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Judge seals Batman shooting case

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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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why would it need to be sealed up when he was caught on the Sean with guns and then tells the police his flat was rigged to explode sounds to me he has already pleaded guilty




posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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Excuse me, the guy was caught in the act.....is there going to have to be a jury?
I would expect a confession is forthcomming aong with his manifesto or whatever...like brevik in norway.....
Surely the cops know how to get him to incriminate himself.......



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Excuse me, the guy was caught in the act.....is there going to have to be a jury?

Unless he plea bargains......
In cases like these media circuses, the state will not offer you much of a deal though.
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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no im say the girl that was interviewed was have you not seen the interview im talking about and im not saying the whole thing was made up but if you watch the cop doing his speech there is something not right about the way he is acting



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by stirling
Excuse me, the guy was caught in the act....


Actually I heard them say he was out behind the building when he was caught.
Not "in the act".

"The act" = him shooting people.

Anyways, it doesn't surprise me they seal this shut.
What's next gag orders on anyone who knows anything for telling us about what's going on?

Hell I don't even think this crap is constitutional, but we wouldn't know because we are so numb to having these types of totalitarian policies all the time.

How can a court of supposed law and justice, legitimately tell a citizen "You cannot say such and such to anyone"? It can't. They have no authority to restrict speech at all, hell even the state and federal legislatures don't even have that power.

Even if the govt had no hand in this, they are making all of the wrong choices and giving us additional reasons to be suspicious of them.

I guess we can say realistically now that "this is a cover up".



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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On topic:

The whole thing smells like yesterdays trash. There are far too many inconsistencies with the case to begin with as far as the shooter goes. Too many things don't make sense. I guess we'll have to see how this plays out. It especially doesn't make sense that he was talking to the cops, and now gives the silent treatment?

Off topic: I fully understand your reason for doing such. However, claiming yourself to be of higher mind than another poster just shows how inept you are at accepting feedback from all corners. If your gonna report someone do it with a little less pride attached to it and use a little more principal than coming off as some arrogant Mensa reject. If your gonna report someone just do so and move on. No need to make yourself look just as much a ass as the poster you propose to reject.

It makes you as a OP look tacky to do so....and you surely can't be tacky, you have a skull with flames for your avatar....which makes you malicious intent quite clear.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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This is not entirely true. There are times when I cannot keep my eyes still; I have to be checking everything out at times always seeing what else is around. I do not know if it is a nervous thing, a small bit of ADAH or whatever it is, or just out right boredom.

I have heard the eye thing before and always claim bunk. The not being able to look someone in the eye can be a lot of things. As a kid my dad yelled at me to look at him when talking to him, then instantly yelled at me for staring at him. Some days I just cannot look people in the eye other days I can. It has nothing to do with truth and is nothing I can control.

Raist



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Kastogere
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On topic:

The whole thing smells like yesterdays trash. There are far too many inconsistencies with the case to begin with as far as the shooter goes. Too many things don't make sense. I guess we'll have to see how this plays out. It especially doesn't make sense that he was talking to the cops, and now gives the silent treatment?

Off topic: I fully understand your reason for doing such. However, claiming yourself to be of higher mind than another poster just shows how inept you are at accepting feedback from all corners. If your gonna report someone do it with a little less pride attached to it and use a little more principal than coming off as some arrogant Mensa reject. If your gonna report someone just do so and move on. No need to make yourself look just as much a ass as the poster you propose to reject.

It makes you as a OP look tacky to do so....and you surely can't be tacky, you have a skull with flames for your avatar....which makes you malicious intent quite clear.


What's that word I'm looking for when people toss out accusations against other people without knowing the pretext of the argument that they are commenting on? There was no pride in my statements. The man was responding with the intellectual capacity of a 5 year old, as can be seen by the mods removing nearly ALL of his posts. I called him out on it, to help drive the thread away from his nonsense.

This raises questions about your credibility here, does it not? How often do you stand up for people that tell others to suck their ****, etc?
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by stirling
Excuse me, the guy was caught in the act.....is there going to have to be a jury?
I would expect a confession is forthcomming aong with his manifesto or whatever...like brevik in norway.....
Surely the cops know how to get him to incriminate himself.......


If he was caught in the act, he would have been killed on the spot. The fact that we're creeping up on 72 hours, and not a single charge has been filed, would seem to disagree with your theory.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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granted there is going to be the odd case were this does not apply but in general if somebody is telling you some thing or just in conversation and they can never make eye contact with you then they are usually hiding something from you



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by mattdel
The fact that we're creeping up on 72 hours, and not a single charge has been filed, would seem to disagree with your theory.


He doesn't even have his first court appearance until Monday.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:59 PM
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by mattdel

Originally posted by stirling
Excuse me, the guy was caught in the act.....is there going to have to be a jury?
I would expect a confession is forthcomming aong with his manifesto or whatever...like brevik in norway.....
Surely the cops know how to get him to incriminate himself.......


If he was caught in the act, he would have been killed on the spot. The fact that we're creeping up on 72 hours, and not a single charge has been filed, would seem to disagree with your theory.


I can agree on this, all we know is that he was caught in the parking lot, the fact he was wearing a mask in the theater would make him very difficult to identify by witnesses. And all other evidence would amount to circumstantial at best as in a court you have to prove that he's the one that did it all for each charge to stick.

Again there's too many holes in this case for my liking, probably why its sealed...so no one sees the holes.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:01 PM
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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I went and dug up some lingo at wiki for us to review.

Record Sealing

Look at this:

In many cases, if you seal your record, you gain the legal right to deny or fail to acknowledge anything to do with the arrest and the legal proceedings from the case itself.[2]


So basically by stamping a piece of paper, you can legally lie about the truth and it's totally acceptable?
Looks like this is a law a criminal invented to facilitate his criminal activity.

Everyone automatically has the right to remain silent, no one can force you to say anything.
But to have a "legal right to deny", that is legal lying straight up.
It's completely unacceptable for a Court of Law and Justice to act this way!

And then under that it continues:


Records are commonly sealed in a number of situations:
Sealed birth records (usually for so-called closed adoption, in which the birthparents' identity is usually anonymous)
Juvenile criminal records may be sealed
Other types of cases involving juveniles may be sealed, anonymized, or pseudonymized ("impounded"); e.g., child sex offense or custody cases
Cases using witness protection information may be partly sealed
Cases involving trade secrets
Cases involving state secrets


I put the important part I would like everyone to question and consider in bold.

I can't believe this society accepts legalized lying. That's not legitimate and it's not justice, it's still lying no matter which way you slice it down.

Something about this needs to be altered and improved upon or redacted because I want a fair system based on good. I can't see using evil methods to achieve anything good, it just doesn't work and always includes negative side effects.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:17 PM
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Everyone knows that 100 round mags are not worth crap. I guess the government does not tell the serial shooters that.

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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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The case is sealed because the shooter is suppose to be dead from a shootout with police or with suicide.
This causes a lot of problems for those who orchestrated it as you could imagine.

Or it's to prevent a jury pool from being tainted.

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