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The gay agenda and why it bothers me: An analogy

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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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reply to post by kaylaluv
 


Oh give me a break bullying. Everyone gets bullied in this world, what a lame argument.




posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by mikeone718
well, i give up. you cant push your ideas on me.

not all of us are going to love you or accept you. its life. its how it is. its how it is for everyone in the us.

people have issues with illegal aliens, muslims, christians, dogs, cats, nerds, blacks (i can keep going). homosexuality is just the least acceptable.

deal with it.
Nope, I won't deal with your hypocritical and baseless homophobia. Nor will millions (actually, billions) of others. We're not going to deal with it, and we're not going to care whether or not you love or accept "us", because we are who we are, and who we are is who we always will be.

You choose to be a bigot, I choose to call you out as a bigot. Embrace the title, or stop being a bigot. That's all it comes down to.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
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Homophobe???

See can't comprehend that you are sticking your pole into feces..Do you know what feces is? Go out to a park and pick up some dog crap and rub it all over yourself and tell me if that turns you on. It probably will, but you don't get how disgusting that is...
If that is what what you reduce this issue down to then yes...you are a homophobe!



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
reply to post by kaylaluv
 


Oh give me a break bullying. Everyone gets bullied in this world, what a lame argument.


You go through the unbelievable, demented, absolutely vile treatment bullies give to gay kids.

And tell me it doesn't matter. You are freakin' heartless if you believe it's a lame argument. It's scarring to these kids, changes them forever, destroys everything they ever believed about the constitution, and forever taints the former glory of America. Bullying is against everything we teach in our schools, everything we fight for in Congress, and everything we stand for as a nation, and you say it's a lame argument? You're heartless.
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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Can sperm + sperm = embyo in any species?

Why is that?

Evolution?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
reply to post by crazydaysandnights
 


Homophobe???

See can't comprehend that you are sticking your pole into feces..Do you know what feces is? Go out to a park and pick up some dog crap and rub it all over yourself and tell me if that turns you on. It probably will, but you don't get how disgusting that is...
I'm guessing you've never had anal sex. Newsflash, feces is not involved and it isn't a sex act that revolves around s**t. Nothing more than your overactive and perverted imagination overcoming any semblance of sanity you may otherwise could have.

Do you have oral sex? And I bet you think the vagina is totally clean and free of any semblance of bacteria



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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You know, I've read the OP and had a good laugh at it, and thought that it's funny but there is something to it. Then I thought maybe some people will feel offended by it, but most of the members will appreciate it and laugh too. Such a mistake....
After 20 and something pages of comments, I realize one thing:

The ones who have to first accept their homosexuality is the gay people themselves.

Its them who have to take a deep breath and relax a little bit. Yes, they are perceived by society as different, abnormal or strange. That's a fact, just like the fact that there were always homosexuals. So why don't get over it also and move on with their life?
They will get their rights where they didn't yet, I'm sure about that. They are already seen as a norm in many, many places. They are being appreciated and successful in many areas of life. Yet, there will always be people seeing them as abnormal and bitchering about them. No matter what they do, they will always be a minority, and there will always be someone against them. They won't change the way this world thinks; the black people got their rights but there is still an awful amount of racism in the world. The feminists got their rights, but there are still so many women suppressed out there. So maybe it's time for homosexuals to understand that this is the best they can get from a world that is not fair with anyone.

And maybe it's time for them to relax, to let go of their anger, their victim attitude and their expectations from other people to "love them for what they are," and accept the things as they are. This was not an "anti-gay" thread, but all the anger and the frustration and the insults thrown in here almost made it one.

When homosexual people around here will feel so "normal and natural" about their own sexuality so they can take some criticism or some jokes about it without thrashing around, then they can come and ask others to take it as normal also; until then they better put their ducks in a row, and stop blaming others for their personal frustrations.

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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:24 PM
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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I have the answer for everyone: stop watching t.v.


t.v. is full of brainwashing and agendas of every type.


i don't watch t.v. much anymore because i am sick of every single commercial AND show trying to get me to think in a way i don't agree with, by tricking me, or by passive aggressively suggesting things to my subconscious.

im totally happy with gay straight bi pan, any type of people of any race.

i can find a person of any combination of sexual preference and race, and pick on person at least that i can say "hey that person is a really cool person"


OP, i know what your talking about, but seriously, its the t.v. bro, that t.v. is poison.



i say, don't defend before hand, defend after hand.


meaning: dont say: "im totally ok with porcupines but i like my dog"


say instead: "yea i like my dog." then the person says "you dont like porcupines?" so you say

"nah they are ok, but ill stick with my dog, live and let live"


if they assume anything before hand just because you said "yea i like my dog" and they don't say

"you dont like porcupines?" and they just go on to assume that your a "porcupine hater" because of your opinion, then they are overjudgmental rude jerks, and they didn't even give you a chance.

just like the people you see on t.v. shows, "oh shes such a b**** mehehehememe"

its all fabricated drama pounded into your head on a daily basis designed to make you imitate the personalities of these actors into your own personality on a deep level, to cause unintentional drama and chaos at home.


some people are much more susceptible to this stuff than others, and you know its gotten into someone when your buddy is like "ARGH MY MOM IS BEING SO CRAZY"

you know what i mean, ( and i don't mean women, dont even think that way haha, yo have a filthy mind)


peace lol.


*hugs*


(dont watch t.v.)



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by SoymilkAlaska
I have the answer for everyone: stop watching t.v.


t.v. is full of brainwashing and agendas of every type.


i don't watch t.v. much anymore because i am sick of every single commercial AND show trying to get me to think in a way i don't agree with, by tricking me, or by passive aggressively suggesting things to my subconscious.

im totally happy with gay straight bi pan, any type of people of any race.

i can find a person of any combination of sexual preference and race, and pick on person at least that i can say "hey that person is a really cool person"


OP, i know what your talking about, but seriously, its the t.v. bro, that t.v. is poison.



i say, don't defend before hand, defend after hand.


meaning: dont say: "im totally ok with porcupines but i like my dog"


say instead: "yea i like my dog." then the person says "you dont like porcupines?" so you say

"nah they are ok, but ill stick with my dog, live and let live"


if they assume anything before hand just because you said "yea i like my dog" and they don't say

"you dont like porcupines?" and they just go on to assume that your a "porcupine hater" because of your opinion, then they are overjudgmental rude jerks, and they didn't even give you a chance.

just like the people you see on t.v. shows, "oh shes such a b**** mehehehememe"

its all fabricated drama pounded into your head on a daily basis designed to make you imitate the personalities of these actors into your own personality on a deep level, to cause unintentional drama and chaos at home.


some people are much more susceptible to this stuff than others, and you know its gotten into someone when your buddy is like "ARGH MY MOM IS BEING SO CRAZY"

you know what i mean, ( and i don't mean women, dont even think that way haha, yo have a filthy mind)


peace lol.


*hugs*


(dont watch t.v.)


re-runs of Brokeback mountain in particular



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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And the reason people believe homosexuality is somehow "worse" than basically anything else, and the reason straight kids think it's totally permissible to bully gay teens, is because our government tell LGBT citizens every day we are not equal, and religious leaders tell LGBT citizens every day that they are sinful deviants on a track to Hell. Our leaders promote homophobia, and that has a trickle down effect. It's NO SECRET that in places such as San Francisco and West Hollywood, for example, anti-gay hate crime rates are quite low in terms of percentage of gays within the city. And that's because the legislators, the leaders of these cities, don't promote anti-gay hate. Hence, you don't see gay teens committing suicide in places such as San Fran and WEHO. Just an example, there are other cities on both sides that highlight the differences. A city like DC has a high gay population yet is still very anti-gay overall because religious leaders promote homophobia in inner-city communities. Homophobia in=homophobia out. Gay acceptance in=gay acceptance out. It's an easy sequence but it's something that homophobes are I guess not quick thinking enough to fully realize that.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
reply to post by crazydaysandnights
 


So what comes out of your bunghole pal? I will give you a guess...Google it if you need help
Won't answer my questions? OK, guess this discussion is over. Thanks. Keep on fantasizing about that dirty sh*tty anal sex.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Dhimmie

Originally posted by SoymilkAlaska
I have the answer for everyone: stop watching t.v.


t.v. is full of brainwashing and agendas of every type.


i don't watch t.v. much anymore because i am sick of every single commercial AND show trying to get me to think in a way i don't agree with, by tricking me, or by passive aggressively suggesting things to my subconscious.

im totally happy with gay straight bi pan, any type of people of any race.

i can find a person of any combination of sexual preference and race, and pick on person at least that i can say "hey that person is a really cool person"


OP, i know what your talking about, but seriously, its the t.v. bro, that t.v. is poison.



i say, don't defend before hand, defend after hand.


meaning: dont say: "im totally ok with porcupines but i like my dog"


say instead: "yea i like my dog." then the person says "you dont like porcupines?" so you say

"nah they are ok, but ill stick with my dog, live and let live"


if they assume anything before hand just because you said "yea i like my dog" and they don't say

"you dont like porcupines?" and they just go on to assume that your a "porcupine hater" because of your opinion, then they are overjudgmental rude jerks, and they didn't even give you a chance.

just like the people you see on t.v. shows, "oh shes such a b**** mehehehememe"

its all fabricated drama pounded into your head on a daily basis designed to make you imitate the personalities of these actors into your own personality on a deep level, to cause unintentional drama and chaos at home.


some people are much more susceptible to this stuff than others, and you know its gotten into someone when your buddy is like "ARGH MY MOM IS BEING SO CRAZY"

you know what i mean, ( and i don't mean women, dont even think that way haha, yo have a filthy mind)


peace lol.


*hugs*


(dont watch t.v.)


re-runs of Brokeback mountain in particular




O_o ?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteHat
You know, I've read the OP and had a good laugh at it, and thought that it's funny but there is something to it. Then I thought maybe some people will feel offended by it, but most of the members will appreciate it and laugh too. Such a mistake....
After 20 and something pages of comments, I realize one thing:

The ones who have to first accept their homosexuality is the gay people themselves.

Its them who have to take a deep breath and relax a little bit. Yes, they are perceived by society as different, abnormal or strange. That's a fact, just like the fact that there were always homosexuals. So why don't get over it also and move on with their life?

edit on 24-7-2012 by WhiteHat because: (no reason given)
LOL. Typical message from a privileged individual. The problem are the victims, not the ones doing the victimizing. If the victims were/didn't do _____________, then they wouldn't be victims/feel like victims. Almost comical, really.

Thanks for telling the gay community that they should "just get over it", you know, being inherently looked down upon and castigated because of our orientation, your advice is surely helpful. Right. Just get over being discriminated against. I mean, it's going to happen, so we should just accept it, and take the discrimination in stride. Take a deep breath and relax, because it really isn't a big deal to be hated for who you are and treated worse on a legal and social level as a result. How silly of me to ever believe it was.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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People past the age of about 16/17 should not blame TV commercials for their beliefs. There is something almost tragic in people saying TV commercials and advertisements cause themselves or others to be brainwashed. If you're 16/17+, if you don't have some sort of belief system of your own, then that's clearly your own issue and something you need to resolve.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Read all comments before you start calling people bigots.

First off.. you don't know what you are talking about, at all. Saying I am a bigot because I said I was hetero and have gay friends? That's insanely stupid. This is an anonymous site, I don't care what people think or I would hold my tongue entirely. I will let it slide because you probably didn't read all of my comments, but HAD you read them all you would see that I said at first that I don't like to use the "I am straight, but have gay friends disclaimer" because I don't care what anyone here thinks and it seems like a weakness, BUT in order to gain perspective it was important to know that I was heterosexual.

So you are absolutely ignorant if you think that my explaining that I was straight and had gay friends makes me a bigot. I am talking about my best friend in the world. If someone doesn't know I am straight then no one knows if I am talking about personal are observed persecution. It wasn't a disclaimer because I honestly could care less what anyone here thinks.

Yes.. I am certain there are more obnoxious straight people than obnoxious gay people, it is not unfounded. Simply because it's the numbers. There are more obnoxious heterosexuals than homosexuals because there are more heterosexuals, period. Count yourself among them regardless off your sexuality.

..of all the absurd things to try to "get me" on.
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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Homosexuality may be a SMALL part of nature, but in today's society....it's being forced and brainwashed into the undeveloped minds of our youth who have yet to experience life at a normal pace.

It's embedded in EVERYTHING we watch on tv, read and listen to. It may be in nature but is in no way natural. HETEROsexuality is what reproduces and creates life. If gay was so normal, humans wouldn't exist. Our asses were meant for one thing, and one thing only.

Before anyone goes on to say we can have children scientifically..........think about it ....because I'm sure the cavemen /women didn't have the technology yet.

I'm all for everyone's equality but seriously...people need to keep it to themselves and stop shoving it in everyone's faces.......This goes for all races, religions, sexual preferences and ones views and beliefs.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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I thought the OP was well said. A bit silly, we should all be able to laugh at ourselves once in a while. I don't understand gay people, but I don't need to. It isn't my body, or my mind and it makes no difference to me what people choose to do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. If two dudes fall in love with each other (or two girls) and they find some happiness and it doesn't oppose their beliefs...more power to them.

I will say though, I don't understand some of the flamboyance. I know it is probably a minority, but I do come across gay people that for some reason feel the need to "scream" their sexuality to the world. That does bother me. I don't go around letting my behavior be an obvious beacon for the fact that I love me some vagina. I mean, the loud obnoxious stereotypical flamboyance? Why? Or, the obvious accent to their speech that involves 'lisps'??? Or, the over-the-top feminine body language...I've noticed hundreds of gays that strut in such a dramatic way that I've never seen a female come close to. Those are the things that I don't understand.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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I'd like to thank the OP for this post. anybody that cannot see, or will not admit that there has been a neo-political agenda within the hommosexual community on a global scale for at least 20 years either does not want to admit it or just cant believe it happened.
It's not all about drag and glitter.

www.afterellen.com...

www.jstor.org...

www.theatlantic.com...

greens.org.au...



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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I always heard about the 'Gay Agenda' but was never really sure what it was about. Reading your post and analogy, along with the other context in which I heard the term, I now understand what it is all about, and I agree 100% with you.

To whoever doesn't understand the 'show' that gay people put on, I have an explanation. My friend Steven is like that. He has been ever since we grew up together. It's just the way he is.
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