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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by SM2
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Just so you know, as I know you would never trouble yourself with learning anything unless Chris Matthews told you too....A machine gun and a full auto assault weapon are the same thing. One and the same. So, your question was like asking...
Would you rather have a car or an automobile?
Actually it is more like calling both a car and a truck a vehicle. An assault rifle can be fully automatic (keep firing with one sustained pull of the trigger as long as you have ammo) or select fire (2 or 3 round bursts) and is a carryable rifle platform (usually 5.56mm or 7.62mm) while a machine gun can be fitted with a tripod (as can assault weapons for shooting prone) or vehicle mounted (larger and heavier platform and usually .30 or .50 cal).
Sorry...I'm not big into gun porn so I don't know the subtle differences.
Actually...I'm not sorry at all...I am glad I don't know the difference.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by macman
Don't need the Constitution to state as such. Anyone with any background in Firearms knows such things. A Nuclear Missile is not a firearm. Nor is it "arms".
By who's definition???
webster-dictionary.net...
Definition of Arms
1. Instruments or weapons of offense or defense.
And I swear nukes were part of the "arms" race...were they not???
You keep saying "firearms"...and yet that isn't in the Constitution anywhere.
then please explain why we "own" them already ??
You are an extremist if you are advocating that you think citizens should be allowed to own a nuke...because that is not in the mainstream of pro-2nd amendment advocacy...hence...making your opinion extreme.
No. I don't believe a single soul should be allowed to own nukes. A single soul. Get it? This is the profound meaning of the Second Amendment. The Peoples right to keep and bear arms is so they may defend themselves from tyranny, including any domestic enemies they face. That the U.S. government owns the largest cache of nuclear weapons in the world it should be understood the problem with your arguments and those who wish to empower a government while dis-empowering the very people who make that government.
Had People, all along, made the arguments I and others are making now, then when it came time to develop nuclear arms, the just and honest politicians and military men would have declined because they would understand that by doing so that this would mean that every person also had the right to keep and bear nuclear arms.
Clearly you've ignored the clear intent of my O.P.. It is not as if you are calling for nuclear disarmament, are you? You just think you have found a flaw in the arguments for freedom. Think again.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
But can you spell disingenuous?
Yeah there is denial in this thread that in the last 40 years of gun control there is more crime and violence than ever in this country that where the average law abiding citizen is punished where the criminals,and the cops, and the military is better armed.
Go on Anti-gun zealots pat themselves on the back for "saving anyone" no wait they didn't.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by beezzer
What you don't understand is that your dodging is as much of an answer anyone needs.
It's actually quite funny that you won't answer any of the questions I presented...from knife to nuke...you won't even try.
We all know why...there is some point where you are going to say "NO"...and then you look like a bit of a hypocrite.
So owning a gun is equal to owning a nuke?
Or are you just using this fallacious off topic nuke argument as a means to try to make gun lovers, as you call them, out to be nuclear holocaust types?
this thread is about Gun Control, not Nuke Control.
You are trying to sneakily turn this into something it's not, and twist everything into a totally new subject.
It's not gonna work, the distraction and deflection tactics are too shallow this time.
If you want to discuss Nuke Control please make a new thread about it.
I love proving people wrong when they say a civilian can't own tanks.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Well regulated is by Company, Division, and/or platoon.
Regulated is by drill and practice, in the Military sense.
Good grief you have no clue.
What gun control in teh past 40 years?
Do you think there are more or less guns in the hands of the public than there were 40 years ago???
t's insane that you think that people think guns are controlled in this country...James Holmes got an AR-15, a shotgun, 2 hand guns, and 6000 rounds of ammo in under a month...we do not have effective gun control in this country.
And look at that...having a more armed populace has not reduced gun crimes either...hmmmm.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Wow, so now you have resorted to "I'm more of a man" BS?
You must be running low on Liberal BS, you seem to be running on fumes.
And Mr. Holmes ordered controlled chemicals, using his college as a cover to get them, so by that same logic we need to go and start pursuing stronger controls on that. Nobody supervised what chemicals he ordered? Or noticed him taking stuff out? Considering what a college can order in the lines of dangerous chemicals that should bother more then the gun issue. Especially considering how smart this guy was supposed to be! Looking at the mess the cops had to deal with at his apartment you think guns are the bigger problem?
It's insane that you think that people think guns are controlled in this country...James Holmes got an AR-15, a shotgun, 2 hand guns, and 6000 rounds of ammo in under a month...we do not have effective gun control in this country.