disabled. Not so easy for me to get off my "arse" these days either.
Hopefully you will think before you type the next time and not insult someone who has just joined and simply wanted to post her opinion and story. You are very rude.
Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by korathin
There is no need to be so venomous.
There is nothing "left" or "right" about this issue. This is an issue of infringing upon the rights of American citizens to freely vote. If a person has difficulty in getting a photo I.D, that is an instant roadblock for them under a voter ID law.