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I've made up my mind on whom I am voting for in November

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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Gonna hold my nose and vote for..........Gary Johnson the Libertarian candidate and former governor of New Mexico. I know that he has no chance of winning and it's unlikely he'll even get any electoral votes. However, people are more pissed at Dems and repubs than I remember in my whole 35 years. The reason I mainly intend to vote libertarian is that if candidates receive a certain percentage of the popular vote the party they represent becomes eligible for "federal matching funds" in the following election. I wholeheartedly agree that voting really doesn't mean anything especially voting for a D or an R, but I'm not aware of any state where only a D and an R are on the ballot. I'd encourage anyone who doesn't like Obama or Romney to find out what third parties will be on your states ballot and give them your vote. Be it Libertarian, Green, or Constitution casting your vote for something other than the two faced single party system that we have had for over a century is the best way to raise your middle finger to the D's and R's.




posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Yeah, Jill Stein and the guy from the Justice Party seem really appealing compared to Obama and Romney. Of course I'm under no illusion that they don't stand a chance, and given the choice Obama is clearly the better choice than Romney...but still, it would rock to have more than just 2 choices that stand a realistic chance. The media play a HUUUUUUUGE role in this because it seems almost as if they don't want to confuse voters by giving more than 2 candidates airtime.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by CoolerAbdullah786
 


Yeah, Jill Stein and the guy from the Justice Party seem really appealing compared to Obama and Romney. Of course I'm under no illusion that they don't stand a chance, and given the choice Obama is clearly the better choice than Romney...but still, it would rock to have more than just 2 choices that stand a realistic chance. The media play a HUUUUUUUGE role in this because it seems almost as if they don't want to confuse voters by giving more than 2 candidates airtime.


Jill Stein doesn't stand a chance? Why waste your vote on a loser?

I really don't see Jill Stein participating in the presidential debates in October.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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the u.s. is modelled after roman democracy, they had no political party because they were all romans, focused on roman interests.

in america, its about republican or democratic interests, not america as a whole.

the only requirement is that you be american, the party should be america the country.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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Good for you.
I still of course encourage everyone to vote for RP, and a lot of that is actually because of his stance on Israel. He doesn't want us supporting them (or anyone else really) militarily or financially and he's been unfairly called an anti-semite for it.

Sorry I had to plug, but seriously good on you for not falling for Obama (I did too the first round).



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
Good for you.
I still of course encourage everyone to vote for RP, and a lot of that is actually because of his stance on Israel. He doesn't want us supporting them (or anyone else really) militarily or financially and he's been unfairly called an anti-semite for it.

Sorry I had to plug, but seriously good on you for not falling for Obama (I did too the first round).


The United States stands with Israel.

- Always has and always will. -



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

I think i speak for 99.9% of all ATS members when i say " Who is Jill Stein ???"


You might as well vote for Ron Paul.

He won't win either.



It's not about whether they will win or not. Of course I'd love for her to win, but it's about casting my vote and making it count. It's not about just going with one of the two options chosen for us because they have the bigger chance of winning. I'm not going to hold my nose and just vote for Obama or Romney.

And I'm pretty sure we're all aware of the Electoral College. There's no need for snarky comments.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Jill Stein doesn't stand a chance? Why waste your vote on a loser?

I really don't see Jill Stein participating in the presidential debates in October.


Because some of us want to vote for those we agree with, not just those who are more than likely going to win. By your standard, then why even bother to vote for Romney because he's not going to win either. He's boring and people cannot identify with him. Plus he is going up against the incumbent which is always hard to do. He's basically the 2012 version of the 04 John Kerry. I mean Kerry couldn't even beat George Bush who was already pretty unpopular at that time.

Do you have anything to contribute other than negative, naysaying, and laughing at people with emoticons?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
Good for you.
I still of course encourage everyone to vote for RP, and a lot of that is actually because of his stance on Israel. He doesn't want us supporting them (or anyone else really) militarily or financially and he's been unfairly called an anti-semite for it.

Sorry I had to plug, but seriously good on you for not falling for Obama (I did too the first round).


Well, Jill Stein has the same stance on Israel (and in fact she calls for holding everyone accountable in Israel/Palestine). I agree with more her stances than Ron Paul's.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by totallackey
Congratulations on voting your conscience. You are to be commended for that action and stance.


Meanwhile, while a small number of people "vote their conscience", it ends up being within the margin of victory for the socialist pig that is in office now, So yeah, go right ahead and waste your vote for someone 99.9% of people have NEVER heard of. We need 4 more years of Obama and his "change". You do realize that he is changing the US to look like Stalinist USSR, right?


Last time I checked, in Stalinist Russia, you did not have an option of "voting your conscience." You had a choice between a gulag and Siberia...



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by CoolerAbdullah786

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Jill Stein doesn't stand a chance? Why waste your vote on a loser?

I really don't see Jill Stein participating in the presidential debates in October.


Because some of us want to vote for those we agree with, not just those who are more than likely going to win. By your standard, then why even bother to vote for Romney because he's not going to win either. He's boring and people cannot identify with him. Plus he is going up against the incumbent which is always hard to do. He's basically the 2012 version of the 04 John Kerry. I mean Kerry couldn't even beat George Bush who was already pretty unpopular at that time.

Do you have anything to contribute other than negative, naysaying, and laughing at people with emoticons?


No. They do not have anything to contribute to the topic, other than narrow minded, juvenile, stupid, claptrap...sheer idiocy at its pinnacle...and a large reason why the US is such a political quagmire...



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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Looking at her position on the issues, she looks pretty close to Obama.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Jill Stein??? Who?


Just a few gems from Jill

Stimulus plan was not big enough. (Whoa!! let's not repeat that "shovel ready" fiasco)
Economy that is not fully inclusive is inherently unstable.
Incarcerating poor & minorities has become big business (I ask, who is committing the crimes) (let them go due to race or income status?)
Marijuana is dangerous because it's illegal, not vice-versa. ( how does that work? Alcohol is legal and STILL dangerous)
Establish basic right to free college education. (FREE? NOTHING is FREE WTF. I'm not paying for your college)
Right to a tuition-free public education, pre-K thru college (there's that FREE word again. I call it the F word)
Stop blaming teachers for "underperforming schools" (What? Teachers teach for at least 7 hours a day)
$200M for 50,000 green jobs: address both supply demand. (Didn't Obama already try that? Green energy is a failed investment unless she want to give the money to the Chinese)
Maintain abortion rights & provide free birth control (There's the F word again she must have a money tree)
PACs connect campaigns with rich donors, & disconnect public. ( I'll agree with her)
Cut military 50%; spend that $500B on economy (Now is not the time. The world is a powder keg right now)
Provide a legal path to citizenship for immigrant residents. ( we already have a legal path for those who wish to follow)
Tea Party hijacked by funding from major corporations (really?)
Join with Occupy movement to throw off rule by the 1%(clearly she is unaware of the big players behind Occupy. She should take note from her statement about the tea party)
Social Security is not in crisis; and it's not a handout ( Who says SS is not in a crisis?)
Replace “trickle down” with 50% tax cuts on lower incomes. (nearly 50% of the population pay Zero Federal income tax already) What more can you cut for them??
Right to affordable housing: (That's what got most of the nation into trouble to begin with. Unqualified borrowers in sub prime mortgages. Plenty of cheap foreclosures available now to those who qualify to buy them.)

That's enough. Please vote for her if you must!! Please. That's 1,000 fewer votes for Obama....



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