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not an ounce of irony in my statement, just the facts.
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by Honor93
are you even aware that when the public did not fear the government as much as they do now, gun ownership was at the lowest levels ever recorded in history?
Are you even aware of how much irony there is in what you just said?
And anyway - I'm not in this thread to argue for disarmament
:-)
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by ImaFungi
We keep our arms because our founding fathers said it is necessary to keep tyrannical government in check and also to protect ourselves and loved ones. You cannot let one lunatic set the standard for the rest of us. We love our movies and we love our guns. We are uniquely American and will die to defend our way of life!
Originally posted by WonOunce
I dont know if we should own guns or not. I personally could careless because i don't own one or see the point in owning one. One thing I am sure of though is that when our forefathers wrote this into our Constitution there were no tanks or airplanes and guns in the hands of millions could actually keep a tyrannical government in check. Today our numbers, our voice not our weapons are what help keep the government in check. Arming citizens with some hand guns wont do much against smart bombs and tanks. Look at the middle east. Every person there is armed with an AK47 and I am pretty sure we took over two countries with in a few weeks,.
Originally posted by WonOunce
So we are not allowed to use current events to back up arguments now? So I suppose we shouldn't of used 9/11 to attack "terrorists" or use Romney not revealing his taxes to attack his bid for the presidency. ATS is becoming more and more worthless every day.
Originally posted by muse7
We're talking about GUN CONTROL. What's so bad about implementing more laws, background checks and overall more CONTROL over high powered assault rifles?
Originally posted by WonOunce
reply to post by Donkey_Dean
Is the opposite not also possible? One man walks into a room armed. Starts shooting. In the confusion you as an another armed man starts shooting. Then another and another. Soon the room becomes clouded with chaos. Who is the original shooter? How do you know the right man is dead? How do you know your aim is so true you yourself wouldn't cause more innocent people to die? How do people know who to run away from? Vigilante justice is looked down on for a reason, and that's because we are not trained to handle these situations.
Originally posted by okyouwin
Gus are so much more efficient than pencils. although pencils have killed quit a few, and hundred round mags are best of all. I understand the need to keep your gun, and all you upstanding guys, thank God you got em. I'm just worried about those who want to shoot people in a movie theater Seems easy to get. Maybe too easy. Some people shouldn't have these things, don't ya think. Willy Nilly distribution of the equalizer, even in a well regimented militia. seems foolish. It surly needs some discussion Cool headed discussion. We are talking about firearms.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I will not give up any of my guns willingly. If they want them, take them. Put me in jail. I won't comply with any requests there, either. I will be the rock that my government breaks itself against.
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I will not give up any of my guns willingly. If they want them, take them. Put me in jail. I won't comply with any requests there, either. I will be the rock that my government breaks itself against.
That is why, If I ever move, out of the State, I live in, I am moving to Texas. Something about you Texans, that scream Liberty............
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by chr0naut
U.S. most armed country with 90 guns per 100 people
U.S. citizens own 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies. About 4.5 million of the 8 million new guns manufactured worldwide each year are purchased in the United States, it said.
Surely? 270 million are a lot of guns. How many accidental and "heat of the moment" shootings are there? You tell us. Then compare those accidents against ladder accidents, or grease fire accidents. Surely? Come back with some data to bear that out.