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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by heycitizen
There have been plenty of ATSers in the multiple threads with first-hand accounts of victims, some even lost people they personally know.
They are real victims.
CS (mustard) gas
The chemical reacts with moisture on the skin and in the eyes, causing a burning sensation and the immediate forceful and uncontrollable shutting of the eyes. Effects usually include tears streaming from the eyes, profuse coughing, exceptional nasal discharge that is full of mucus, burning in the eyes, eyelids, nose and throat areas, disorientation, dizziness and restricted breathing. It will also burn the skin where sweaty and or sunburned. In highly concentrated doses it can also induce severe coughing and vomiting. Almost all of the immediate effects wear off within an hour (such as exceptional nasal discharge and profuse coughing), although the feeling of burning and highly irritated skin may persist for hours. Affected clothing will need to be washed several times or thrown away.
Because people exposed to mustard gas rarely suffer immediate symptoms, and mustard-contaminated areas may appear completely normal, victims can unknowingly receive high dosages. Within 24 hours of exposure to mustard agent, victims experience intense itching and skin irritation, which gradually turns into large blisters filled with yellow fluid wherever the mustard agent contacted the skin.
The use of poison gases, including mustard gas, during warfare is known as chemical warfare, and this kind of warfare was prohibited by the Geneva Protocol of 1925, and also by the later Chemical Weapons Convention of 1993. The latter agreement also prohibits the development, production, stockpiling, and sale of such weapons.
Originally posted by L00kingGlass
Not sure if anyone mentioned this previously, but the shooter asked for "the Navy" after he was apprehended. I thought that was very interesting.
I too, have seen "friend of a friend" remarks, but no first hand experiences...
Originally posted by heycitizen
I've only come across "friend of a friend" situations. If you have any links to first-hand people I'd like to look at them.
The next youngest victim, Alexander J. “AJ” Boik, 18, who graduated from Aurora’s Gateway High School, was being remembered Saturday as a talented and kind man who enjoyed baseball, making pottery and music.
In a statement, his family said: "AJ Boik was a wonderful, handsome and loving 18-year-old young man with a warm and loving heart.”
Boik's plans included attending Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design in the fall, according to a longer Denver Post article. His family said his dream was to become an art teacher and open his own studio.
Originally posted by heycitizen
reply to post by getreadyalready
Should be easy to find pre-existing twitter, facebook, local news etc. for anyone who's existed for the past few years. Suspicions will arise if a majority of these people have Facebook accounts etc that opened recently and have phony looking activity on them.
I am finding local and national news footage of grieving people who do not look like professional actors. I'm leaning now toward a staged tragedy with a combination of actors, patsies, and real innocent victims, which really sucks. Wish it were a 100% phony event instead.
The eye witness videos are too blatantly scripted and acted though, so there is still much more to this than meets the eye.
Originally posted by heycitizen
reply to post by flyswatter
I think the videos speak for themselves:
Chris Ramos is the 9/11 "Harley Guy" of Aurora.
"Corbin Dates" is an actor, and he also goes by Corbin Kent and Corbin Dayton. He's the only one talking about the shooter taking phone calls and walking around. He claims to have testified in court. I wonder which name he actually used in the court room. Also, he testified?! Was there a trial already? Wowzer.
The Seeger girl has got to be the most camera-ready and composed super hero geek I've ever seen, not to mention having just narrowly escaped death.
This is not the composure of normal people who just almost died in a massacre.
People who are exposed to gas attacks are disrobed and decontaminated, at the very least, and usually receive medical evaluations. They don't hang out in contaminated clothing for 48 hours doing television interviews.
There is one video of a couple with a newborn infant here: abcnews.go.com... So, they brought a four month old to a midnight action movie, were exposed to noxious gas, were almost shot, the mother claims to actually have shrapnel in her leg (!), and are hanging around in their gas-infested clothes doing tv spots all day? Any fellow parent here knows that isn't believable.
I'm not saying that real people aren't dead, though I was feeling that way in the beginning. Though I am saying that these eye witnesses are phony.
edit on 24-7-2012 by heycitizen because: typo
Originally posted by switching yard
I don't buy the official story of what happened. When SWAT guys strap on all their protective Kevlar gear, they are usually relying on buddies to help with that. One guy putting on his own protective gear would take more time and effort. We're supposed to believe this one guy out by his car in the parking lot strapped all this protective gear on, got his gas mask on, weaponed up, and there was no cop or security noticing the guy and alerting cops? Either the dude was real lucky to not be seen or there was a different type of operation going down.
See I think the cell phone call was the "go" signal. That meant that two vehicles were now in place outside the exit door: the white Holmes car (driven by an op, not Holmes) and a black ops van. An op (not Holmes) inside the theater takes the "go" cell phone call, gets the exit door open and has a hi-tech way to quickly disable the locking latch on the door, he gets into a getaway van while the real shooter (not Holmes) exits the van and goes into the theater and does the mass shooting, then when he comes back out, the real Holmes --- dressed and geared up exactly like the real shooter, is planted out there by the white car and is programmed to zombify and not resist arrest. His mind control code is "I am the Joker." The van speeds away just before back-up cops surround the thater. Back-up sees Holmes standing there in his gear and arrest him. Before the black ops fled the scene, they set the real shooter's gas mask and weapons inside the Holmes white car to make it look like Holmes was gearing down when back-up drover up.