AIA Distances Themselves from Richard Gage

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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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Washington, D.C., where the headquarters of the American Institute of Architects is located was recently rented (the auditorium that is available to rent by the public) by Richard Gage - Founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. He did this to show his latest "Faux"-umentary:

9/11: Explosive Evidence—Experts Speak Out: Final Edition

So, how many Architects showed up? ZERO! Yes, not a single architect showed up to watch his latest film. At the screening, Gage said:

"I can’t tell you how grateful we were to have been accepted to be here in the boardroom at the national headquarters,” Gage said. “We hope this is the beginning of a very productive relationship.”

Yet, head of media relations for the AIA Scott Frank said:

“We don’t have any relationship with his organization whatsoever”

“It is somewhat troubling that he sort of portrays the notion that we have a relationship when we certainly do not,”

“There is absolutely zero relationship … [between our groups], nor will there ever be in the future.”

www.architectmagazine.com...




posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Six Sigma
Washington, D.C., where the headquarters of the American Institute of Architects is located was recently rented (the auditorium that is available to rent by the public) by Richard Gage - Founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. He did this to show his latest "Faux"-umentary:

9/11: Explosive Evidence—Experts Speak Out: Final Edition

So, how many Architects showed up? ZERO! Yes, not a single architect showed up to watch his latest film. At the screening, Gage said:

"I can’t tell you how grateful we were to have been accepted to be here in the boardroom at the national headquarters,” Gage said. “We hope this is the beginning of a very productive relationship.”

Yet, head of media relations for the AIA Scott Frank said:

“We don’t have any relationship with his organization whatsoever”

“It is somewhat troubling that he sort of portrays the notion that we have a relationship when we certainly do not,”

“There is absolutely zero relationship … [between our groups], nor will there ever be in the future.”

www.architectmagazine.com...




What a load of cobblers! He says in the post you made “We hope this is the beginning of a very productive relationship.”

So he never said there was any relationship, he just says he hopes it will be the beginning of one!

Typical disinfo nonsense from you again. Are you afraid of Richard Gage? Are you afraid to approach hime personally with your obsessive grieviences you have with him?

Adults don't air their personal laundry on forums, they deal with it man to man, like real men! Deal with it, speak to the man if you have issues. It sure does seem you have some issues.
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by thegameisup


What a load of cobblers! He says in the post you made “We hope this is the beginning of a very productive relationship.”

So he never said there was any relationship, he just says he hopes it will be the beginning of one!


I didn't say he did. He does use the AIA in his title on all of his paraphernalia. He was also reprimanded in the past for abuse of the AIA symbol.


Typical disinfo nonsense from you again.


Care to show me where I lied?



Are you afraid of Richard Gage? Are you afraid to approach hime personally with your obsessive grieviences you have with him?


Adults don't air their personal laundry on forums, they deal with it man to man, like real men! Deal with it, speak to the man if you have issues. It sure does seem you have some issues.


I met with Richard Gage about 2 1/2 years ago in Cambridge, Massachusetts and we chatted for several minutes. I have mentioned this in the past. He was unable to answer many of my questions with his response being "That's why we need a new investigation."

This is me and Mr. Gage:


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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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ROFL


I think that is great!

Now Gage should try that with the Physics Profession.

We are talking about THREE HUNDRED YEAR OLD PHYSICS here. Sure either Gage is a liar or the entire profession of architects is a farce. But the Laws of Physics do not even care about physicists.

This is an intellectual/psychological issue going to the core of Western culture. Do people think what they are told because nitwits can wave degrees in their faces or do 7th and 8th graders accept that adults are telling them a BIG but obviously STUPID LIE.

Lying about grade school physics is REALLY STUPID. Architects that won't even talk about steel distribution in skyscrapers when tall narrow buildings have to hold themselves up is pretty ridiculous. So people who think they are smart because they conform to the majority just don't understand how stupid the majority is.

psik



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 02:26 PM
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So, not a single architect showed up to a rented room at AIA headquarters? What a laugh. Gage is probably raking it in though. I wonder how much of his spiel he actually believes.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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Do people think what they are told because nitwits can wave degrees in their faces....

Well...yes. Its called specialization. It kind of got us to where we are today. We believe electrical engineers when they tell us what size wires are needed to bring power from the plants to our homes. We believe civil engineers when they it is or is not safe to drive a particular truck across a certain road. etc. Not to say that they are never wrong but we do not dismiss the entire product of a process just because one or two incidents of error can be demonstrated. And when you can wave an appropriate degree in our faces and, like the engineers above, DEMONSTRATE with math and science why you think something may be wrong, then maybe someone may take the time to listen.

or do 7th and 8th graders accept that adults are telling them a BIG but obviously STUPID LIE.

7th and 8th graders live their lives based on the notion that EVERYTHING adults tell them is a big, obvious, stupid lie.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
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So, not a single architect showed up to a rented room at AIA headquarters? What a laugh. Gage is probably raking it in though. I wonder how much of his spiel he actually believes.



Gage made 74K in 2010. As far as I know, he hasn't filed for 2011. I would like to know how many of his "sustaining members" (the ones that donate monthly) are licensed Structural Engineers or Architects.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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Gage made 80K in 2010. Seeing that he didn't file until November of last year, I suspect we wont see anything until the same time this year.
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by hooper
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Do people think what they are told because nitwits can wave degrees in their faces....

Well...yes. Its called specialization. It kind of got us to where we are today.


Yeah, the economy coming apart.

With double-entry accounting being 700 years old and computers everywhere the economics profession can't tell the American people what they lose on the depreciation of automobiles every year. That wouldn't be $300,000,000,000 each year at a guess? Our educators can't suggest that accounting be mandatory in our high schools. No 4 years of English literature is so much better for SPECIALIZATION. Shakespeare is only 500 years old after all.

Did you notice that the 43 anniversary of the Moon landing just went by. Maybe you were distracted by the nutcase shooting up Batman.

But the economics profession can't talk about the planned obsolescence of automobiles even though John Kenneth Galbraith wrote about it ten years before the Moon landing. The book is The Affluent Society, check it out. What do automobiles and Moon landings have to do with Physics? You know, mass, velocity, acceleration, gravity. Yeah, grade school kids don't have to deal with gravity.

Architects need for 7th and 8th graders to not understand 300 year old Newtonian physics in the nation that put men on the Moon. But then maybe dummies want other people to be dumber than they are. It makes them feel intelligent. We can't have grade school kids figuring out that people with college degrees are stupid.

www.youtube.com...

Simple science isn't for certain "educated" individuals.

psik



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:21 PM
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For those not wanting to read the article in Architects Magazine...


The accusations of Gage’s organization are the typical hodgepodge of pseudo-scientific claims




www.architectmagazine.com...



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by Six Sigma
For those not wanting to read the article in Architects Magazine...


The accusations of Gage’s organization are the typical hodgepodge of pseudo-scientific claims




www.architectmagazine.com...


Yeah, read the article by all means. This is the supreme problem in this society.


it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.


psik



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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But the economics profession can't talk about the planned obsolescence of automobiles even though John Kenneth Galbraith wrote about it ten years before the Moon landing.

I think they make them 'good enough' to get beyond the warranty period because of profit and gas milage reasons. Not because they 'plan' on the cars falling apart. Besides most customers don't like driving cars over 10 years old.
Can you name another mode of transport that doesn't require a major tear down within 10 years?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by samkent
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But the economics profession can't talk about the planned obsolescence of automobiles even though John Kenneth Galbraith wrote about it ten years before the Moon landing.


Can you name another mode of transport that doesn't require a major tear down within 10 years?



Walking?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by samkent
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But the economics profession can't talk about the planned obsolescence of automobiles even though John Kenneth Galbraith wrote about it ten years before the Moon landing.

I think they make them 'good enough' to get beyond the warranty period because of profit and gas milage reasons. Not because they 'plan' on the cars falling apart. Besides most customers don't like driving cars over 10 years old.
Can you name another mode of transport that doesn't require a major tear down within 10 years?


So everything is garbage so you think it's OK for cars to be garbage.

So what does any of that have to do with economists not computing and reporting the depreciation of automobiles every year? It is just another case of EXPERTS leaving out information and MORONS don't notice.

www.foxnews.com...

Then our educators mange to NOT suggest mandatory accounting in our schools.

psik
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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So what does any of that have to do with economists not computing and reporting the depreciation of automobiles every year?


What are you babbling about? Is this like the physicist thing? Do all the worlds economists report directly to you every year about what they have been doing? If not, how do you know what they are and are not computing? And why would the report that anyway? Which depreciation model do you want them to use? Do you want them to use an accounting model? A market model?

Manufacturers build what the marketing people tell them they think people will buy and at what price. Can you design a car that will last longer? Sure, no problem. But that cost money. And before you committ billions and billions of dollars to making a model car who's greatest quality is longevity you better know for sure you can sell it and sell it at a profit.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by hooper
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So what does any of that have to do with economists not computing and reporting the depreciation of automobiles every year?


What are you babbling about? Is this like the physicist thing? Do all the worlds economists report directly to you every year about what they have been doing?


No, it is what economists have not been reporting. Like physicists not talking about the center of mass of the tilted top portion of the south tower.

Look up the NDP or NNP, Net Domestic Product or Net National Product, in any economics book written since 1960. Economists subtract the Depreciation of Capital Goods but all they talk about in public is GDP.

But cars purchased by consumers run on physics. They wear out. They DEPRECIATE.

But economists ignore Demand Side Depreciation and do not compute it or report it.

It is a far bigger deal than the World Trade Center. But it says something about this culture. Experts can leave out whatever information they want and MORONS believe will them. Trust in AUTHORITY!

9/11 is just the most OBVIOUSLY STUPID BIG LIE in history. But it is not the most important.

psik
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:40 PM
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I'm surprised no truthers have really commented on this article.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Six Sigma
I didn't say he did. He does use the AIA in his title on all of his paraphernalia. He was also reprimanded in the past for abuse of the AIA symbol.

Care to show me where I lied?

I met with Richard Gage about 2 1/2 years ago in Cambridge, Massachusetts and we chatted for several minutes. I have mentioned this in the past. He was unable to answer many of my questions with his response being "That's why we need a new investigation."

This is me and Mr. Gage:


edit on 23-7-2012 by Six Sigma because: (no reason given)


You are posting something that implies he said something that he didn't, imo this is misleading people.

Maybe Richard does not have all the answers, ands if you have questions, then you need to direct them at NIST or one of the government agencies.

We do need a new investigation, you may be happy with NIST/FEMA/9/11 Commission, you may believe eveything you are told by the government, but many people do not.

If there is nothing to hide then no one will object to a thorough investigation, because first time round they did a very poor job, that many people are not satisfied with.

BTW, nice to see a picture of who I'm talking with, I give you respect for putting a face to the username, it makes things a little more human.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by Six Sigma
I'm surprised no truthers have really commented on this article.


It says something to comment on?

Does it specify something significant that is correct in any of the government reports?

Does it specify something significant that is incorrect about what Gage says?

It is a lot of vague bullsh# implying things without saying much.

psik



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by thegameisup

You are posting something that implies he said something that he didn't, imo this is misleading people.


I ask that you read the article. Then comment.


Maybe Richard does not have all the answers, ands if you have questions, then you need to direct them at NIST or one of the government agencies.


The questions I asked were about his presentation. Parts where I found him in error. I questioned him about former members of his clan that left after he failed to answer their questions. He had nothing,... He shook my hand and thanked me for being a "good sport".


We do need a new investigation,


No, "we" don't.


you may be happy with NIST/FEMA/9/11 Commission,


Happy? I'd say that I have most of the answers I was looking for. I would like some clarification on some others...but I know the "cover your ass" parts will never be known.


you may believe eveything you are told by the government, but many people do not.


I personally have never met a person that told me that they believed everything the government told them.



If there is nothing to hide then no one will object to a thorough investigation,


There is nothing to gain...that is the point.


because first time round they did a very poor job, that many people are not satisfied with.


That's your opinion and the opinion of a very small majority of the US population. NYCAN was unable to get a few thousand signatures on a petition to get a ballot question added for a new investigation.


BTW, nice to see a picture of who I'm talking with, I give you respect for putting a face to the username, it makes things a little more human.


I'm not just a troll that hides behind a computer... like some people think. I just don't give out my name due to some mentally challenged people on here. (ie: Bob Balsamo from Pilots 4 9/11 Truth)





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