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U.N. Commission Calls for Legalizing Prostitution Worldwide

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posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
I'm actually quite conservative when it comes to prostitution. I don't believe any woman given the choice would want to sell her body and I don't believe any father would ever wish for his daughter to take up the profession. For me they are strong enough arguments against prostitution. I don't think people should be criminalised for sleeping with a prostitute, but I don't think it should be something society promotes.


You said..... "I don't believe...."

Yet, there is a John Stossel video earlier with multiple women that do have a choice, and love what they do. I know people that have a choice and love what they do. TTTP knows people that have a choice and love what they do.

You are free to believe whatever you want, but your beliefs do not change the facts.




posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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Well I'll tell you what, I would "love" her enough to get her out of the business of selling her body.





Would you expect me to "love" my daughter enough to get her out of the business of selling her body as a housekeeper too?



OH please, there is a big difference between prostitution and house cleaning, give me a break.


Apparently engaging in sex is exactly the same a cleaning toilets to some guys.

I'm suspecing that sex with them isn't particularly enjoyable, when plumbing a woman's depths ends up in the same mental place as cleaning toilets.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by SibylofErythrae

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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Well I'll tell you what, I would "love" her enough to get her out of the business of selling her body.





Would you expect me to "love" my daughter enough to get her out of the business of selling her body as a housekeeper too?



OH please, there is a big difference between prostitution and house cleaning, give me a break.


Apparently engaging in sex is exactly the same a cleaning toilets to some guys.

I'm suspecing that sex with them isn't particularly enjoyable, when plumbing a woman's depths ends up in the same mental place as cleaning toilets.



trollolol if i could hug you i would



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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In a perfect world you'd be right.

By legalizing prositution you would actually discourage the vast majority of sex trafficking, because there'd be no money in it for them anymore.

Just like when they legalize drugs in other countries they saw violent drug related crime go down significant ammounts.

That wasn't the result of "educating" under privileged kids about drugs, it done by not treating them like criminals for making their own choices about what to put in their bodies.

Educating women would solve nothing regarding prostitution, because today most women in the trade weren't asked to participate, they either grew up into it or were forced into it by some way or another.

If you had legal prostituion then there's a far greater chance that the women AND men I might add as not only women are sex workers, would be choosing, of their own volition, not anybody else's to make that their career.

~Tenth



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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I have already stated I have no strong feelings about the legalising of prostitution one way or another. I was arguing solely against your point that males are hard wired to inseminate as many females as possible. So no, we do not agree. If you are asking now whether I believe in marriage, no I don't, but you are still failing to address my point. In terms of prostitution, it is in itself a form of social control and is very much a construct of civilisation, a modern invention, so in that respect, no I don't agree with it, just as I don't agree with marriage for the same reasons...but still you are evading my point.


Fair enough. I think we agree on a lot more than you realize, but if you are keying on the "hard-wired," I can make it irrelavent.

Suppose I'm not hard-wired, but I just happen to enjoy fast cars, motorcycles, lean adventurous women, guns, barbeque, swimming pools, music, etc., and through my travels and relationships with women, I have found a number of women that enjoyed the same things, and eventually married one, and maybe occasionally we enjoy hiring a prostitute, or maybe just a few sexy guys and girls to cater a party we're throwing. We hire "entertainers," not because we are hard-wired, or even socially programmed, but just because we made the conscious choice to do so, and the entertainers are people we know that are also educated, successful, and have made the choice to work as an entertainer...... why would it be anyone's business but the individuals involved? Why would there need to be social norms, religious idealogies, and laws prohibiting it?



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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I like that, but I didnt mean to educate them about prostitution. I meant a education in general, like the education most of the people in America have, but take advantage of.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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Stop flirting.


Seriously, I'd rather have sex with a disgusting woman, (well-protected of course) than to clean up an ER room after a horrendous accident of either blood, feces, urine, or bile.

I don't think we are equating the two, I think it is far from it, we are stating, for those that think sex is disgusting, that far more disgusting jobs exist.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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There certainly is a big difference and you're not going to like the difference I point to, so allow me to diffuse the situation a bit and tell a joke I heard years ago.

Sally was a housekeeper for a high priced hooker in New York city. One night, Veronique the high priced hooker came home wearing a fur coat. Sally was so impressed with this fur coat she asked Veronique how much it costs. Veronique smiled proudly and told her $10,000. Sally inhaled sharply and exclaimed: "Good Lord Miss Veronique, where did you ever come up with that much money for a fur coat?" Veronique smiled even bigger and said; "It was easy Sally, I found myself a client with $10,000.

A few months later Veronique returns home from work and sees Sally cleaning house wearing a fur coat that looks just like the one Veronique was wearing. Veronique asks "Sally, you're not wearing my fur coat while you clean the house are you?" Sally smiles proudly: "Oh no Ma'am. This is my fur coat." Veronique inhales sharply and asks: "Sally I don't pay you enough to buy a $10,000 fur coat. Wherever did you find that money?" Sally smiled bigger. "I found myself 10,000 clients with a dollar."

Yes, my friend, there is a difference.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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The only people presenting sex as disgusting in this thread are the people who are unabashedly loving the idea of prostitution as a societal norm and a great option for their daughters and sons.

I find this sort of interesting actually.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by SibylofErythrae
Apparently engaging in sex is exactly the same a cleaning toilets to some guys.

I'm suspecing that sex with them isn't particularly enjoyable, when plumbing a woman's depths ends up in the same mental place as cleaning toilets.


Yeah, and consider that most men can't even get their pee in the toilet without splashing the rim...sooo if they can't hit a hole that size...



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posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by stolski21
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


I like that, but I didnt mean to educate them about prostitution. I meant a education in general, like the education most of the people in America have, but take advantage of.


What education in the United States? Not to change the subject but the quality of education is just atrocious in most "First world" nations, especially the United States in it's present form.

It's not like girls have any less opportunity for education than men do. I mean we could have that whole sexist argument about how women are paid less or whatever but that's changing for the good hopefully.

Either way, just because more women are educated doesn't mean that those who enjoy sex and enjoy providing it for a price will want to do anything differently.

~Tenth



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:17 PM
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Ah yes. It never fails that the sycophants of tyranny and the pro-prohibitionists have no other avenue to rely on than logical fallacies. They cannot avoid simple facts that show the prostitution does much more harm than good, and as you have handily demonstrated, you are not at all concerned with any greater good, only concerned with denigrating men.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by SibylofErythrae
reply to post by getreadyalready
 


The only people presenting sex as disgusting in this thread are the people who are unabashedly loving the idea of prostitution as a societal norm and a great option for their daughters and sons.

I find this sort of interesting actually.


No, those people who somehow think it's ok two consenting adults behind closed doors are those are presenting sex as disgusting.

And prostitution IS a societal norm my friend. Name me ONE time in the history of man that there wasn't sex for money or sex for trade?

Just one.

Here's a tip, you won't find one.

~Tenth



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Its important to point out that many women who go into prostitution/stripping/escorting do it as a means to an end. They don't plan to live their whole lives getting paid for sex. Some do it to pay off college debts, or to start a career, some pornstars make a franchise out of it and become millionaires. I don't think any less of a woman who chooses to go into those things to make money in order to reach her dreams. You can't deny that they make good money.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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I have drug a child out of the pits of the under belly of society.

She was hooked on crack, I followed her everywhere, one time I wrapped my hand around her tee-shirt so tight, to keep her from going to the crack house, three people couldn't pull me away, and I am old,

She was living in an apartment complex full of crack addicts, one women's daughter was living in an empty apartment selling herself for crack, after the dealers had taken all her furniture.

Her mother would come everyday to see if she was still alive, that still makes me cry, I wonder what ever happened to her?

Anyway I would wander up and down the alleys late at night to spy on the dealers, one night we found her cowering in her dark apartment, hiding from the dealers, my husband put his life on the line that night when he confronted them, we brought her home and she thanks me all the time

Yes I hate drugs too.

And legalizing them or prostitution is not the answer,

Our society is going down the tubes.

I'm not stupid or delusional, look around you, I live it, don't you get it?

I have seen it all, I was an alcoholic and drug addict,



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posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by SibylofErythrae
 


Ah yes. It never fails that the sycophants of tyranny and the pro-prohibitionists have no other avenue to rely on than logical fallacies. They cannot avoid simple facts that show the prostitution does much more harm than good, and as you have handily demonstrated, you are not at all concerned with any greater good, only concerned with denigrating men.


Ah, now you are claiming the crown to represent all men.

I'd like to take a poll now, on how many men want the guy who likes the idea of his wife or daughter being a prostitute to be his Gender Rep?

Buehler?

I'm not against legalization. I'm against the whole scale love affair with prostitution as a societal norm and the rubber stamp of approval for it.
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posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Biliverdin

Originally posted by SibylofErythrae
Apparently engaging in sex is exactly the same a cleaning toilets to some guys.

I'm suspecing that sex with them isn't particularly enjoyable, when plumbing a woman's depths ends up in the same mental place as cleaning toilets.


Yeah, and consider that most men can't even get their pee in the toilet without splashing the rim...sooo if they can't hit a hole that size...



edit on 25-7-2012 by Biliverdin because: (no reason given)


Agreed, its disgusting, the old farts at my work piss all over the floor. I absolutely HATE walking up to urinals.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by SibylofErythrae

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by SibylofErythrae
 


Ah yes. It never fails that the sycophants of tyranny and the pro-prohibitionists have no other avenue to rely on than logical fallacies. They cannot avoid simple facts that show the prostitution does much more harm than good, and as you have handily demonstrated, you are not at all concerned with any greater good, only concerned with denigrating men.


Ah, now you are claiming the crown to represent all men.

I'd like to take a poll now, on how many men want the guy who likes the idea of his wife or daughter being a prostitute to be his Gender Rep?

Buehler?


I do not, I would like to rep myself as a male.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by TheReclaimer
Its important to point out that many women who go into prostitution/stripping/escorting do it as a means to an end. They don't plan to live their whole lives getting paid for sex. Some do it to pay off college debts, or to start a career, some pornstars make a franchise out of it and become millionaires. I don't think any less of a woman who chooses to go into those things to make money in order to reach her dreams. You can't deny that they make good money.


Their outcomes tend to suggest that the amount of money they get out of it doesn't cover the costs to their soul.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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And again you rely on logical fallacy to make an argument. You have no facts to support your advocacy of prohibition of prostitution, so you've spent most of your time engaging in ad hominem attacks and crowning yourself royalty on what "the depths of a woman" constitutes and what demonstrates meaningful sex. If you had facts on your side, it is reasonable to believe you would rely on facts instead of logical fallacy.




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