James Holmes was Studying Temporal Illusions, or the Ability to "Change the Past"... or was he?, page 1


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Topic started on 24-7-2012 @ 08:03 AM by darkbake
Introduction

This thread is not nearly as exciting as you might think, but it is informative.

I found this interesting video clip here:

James at Science Camp



"A temporal illusion is something that allows you to change the past."

Okay...

So... what is this temporal illusion? I am a psychology major, and I am a bit skeptical about temporal illusions being used to change the past, although there is a theory in quantum psychology that the past can be changed for the individual, it is not nearly mainstream. So I honestly don't know what James is talking about. Let's go see if Wikipedia has any answers (it doesn't).

A temporal illusion is a distortion in sensory perception caused when the time between the occurrence of two or more events is very short (typically less than a second). In such cases a person may misperceive the temporal order of the events. The kappa effect is a form of temporal illusion verifiable by experiment[16] whereby time intervals between visual events are perceived as relatively longer or shorter depending on the relative spatial positions of the events. In other words, the perception of temporal intervals appears to be directly affected, in these cases, by the perception of spatial intervals. The Kappa effect can be displayed when considering a journey made in two parts that take an equal amount of time. Between these two parts, the journey that covers more distance will appear to take longer than the journey covering less distance, even though they take an equal amount of time.


Wikipedia: Temporal Illusion

I think that is pretty clear, just read the last sentence;

Between these two parts, the journey that covers more distance will appear to take longer than the journey covering less distance, even though they take an equal amount of time.


although I don't see how that is changing any events in the past, one could say that one's perception of time has been modified. And surprisingly, this little tidbit does come into play later in this thread.

The Mentors and their Work

Whatever he was working on, could be found either by looking at works by Dr. Terrence Sejnowski or John Jacobson, who were luckily shown in the PowerPoint on the news clip.

I found a clue here

Eagleman, D. M.; Sejnowski, T. J.; Untangling Spatial from Temporal Illusions, Trends in Neuroscience, 25(6) 293, 2002 (PDF)
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Download the .pdf here to look at his research.

This is an experiment that shows how the journey that covers more distance will appear to take longer than the one that covers less distance, as the Wikipedia article explained. So basically, everything ties together into a boring psychology experiment.

Sorry guys... although someone else can open up a new investigation using the information I found if they want. I figure this is at least worth posting because it brings forth some new information for other people to use in their research, and it also clarifies a bit about what James Holmes was working on immediately after high school.

I still think that something the guy was studying in his psychology courses might have caused his rampage, so I'm going to look into that some more.


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reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 08:15 AM by bluemirage5
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Or maybe he was specifically targeted because of what he found that may or may not necessarily be what he was working on?


reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 08:20 AM by Tindalos2013
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I too have started to explore for more info on Temporal Illusions to look for answers about James Holmes and the the thread I recently started might help you. At the moment I have been trying to find any papers or articles he may have published in online academia websites.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 08:25 AM by darkbake
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Thanks man, he might have started here and then gotten more involved with this idea over time in his college and graduate years. I know I developed a theory about four years ago that I still work on today.

Also, I wasn't actually able to unearth why he thought that temporal illusions could "change the past," so that is still up in the air.
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reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 08:40 AM by darkbake
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I'm not really sure about changing the energies around him and inviting in demons, anything is possible... I would have to know what he was studying on his own time, or what his senior thesis in college was, or what he was doing in his PHD program to know for sure... these are all good things to look into.

He could have definitely been experimenting with drugs, as a matter of fact, they were mentioned in the Wikipedia article I quoted above.

Psychoactive drugs can alter the judgement of time. Some – such as entheogens – may also dramatically alter a person's temporal judgement. Substances such as '___', psilocybin, and mescaline may affect our time perception. At higher doses time may appear to slow down, stop, speed up, go backwards or even seem out of sequence.


It is at least somewhat common for people doing their own psychological research to use drugs as a method of discovery.

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reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 08:44 AM by darkbake
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Are you saying that we are approaching the time in the prophecy where the temple is destroyed?


reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 08:51 AM by michaelbrux
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yes, but.

its not Jerusalem that is being destroyed.

its Damascus instead.

the past is being changed.

its as if the two cities are reflections of one another and in the future only one can exist in tact.

its just a theory, but when multiple powers descended on Damascus instead of Jerusalem, I began to suspect the world had taken a detour somehow.

i read somewhere that the Temple Mount is under the control of a Waqf (an Islamic trust). Israel provides security, but the administration of the site has been under the control of Damascus since 1187 (I haven't determined whether that means the year when Saladin captured it from Crusaders or the two digit month and year, as time is a pain in the ass to grasp.





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reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 08:59 AM by stupid girl
Originally posted by michaelbrux
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yes, but.

its not Jerusalem that is being destroyed.

its Damascus instead.

the past is being changed.

its as if the two cities are reflections of one another and in the future only one can exist in tact.

its just a theory, but when multiple powers descended on Damascus instead of Jerusalem, I began to suspect the world had taken a detour somehow.





I can dig all of what you're saying less and except the past being changed.

When the ball was dropped, it began to roll forward and will continue to do so until the end of its journey. There are no rewinds, only changed minds.


reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 09:00 AM by FlyersFan
reply to post by michaelbrux


Awesome theory. Tell us more.
Could you be thinking of a time-line shift??
You've got me hooked. MORE!



reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 09:03 AM by michaelbrux
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i agree that the past can't be changed, but it can be covered up / forgotten and we can all moved forward in time based on a lie.

i think that's where the idea of the illusion comes into play.
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reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 09:04 AM by bluemirage5
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There you go......

what a perfect patsy for an almost perfect false flag attack


reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 09:24 AM by michaelbrux
Originally posted by FlyersFan
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Awesome theory. Tell us more.
Could you be thinking of a time-line shift??
You've got me hooked. MORE!


i don't follow prophecy closely, but it all tends to deal with the destruction of Jerusalem.

the coalition of nations that were supposed to surround Jerusalem according to prophecy are all in Damascus, another city which Abraham is a prominent, and not Jerusalem, which is comparatively calm.

Russia, Syria, China, Iran...on one side.

NATO, the Arab League on the other.

various other groups and nations that don't have a prominent role.

if there has been a time line shift...it must have happened years ago.

James Holmes action took place on the 1st of Av...on the 9th of Av is the day when the temple is supposed to be destroyed. The Nine Days being a separate event within the 3 weeks. I'm thinking it was meant to represent some type of decapitation strike.

last night the movie Eagle Eye was shown and it was 12 people on the list for termination...in a manner similar to the 12 people that died in Theater Nine.

its almost like revelation; in this time line he is caught. in a different one he gets away and becomes chief of police or something.


reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 09:34 AM by Bilk22
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I started a thread regarding the idea that he was conducting some form of experiment in perception, a rather sick one, where he was not actually part of the shooting, but instead made himself appear to be through illusion. He'll have corroborating witnesses that place him somewhere else during the shooting. He then parked outside the theater near the exit, with equipment identical to that used in the crime. The actual shooter vanished before police arrived.

His hair is colored red and he was wearing all red so that he could be easily remembered. I won't be surprised to hear a report that some guy was in a nearby 7-11 or somewhere, at the time of the shooting, that fit his description. I just have some odd feeling the police are following all sorts of leads down a rabbit hole.

I guess we'll have to wait to hear more. He has not yet been formally charged, which is quite odd if they have incontrovertible evidence.
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reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 09:38 AM by michaelbrux
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perhaps they are waiting to charge him until after we have gotten past the temporal junction we are currently in.

this junction ends on Sunday at 6 p.m...10th of Av?

his next court date is Monday. when/if he is charged.

all observers should consider the reality to be much stronger than it is at present.


reply posted on 24-7-2012 @ 09:41 AM by OpinionatedB
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You are actually making some weird kind of sense here....

but the problem is that the destruction of Damascus is in both Islamic literature as well as biblical literature right?

I know for a fact its in Islamic, and I think the bible has some prophecies concerning damascus also

Damascus appears to be something serious both religions have in common.
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