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As a Denver/Aurora resident, I have a LOT to say about the shooting

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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:39 AM
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What I am wondering is how long will it take the MSM to label him as a conspiracy theorist. Go after guns and free speech; two birds with one stone. We just got back from visiting up there on the 10th and rode by the Best Buy I use to work at in Aurora. Very errie feeling because I was explaining where Columbine was to my gf as we left Aurora, heading to Littleton.




posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:13 AM
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Wow, that's alot to process, but thanks for more insite on this tragedy.
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:32 AM
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Colorado must be one hell of an odd place to live. I would suggest a concealed carry if possible. That will help alleviate some stressors pertaining to the feeling of not have the proper resources upon demand.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:47 AM
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you should post an image of your ticket. It would be interesting to see.. An to validate some credibility.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 06:38 AM
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I love this site. This thread is excellent, plus these two threads are simply fascinating.

Assuming there is some sort of conspiracy, I think that 10 years ago and prior this kind of "op" would slide on by without even the slightest suspicion that something conspiratorial was going on. Now, we are so much more connected and AWAKE that we see the puzzle pieces fitting together much more readily now.

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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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good thread, it seems now you're the information specialist in your area for ATS on this, keep your ear to the ground, and let us know anything else on this thread that seems quirky, unusual, or out of place in your area. S&F for you....



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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One thing that also bothers me about the shooter...he could wire up a complex explosive, but he couldn't clear a gun jam?

There are so so many things that just naturally don't make sense in this.

Im gonna have to sleep on it...

And the theater doors here are not covered curtains, are lit with glowing exit signs. If you walk out of one, even the smallest of light gets in. And they are designed to slam shut on their own as they are after all fire doors.

So if it was just him....wouldn't someone have noticed him rigging the door to prop it open? I mean those doors are right there next to seating...someone would have seen him do it right?

This whole incident has been a massive contradiction from the top down....good info and insight OP.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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This is a truly creepy tale.. I am glad you are here to tell it to us. You should post a pic of your tickets.. that would be unreal.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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The only conspiracy I see is the idea that there is anyone capable of :going after yer guns."

Seriously -- who are they going to send? The US has about 500,000 cops. It would take all of them, working FT, 25 years to go door-to-door, a confiscatin'.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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Movie theaters typically do not have "audible alarms" on rear emergency exit doors however some places could but a warning would be posted. Rear exits are commonly utilized for exiting the theater too.
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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That's it folks.......

Judge SEALS case:

www.thedaily.com...



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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First Passed Karma, let me extend my deepest sympathy to your area. I feel really bad, been down lately about this senseless tragedy and I am in the Midwest.

Glad you did not go to the theater that night and you and your family are okay.

His eyes - I've recently finished three books, and yes they are Christian books (I've been a non Christian for 50 of my 59 years but am now Christian again). The three books are: Politics, Prophecy & The Supernatural and The Cosmic Chess Match both by L.A. Marzulli and a even more interesting read, The Black Awakening by Russ Dizdar.

To tie these threads together and give everyone a wider perspective we really need to have one thread and call it "The Denver / Aurora Theater Shooting of July

www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=14506581#pid14506581

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The one I responded to and a picture of both men are here (look at the eyes carefully) www.abovetopsecret.com...

It might make it a lot easier to have just one or fewer than the 100 different threads that are going to branch out from this horrible tragedy.

Something is not right with our society and the world at large right now. Something particularly strange about Colorado.................JonBenet Ramsey was also a blood sacrifice and yes I do believe Satan is alive, thriving and beginning to raise hell (pun intended).

People don't want to make the connection between what we can and cannot see. We breathe air yet we don't see it. We don't see atoms, other dimensions, heck we don't even our senses as human beings such as seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling or feeling aren't as sharp as other creatures we share this planet with.

We do not, for the most part acknowledge when some of us are intuitive or sense things.

For the longest time, I never believed in God much less Satan. But, after watching Madonna's half time Super Bowl Ritual (I have studied the occult, no I would never harm a child, baby, animal or anyone).

If you watch our "Hollywood entertainment" it has become very overtly sexual, very overtly violent/blood thirsty and just, in my own humble opinion really really nasty to the point of what in the heck are we allowing our children to be exposed too?

Now the news is saying this court case will be sealed.

This case is so well known the defense is going to say Mr. Holmes is never going to get a "fair trial".

Now, normally I am against war, abortion and the Death Penalty. Why? Because in all three cases, many times, it is the innocent that die.

In this case, they have the correct man, they know he took many lives and forever traumatized many others. I still feel, myself quite down and I'm almost half way across the country.

Again, they have the right man, they know they do. They have cameras as the opening resident stated, yet they are now showing it.

For the sake of sanity, James Holmes did it, they know it, they have footage of it, what are TPTB hiding? Now this being a conspiracy site: If you read the three books and go to both Shatterthedark dot net and LA Marzullit's sites you will see that the soul corruption has infiltrated all the way to the top, ie: our police, our judges, lawyers, politicians, military, celebrities, etc.

Our politicians (Clinton) openly lied about committing adultery, Bohemian Grove, Politicians (Republican) trying to quietly cheat all the baby boomers out of their Social Security they've been paying into for 30-40 years (stealing), and then there is the entertainment - our movies, glamorize sex and violence, even to the point of now our young cannot get away from being exposed.

We have become a Satanic Country and allowed Satan a good strong hold into our lives, many of us unknowingly.

This will be my last comment about this senseless tragedy. Thank you to the OP for giving us some inside information as you live near Aurora.

In my opinion, I think many people are "sleepers", unknowingly they have allowed other dimensional entities to possess them....look carefully into the eyes of these "wigged out killers". They do not look like human eyes. The eyes are the windows to the soul.

Mentally crazy, on drugs - yes some people are mentally abnormal. Drugs can (again IMHO) open oneself up to allowing evil entities to invade the user as does alcohol and playing around with channeling and all the other "New Age/Spiritual" junk we now look upon as acceptable.

I saw a picture of Lady Gaga going out to dinner wearing not much - she should have been cited for public indecency as should many of our "idols".

This sad sad incident will escalate for we have allowed some gates to hell to be opened and they are being opened wider each day.

This video explains The Black Awakening.




Uploaded by PoeticaUK on Mar 29, 2011

Russ Dizdar,a Christian, has "delivered" hundreds of people from demonic possession. Russ maintains it is just one aspect of the complete ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ. He feels that it is essential that all Christians should be fully trained in the Body Of Christ thus enabling them to be equipped for this "Black Awakening" - which is almost upon God's people.
Over the past thirty years he has become an expert on Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) or Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), Satanic Ritual Abuse, and MKUltra type mind control (sometimes called Trauma Based Mind Control)
Due to his experience working with the victims and perpetrators of "Cult Crime" he has discovered a "hidden underground" that most people could never imagine exists.These "Chosen Ones" are planning for something they term "The Black Awakening".
Russ and his team at shatterthedarkness.net... (his ministry website), are seeking to do whatever they can to heal those involved. They attempt to rescue victims, expose and bring to justice the perpetrators of these crimes. Ultimately through prayer and deliverance his team educate victims about the POWER, AUTHORITY and ABSOLUTE LOVE of the KING of all kings, Jesus Christ.

www.shatterthedarkness.net...


This video explains the splitting personalities creating sub personalities and possibly now our video games, some of our movies and "entertainment" now are doing this, creating Satanic Soldiers.

Now many will respond this is ridiculous, yes a year ago I would have laughed this very response off but when you start having babies commonly molested sexually, people eating other people alive and mass shooting, it's getting obvious that something is going on.

Again, go to the one ATS link (I don't want either photo on my PC) and look at James Holmes, Longaberger, Manson and any of the really crazy mass killers - simply look into their eyes. They do not look human.

Lady Gaga and Madonna at times also do not look human (their eyes) at times.

I honestly think we are vessels and some of us have allowed other dimensional entities (demons) to enter us.

Not everyone is in control of their own vehicle (body).

Again I cannot stress enough, look into the eyes, pay attention to how you feel around some people.

This last article was very interesting:


Here are some questions.

1. What will we find out about James Holmes motivation for the killing spree?

2. Was he connected to any radical groups?

3. Did he leave a suicide note at his apartment?

4. Did he have a history of mental illness?

5. Why was his mother so sure that the police got the “right” person?

6. Did he leave a diary or any other “paper trail?”

7. Will our lawmakers use this massacre to enforce gun control?

8. Was Holmes involved in the occult?

9. Is there surveillance video showing a handler?

Source: lamarzulli.wordpress.com...

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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:00 AM
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One thing that also bothers me about the shooter...he could wire up a complex explosive, but he couldn't clear a gun jam?


If he didn't shoot the firearm and have a previous jam then it might be something he had not encountered or expected. In that moment he may have just decided to change weapons or his actions.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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Right, still my point was that wiring a complex expolsive was far more technical in nature. Clearing a jam would have taken about the same amount of time as swapping weapons.

Perhaps if he'd actually gotten to that gun club he would have figured that part out, still Im on the fence about the whole thing.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:19 AM
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The second thing that popped into my mind was how NOBODY saw anything suspicious. Aurora is extremely locked down. You can't go anywhere without seeing armed (security guards? cops?) And plenty of mall cops. The Aurora mall and that theater (which is next to the mall) have a steady loop of security. And they stop you for pretty much anything. I've been questioned WITH MY KIDS because we were sitting in my car, waiting for my mom during the day. At night they step the security up even more. It's pretty ridiculous. I've always been annoyed with it. So how did this guy go unnoticed?

 


also wanted to add as a former resident there....

the reason there are so many "cops" and security guards, etc, is because the area surrounding the mall is ghetto and filled w/ gangs and violence. there are shootings in aurora all the time due to the gang issues....

i know people want to throw in some conspiracy to the shooting and its connection w/ aurora and all of that, but ive lived there and know the area.....i wouldnt drive around by myself at night there - ever - and you couldnt pay me to go shopping in that mall...

aurora gov has been battling the gang issue. when i heard about the shooting in the middle of the night....i thought for sure it was gang related...

GANG REDUCTION PROJECT

Forbes- americas safest cities

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You have got to be really kidding about Aurora Colorado as one of the safest cities… there are at least one murder each week and it is rampant with drugs and gangs… where do you get your information?

karlrado 6 months ago

I agree with misterg. I used to live in Aurora and “safe” is not a word I would use to describe it. The Denver news has a story about something bad happening in Aurora nearly every day.



i could sit and spend my time googling articles for people to read on how aruora around that area is not safe (but if anyone cares, they can find all the info out there themselves)....its min from colfax ave (yeah thats a safe area - not)....right on the main highway going thru colorado....(although there are some nice/safe areas in aurora)...they are futher away from the mall area....

point is, i see no way why anyone would question why there is so much "brass" running around, along w/ mass amounts of $$ thrown into the PD dept.....all one needs is to watch the evening news and hear of the shootings nearly every week in that area.....and the bank robberies.....

IMO, other than a few areas EAST of the mall and south towards Parker and Southlands...aurora is a cesspool of crime: drugs, gangs and violence.
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2008 gang report - aurora - not much as improved. thus why i moved out of the area 3 years ago....
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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My husband and son go to the movies every Saturday.

The exit doors can only be opened from the inside.

The exit doors are heavy, heavy, heavy steel with a push bar.

When one opens it, a loud alarm sounds.

The trial will now be "sealed"............I can see wanting to uphold the Amendment to a speedy and fair trial, but they know they have the right person - and he should in this case (and I am against murder, violence, war, etc) but in this case, this young man needs to be put asleep like a mad dog would be.

Sealing the trial just seems like there is more going on that TPTB don't want us to know about.

We have several lawyers in the family and they say this is to give Holmes a "fair trial" but come on, we have enough cameras in parking lots, in theaters, etc, they know they have the right person - be done with it and again, I wonder how high up this goes?

Stuff usually kept "sealed" from the public means something happened insiders don't want the public to know about.

If they have the right person, get rid of him - yes in a non painful, humane way, send him and whatever demon(s) possess him back to hell where they belong.

BTW: For those who have not studied the occult:

And think now about we just got done with the "elite" dancing around a 40 foot owl named Moloch (Sacrificial Demon God) in the Bohemian Groves:


3. Summer Solstice - 13 weeks - When the sun reaches its northernmost point in its journey across the sky

a. June 21 - 22 - Summer Solstice
b. June 21 - Litha is one of the Illuminati's Human Sacrifice Nights
c. July 4, America's Independence Day, is 13 days after Day of Litha and 66 days from April 30
d. July 19 - 13 days before Lughnasa
e. July 31 - August 1 - Lughnasa, Great Sabbat Festival. August - One of the Illuminati's Human Sacrifice Nights Source: www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


Again, simply read "The Black Awakening" by Russ Dizdar and L.A. Marzulli's "Politics, Prophecy & The Supernatural"..............Google them they have videos if you don't want to read the book.

Something just seems not quite right with sealing the trial. I can see sealing off everything from the public during the trial, but sealing the trial period - another conspiracy and I wonder how high up this goes and who Holmes's handler was or what really now went on?



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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Well, it appears one article says the Judge sealed the case and another media outlet claims it will be televised from inside the court room.

We will have to wait and see but my bet is IF the inside courtroom is televised then no doubt Holmes will be silent and stoney faced - perhaps under more drugs?



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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Has anyone noticed that Aurora Colorado is the closest residential area to the weird Denver Airport?

I'm not drawing any conclusions but I just found the whole thing weird. First Columbine, Aurora (Red Dawn), and the murals at the Denver airport, all within 50 km or so.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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Fascinating post. Thank you.

I was a Prosecutor/Defense atty for about 25 years. These ppl just defy explanation and rampant surveillance really does nothing except MAYBE provide evidence after the fact. A "police-like state" only harms the innocent.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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Does the 'seal' mean that no info will be made public before the trial. Won't it become known during the trial?





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