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Originally posted by longbow
To the F-22 being "flown by computers", well every modern plane is. And I think older naturally unstable 4th gen planes are actually more vulnerable to EMP, because they cannot fly at all without computer corrections. F-22 seems to be more stable design than 4th gen aircrafts.
Originally posted by StellarX
If you are the United states and can invest in such expensive ideas.... I am not fully convinced that this plane is not simply overly expensive for the task or will be deployed in sufficient numbers ( turn around time etc) to affect the outcome of a strategic war against Russia and even more uncertain if this capability is required for the very many lesser enemies... If you can buy half a dozen or more Su-27's/Mig 29's/ Mig-31's for the same price ( not even mentioning upgrading much older planes with current technology to absolutely swamp the F-22's) does it make much sense?
I am of the opinion that a major strategic war will not simply end because of the use of nuclear weapons, and will in fact go on as factories go on producing, and then lesser planes in larger numbers is probably preferable to something like the F-22 which required is much wider resource and technological base for production.
I am to be the pilot i would pick the F-22 by a massive margin as everything i know tells me that this is in fact a great airplane when used against symmetrical forces. In terms of picking it as a strategic weapon to fight and win a world war I'm not so sure i would pick it had i my nations best interest in mind....
Originally posted by JFrazier
The F-22 will mostly act as a force multiplier for the US Air Force. During the Cold War it would have been a one to one replacement for the F-15 but now most are realizing that it can do many jobs effectively that are outside of the F-15's realm. It doesn't just have one mission in the combat theatre these days.
The numbers arguement could go on forever but there are multitudes of F-16, F/A-18, and later F-35s for the role of the common fighter. The F-22 alone will not change the tide of a war but it can change how the war is fought in some areas.
They are doing pretty good these days in terms of maintenence. Being brand-new has an upside. I remember someone posting a report about that but I'd expect the Raptor's turn-around time to be at least as good as the F-15s.
The LM plant in Marietta wouldn't have problems cranking up production in wartime if needed. Don't forget that the Super Hornet, Eagle, and Viper plants are still open for rapid production.
Again, the Raptor is a force multiplier sending information from the battlefield to other planes in the area and coordinating attacks.
It's never been a strategic weapon though. The project title told that from the start.
Originally posted by indian_sukhoi
Fisrt of all, The Su-47 was never built to challenge or Compete the Raptor. It was a Just a Prototype of the PAKFA to make Foriegn Countires(India) to fund the program which the Russians are still Struggling.
Second, The Su-47 will never be Inducted into any Airforce and its Unfair to Compare it with the Raptor.
The Su-47 is just a technology demonstrater like the X series of jets from nasa
The Su-47 has no weapon systems so unless the pilot opens the cockpit and throws the flight manual at the F-22, the Berkut would be doomed
Originally posted by BlackWidow23
Add to that the confirmed reports that the fighter will be smaller than the Su-27 which is 50,000lbs, you get a thrust:weight ratio WELL OVER 1.5.
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Yea.. I mean if you have alien sheathing...
Originally posted by Irvinraw
didn't we have this advantage with the F14? This jet could shoot down planes before the bogies realized they were in the air because of the advanced radar and the phoenix missile. However, later in the F14's life cycle the Navy indicated that the Phoenix missile system useless. It was not used much.