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U.N. Commission Calls for Legalizing Prostitution Worldwide

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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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I don't personally know any respectable man that would pay for sex.


That is because they are not being honest with you, because they realize your point of view has the word "respectable" in it. If the respectable men in your life were talking to you the way they talk to their male buddies, your outlook would be entirely different.

Look at the "respectable" men like Bill Clinton, John Edwards, etc. The lie might last for decades, or might not ever be revealed, but everyone has secrets. EVERYONE.


lol, only if you actually believed that whole dog and pony show actually had or has anything to do with respect then you really got problems. I am pretty sure Hilary was ticked when Billy bob there cheated as it may have brought bad publicity, but if her carer and the $$$ stopped coming in then she would ditch him faster then a bad ticket. As for John Edwards, I am pretty sure there women/wives know what there getting themselves into, and the rest its all for show.

As for secrets, well it ain't really that much of a secret now is it? Its more like pretty dam obvious they all may as well just have a sign hanging off there necks saying what there all about. There are secrets in this world, but none were humans and there sexual relationships and the things that they are really into is about.
But hey whatever floats peoples boats.




posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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Dear hp1229,

Well, I guess we can know what sort of laws the UN would pass if it was allowed to overrule national sovereignty. I forget the country (Australia or England) where prostitution is legal in certain areas under certain conditions. A woman lost her job and in this country you are required to post your resume and if offered a job you must take it or lose your benefits. She was offered a job as a prostitute. She turned the job down and I don't know the final outcome but the government did threaten to take away her benefits. Prostitution goes on and will continue to; but, it is not like any other job, not for the prostitute and not for the customer. While some may choose it as a career, others, most are forced into it and I have known some that were forced into it.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by getreadyalready
 


My neighboors daughter stripped during the summer and paid 8 years of university doing 3 months of work.

That's over 100K in 8 years for 3 months a year.

Now she's a resident doctor with 0 debt.

IMO she made a smart decision. Besides there are plenty of "gentlman's clubs" that if you walked in there you'd be hard pressed to call it a "strip joint".

~Tenth


Its a lot of money for sure, there is no doubt on why they do it. And like I said before I think most of them its not really about the sex part its the profit and control part. But in all and also for every "yin" there is a "yang" and not everybody came out on top from prostituting themselves sexually in all the various ways that there are out there.

I am not surprised however, and striping seems mild, but I doubt she made that kind of money just taking her clothes off as truly there is nothing all that special or all that big deal about naked women, no doubt there was something more in that whole story you propose.

And there are no doubt plenty of women who came out on top from doing such things and became doctors or lawyers or some other high paying profession. But still that is not the whole story not by a long shot. And changing the names and labels on things again may make things more acceptable, but in all its just putting a new paint-job on the same old thing.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:00 PM
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I don't think it's empowering. But a woman should have the right to choose if she wants to make money off sex legally. Porn is the same thing, only filmed.


Why do you respect the LEGAL Prostitute, and not the Illegal one ?


I don't judge someone for what they do unless they cause victims.


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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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This isn't really about whether prostitution should be legal or not. Why is the U.N. deciding what is best for the "World"? What happens if a country decides not to accept the U.N.'s recommendation? What will the U.N. "Call" for next? Why are they making suggestions on this type of issue at all? This is not and should not be a U.N. topic of interest....at all. It's quite disgusting that they would be involved in any way on a decision such as this, for ALLLLL the countries in the world. Maybe they could require compatibility tests for couples before they get married, or parenting classes before a couple has children. Sure, they might be good ideas but this is not the business of the U.N.

ETA: The Principles of the United Nations:
All Member States have sovereign equality.
All Member States must obey the Charter.
Countries must try to settle their differences by peaceful means.
Countries must avoid using force or threatening to use force.
The UN may not interfere in the domestic affairs of any country.
Countries should try to assist the United Nations.

I would consider prostitution being legal or illegal a domestic affair. Just sayin'
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:31 PM
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I've heard that tired explanation, even from the experts a million times. Sometimes sex is about power and control. Sometimes relationships are about power and control. Sometimes employer situations are about power and control. The fact is, "rape" by definition, is about sex.


Negative!... Rape is about power and control, and sex is used as form of power and control. It's basically a fetish that they have, and they can get that same power and control in a whole bunch of other ways, but they want it and like it in the sexual form. Really it literally is just a fetish gone to the extremes, and they get off being able to control and have power over there victims using sex, or sex is a part of the overall act, but not the whole of it. It really is not all that hard to understand.
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Crying out loud.

Really? Don't they have more important things to work on? With all the problems in the world we have today, they decide to really spend time and money on this?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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If that is true, then how come many rapes happen after something renders the person unconscious? Lots of rapes occur after drugs are administered, so there is no resistance. Some rapes occur that the person isn't even aware of, as in the cases where healthcare professionals rape their subjects. I've read about dentists, hypnotists and therapists, doctors, surgeons, nurses, all raping their subjects. Rape occurs in nursing homes, and against invalids. Rape is about sex.


OMG you really are slow or something.

What do all those situations have in common? Power and control over another individual, the details and differences may change a bit from person to person, but it seems the main thing is that they get off being able to control or take advantage of somebody else. ie power and control over somebody else. And sex, is just a tool that they use. Because it gets them off, and they know there victims would not want that if they had a choice in it. Like duh.



If it was all about making someone do something the don't want to do, then why don't we hear about kidnappings with people duct-taped to chairs and forced to eat spinach or watch American Idol?


Because you only see that # in the movies, most of them are only willing to try what they think and know that they can get away with. Kidnapping somebody may have dire consequences and takes a whole lot more work then say drugging somebody and taking advantage of that.





The experts are dead wrong. There are plenty of ways to take dominion over a subject, and those things manifest themselves in lots of ways, and sometimes those ways include sex, but that is a different topic of power and control.

Negative!... it is the same thing. In all it basically comes down to that it gets them off, not all that different then the fetish you and your wife have about sleeping around with different people. It's just something that gets both of you off, only you go about it in two completely different ways, you take the low road, and she takes the high road. But in the end its really reaching the same end by two different paths.

The same can be said of rapists, they all have there different fetishes, and they reach there ends by different roads and its all about power and control, and sex is just a tool and a biological response, the thing that gets them off, but without that power and control, it would not get them off nowhere near to that extent. And it would not mean anything, and as such they would not be looking to do it.

Nothing really to understand, it's plain obvious.



Rape is about SEX. If it was just power and control, then we'd hear a lot more of your roller coaster scenarios being committed, instead of sex acts.


You watch to many movies, most of these rape acts are more subtle and inconspicuous and really the whole point of it is that they think they can get away with it, its the subtle things that usually work, not the bold outlandish things like tying somebody to a rollercoaster. But believe me if they could do that and get away with it, they would definitely try it, and again sex is a tool for them and not much more beyond that.
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posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 12:09 AM
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my spouse is not a cheater, but if he was do you think that legalizing prostitution would make anything better? This is nonsense. Society is being degraded and demoralized more and more and with the help of Hollywood and greedy, selfish politicians.

Furthermore, what happens if prostitution becomes legal and suddenly corporations can just let employees put it on their expense reports just like a meal or a hotel room? Pandora's box if you ask me. Then don't be complaining about evil corporations either....
Oh yeah, and what makes you think it has to be the fault of a person if their spouse cheats? Some people are just wired that way and you are automatically blaming the victim assuming that the person doesn't know how to have good sex. If a person cheats for other reasons doesn't make it any better. Either way, it's moral depravity and selfishness.
Too many hours of listening to Dr. L has you desensitized or you are just naive about misogyny.
I seriously hope you don't go into counseling for a career.
Oh yes one more thing, who says that everyone who goes to a prostitute is married or has a significant other? It's just the married politicians get caught with their hands in the cooky jar and get their personal life paraded around by the media and other greedy politicians.


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posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 12:24 AM
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This is just a way to get more tax $ in the end I'm betting.
One lady I'm friends with online prostituted to high end
clients and retired at age 36. It seems kinda unfair she paid no
taxes on any of that cash right?

The truth of that matter, illegal or legal if someone wants to hire
someone for sex it will happen regardless of moral objections
or archaic laws.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke


I don't judge someone for what they do unless they cause victims.



Hypothetically speaking........

If a mother who is a "legal" Prostitute, catches AIDS, and passes it to an unborn child, is it societies problem, or is it the Prostitutes problem ?


Western Europe is one of the few parts of the world which includes countries where commercial sex is either legal or controlled (Switzerland, Finland, Germany, Ireland, Austria, Latvia, Hungary, Turkey, and the Netherlands). Overall, the HIV prevalence among sex workers is less than 5%.42 Levels of HIV infection seem to be low (less than 1%) amongst sex workers who do not inject drugs. However, for those who do inject drugs the risk is often significantly higher. According to a study carried out in three cities in the Netherlands, the HIV prevalence among female sex workers who injected drugs was 13.8%, while it was 1.5% amongst other female sex workers.


Sex Workers, Prostitution, HIV and AIDS



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by Gridrebel
This isn't really about whether prostitution should be legal or not. Why is the U.N. deciding what is best for the "World"? What happens if a country decides not to accept the U.N.'s recommendation? What will the U.N. "Call" for next? Why are they making suggestions on this type of issue at all? This is not and should not be a U.N. topic of interest....at all. It's quite disgusting that they would be involved in any way on a decision such as this, for ALLLLL the countries in the world. Maybe they could require compatibility tests for couples before they get married, or parenting classes before a couple has children. Sure, they might be good ideas but this is not the business of the U.N.
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Excellent point!!!!! The UN already has too much control as it is. Who are these people advocating this stuff anyway and what do they get out of it? Sounds like more totalitarianism but in reverse. Usually it's you have to eat your broccoli because it's what's best for you( or have your guns confiscated because it's what's best for you) but really now we have to agree to prostitution because it's best for .... who?



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 12:47 AM
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If a mother who is a "legal" Prostitute, catches AIDS, and passes it to an unborn child, is it societies problem, or is it the Prostitutes problem ?


You know, I've never met this guy "Society" before, but from all I hear this guy has more problems than a whole brothel of hookers, a whole Congress of crooks, a whole corporation of thieves, and a whole institution of mentally unstable combined. Sheesh. Why can't this "Society" guy get his act together?



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 12:49 AM
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Just an awesome response, JPZ !



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 12:58 AM
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The libertarian ideal of less gov is better to me does not apply to the UN making decisions for countries around the world. Now the UN is trying to legislate our morality for us and if Obamacare legislating we have to purchase health insurance is any kind of indication of what we are getting into, oh yah and speaking of forced insurance.... will the State end up paying for legalized hooking?



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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The only posts are yours that makes perfect sense.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by kimish
I just want to add:

I wouldn't wife a ho and I know a lot of men who wouldn't. Also, nuclear families are pretty much what's creating the problems we are having with today's youths. We didn't have the crime and this and that 50 years ago when nuclear families weren't the norm. Granted, this isn't 50 years ago but we do learn history for a reason... to learn from it.

Food for thought.
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What? Where were you in the 40's and 50's? Or even the 1800's? Do you know what a nuclear family consists of? Did you know that it is precisely the nuclear family which Karl Marx thought was such a threat to the communist State? If any thing it is the destruction of the norm of the nuclear family which has caused so much destruction recently.
Were you thinking of primitive tribes who had communal type living? There was still the nuclear unit even within the hunter gatherer tribes.
Is the idea of a nuclear family crimping your idea of sleeping around with no responsibilities? Just wondering, unless you can show cases where non-nuclear families were healthier solutions.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 01:12 AM
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Wow I think you totally misunderstood my post. I was responding to the poster who implied legalized prostitution would break up marriages. I said a cheater is a cheater and it's not the fault of the prostitute but the spouse who cheated. Why would you think I was blaming the victim? If your man or woman cheats it is because of some issue with them not you and by you I don't mean YOU in particular. I would guess most cheaters aren't doing it because they aren't getting good sex at home or that professionals are any more skilled than us amateurs. I don't think that has anything to do with it. Nor do I think most men who use prostitutes are married. Please reread my post I think you will see I wasn't saying any thing of the sort. If I wasn't clear my apologies.

My intention was never to offend



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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The only posts are yours that makes perfect sense.



Yah sounds like a snide remark on your part. Perhaps you are also one of those people who thinks it makes sense to judge people by what their spouses do? I'm sure in your mind it makes all the sense in the world.
By the way, I do give people credit when I think they make sense.

Can I blame you for not understanding my posts? I sure hope so, it would make yours make sense.

And while we are at it, I'd also like to blame you for me thinking your post doesn't make sense.

lol

Or we can all just be like Obama and blame Bush for it.

But my feeling is that marriage is a two-way street and people need to take personal responsibility for their behavior. If there are relationship problems then work it out or get divorced. But to blame your spouse for your cheating seems to me a bit disingenuous.
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posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 01:23 AM
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I do agree why is the UN making this call? I am sure there are more pressing issues like maybe all the wars/revolutions going on. I suspect this came from the UN Health Organization as a way to possibly stem the rise of HIV/AIDS. Needle exchange and health certified sex workers has been shown to do this in counties where these things are legal.

It's not a black and white issue and I think what they are trying to do would be classed as harm reduction. Prostitution they say is the worlds oldest profession and people continue to inject drugs so it would be logical to try and reduce the number of casualties. Prohibition has not worked it is time for another solution and this may not be it but at least people are talking about it now. Open discussion and debate are the keys to solving most problems/issues.



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