Muppets bash Chick-fil-A over owners faith

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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Churches have every right to decide who they want to marry and who they don't want to marry and it's wrong to force churches to marry people they don't want to marry. People should go to a church to marry them.



We are discussing rights in America. Are you in America?

Who is forcing churches to marry anyone? A minister can refuse to marry anyone. And does not have to explain why.

A Justice of the Peace is different. That is a government position and they are required to perform all legal marriages.

There are plenty of churches waiting for the legal right to marry gays.

There are plenty of God believing gays. Do you think because you are gay - - you automatically give up the religion you were raised in?

How many hetero Christians do you know that do not have a Legal Government Marriage?




posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
The KKK were Democrats and liberals.



Can you keep it modern day? Because every single KKK member nowdays would identify themselves as conservative/republican.

It's the same stupid argument that republicans say "Oh, we're not racist, we freed the slaves".



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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I agree.

However, you're forgetting the DOMA.

The Defense Of marriage Act.

The government should stay out of marriage, but consider this, if government didn't stay out of marriage, where would a secular couple go to get married since a church wouldn't marry a secular couple if it were left up to only churches to marry people?

Marriage shouldn't be a religious institution.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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No we are not, you guys actually derailed the thread which was about the Muppet dissing this restaurant chain for being religious. You guys brought up homosexuals and homosexual marriage, and derailed the thread. Then you changed the goalposts again and made it about civil rights.

And civil rights is such an ambiguous statement.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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That picture about the KKK I responded to was not about the modern day.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by grey580

Why the LGBT community doesn't start a LGBT Church in order to marry people is beyond me.
That would certainly be the best way to fight fire with fire.

And under the constitution the government would have to keep their nose out of LGBT peoples business.


In America.

There are many many churches ready and willing to marry gays - - as soon as they legally can.

Many churches in states where same sex marriage is legal - - do perform the marriage.

Many many churches already perform Marriage Ceremonies for gays - - minus the legal license.

The "Marriage License" is a legal government contract. There is no god or religion in the "Marriage License".

Religious ideology is not a legal basis for discrimination of a government contract.


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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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“The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over 50 years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A (sic) that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors,” said a Facebook statement from the company. “Lisa Henson, our CEO, is personally a strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A (sic) to GLAAD [ a homosexual promotion organization].”


Jim Henson co isn't boycotting Chick-Fila for their religion. They are doing it because they donate to hate groups and openly push discriminatory policies towards gays.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Just remember, anybody who opposes homosexuals in any way shape or form are called hateful.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Well.. Jim Henson has been dead a long time, but he was a good, cool guy. I would guess his position would be "whatever makes people happy." Chic-Fil-A's owners are looony anyway.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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The gays are just as bad as the uber-Christians in their own way. They are ONLY interested that THEIR rights be equal to the greatest rights given to a group - NOT in equal rights for everyone. I have yet to see a group of gays protesting the tax inequality of an uncle who cannot leave his business to a nephew without huge taxes being levied as it is not direct lineage. Yet, they want their business considered equal property and inheritable by their surviving partner in an untaxed manner. I have yet to see a group of gays protesting the inability of parents to insure adult children (or visa versa) who live in the same household but yet they want to be able to insure their adult unrelated partner. Equal rights are equal rights - not just equal for them. We should be fighting less over what the term marriage means and considering more the ideas that you should be able to leave your property to anyone you choose without taxation up to a certain amount equal to the parent-child laws. We should be allowing anyone to insure any other person on their health/life policy so long as they foot the bill for it and the parent or adult beneficiary approves it.

And while I'm in the middle of a rant, why is it that gays demand in-your-face social events in public venues and engage in behavior which would get straight people arrested? I remember when we planned a trip to Disney World and it just happened to coincide with a Gay Day (which we were unaware). Our kids had to be subjected to several same-sex partners engaging in very inappropriate sexual conduct. Really??? Is it ever OK for a couple to be standing around in a public place with their hands down each other's pants and kissing? Look at the kinky stuff which goes down in the Key West parades - would that be allowed at the Macy's Christmas parade? If they want respect and equality, they need to behave in a respectful manner and fight for equality for everyone...not just themselves.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by RealSpoke
 


Just remember, anybody who opposes homosexuals in any way shape or form are called hateful.



Take what you said, rewind the clock a couple decades, and you would be this guy:
"Just remember, anybody who opposes blacks in any way, shape, or form are called racists"

Same bigotry drives both. I can't beleive we are honestly so ignorant. I mean I feel like this issue has been dragged out of the dark ages into the future. One day in the next 10 or 20 years people will think the same of how people treat gays as we do of how people treated blacks, and before that women.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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Yeah, the "Muppet" company is just being politically correct. BS. They are exercising their rights as well. If it is politically correct not to due business with those attempting to deny basic rights to another group, count me among the politically correct, just as I will count you among the right wing faux Christian bigots.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by RealSpoke
 


Just remember, anybody who opposes homosexuals in any way shape or form are called hateful.



People who understand Equal Rights and support Equal Rights - - - are not required to accept or agree with homosexuality.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by grey580
 


I agree.

However, you're forgetting the DOMA.

The Defense Of marriage Act.

The government should stay out of marriage, but consider this, if government didn't stay out of marriage, where would a secular couple go to get married since a church wouldn't marry a secular couple if it were left up to only churches to marry people?

Marriage shouldn't be a religious institution.



There are many options to getting married.
My friends got married on the beach under palm trees with a Ordained Minister.

Another friend of mine became a minister and married another set of friends in a banquet hall. He gave a great speech comparing a marriage to beer. it was awesome.

Marriage is both religious and civil. I don't think it should be left up to just churches to marry someone either.
Heck my wife is a notary and she can marry people in this state.

we need options for everyone. And everyone needs to be treated equally.
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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People who do criticize blacks and minority groups in any way shape or form are called racists these days.

You can't have an open and honest debate about the wrongs other groups do without some liberal labeling you a hater of some sort.

Which is wrong. Because they are the most critical and insulting people of all. They regularly call all conservatives bigots and haters all the time.

But I guess it's okay for them ebcause they are special people.

NOT!



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by mjfromga
I know the Cathy's - live in the same area. I can tell you that they have given more to promote the public good than Henson if you want to live in a lawless society filled with child pornography, rampant hose who stand up for what's right.
child porn rampant crime and immortality have nothing to do with this thread.??



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Yes, they are.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by mjfromga
The gays are just as bad as the uber-Christians in their own way. They are ONLY interested that THEIR rights be equal to the greatest rights given to a group - NOT in equal rights for everyone


The legal protection of marriage belongs to all.


I have yet to see a group of gays protesting the tax inequality of an uncle who cannot leave his business to a nephew without huge taxes being levied as it is not direct lineage.




How many hetero people do you know that have any great interest in your tax inequality concern?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by Annee
 


Yes, they are.



NO - they're not.

Equal Rights has nothing to do with accepting homosexuality. Its about Equal Rights.

Same thing with Pro Choice. I've spoken to many who are against abortion - - - but strongly support Right of Choice.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone

You can't have an open and honest debate about the wrongs other groups do without some liberal labeling you a hater of some sort.





How many times have you used "Liberal" and "Hate" - - in this thread alone?

And you're complaining you can't have an honest open debate?





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