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Nobody has the right to take another Human Life not even in Self Defense

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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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reply to post by diamondoftheworld
 


Yes violence between human beings was necessary for survival for most of human history. though that is slowly changing many people kill and are killed on a daily basis. There is still war too which is the same thing on a larger scale. Not that its a good thing its just the way things are.




posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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g,day mate. ok fair enough. if you can stick to this well done. but please pause a moment as i would like you to remember a small fact. millions of canadians, americans, new zealanders, australians and british men thought otherwise and hundreds of thousands of them have suffered and died. so, as a resullt of their different belief you are now able to think, feel and enact this theory of yours under the umbrella of their efforts. be careful, be very careful as suicide is a really big nono. i really hope that you never have to put your theory to the ultimate test as your concept of reality is a worry. why, because people all over the world are speaking/believing this govt. dribble, whilst their govt,s are preparing for war.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by diamondoftheworld
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In other words, your idea here can be dismissed.
Yes.And this is The silence before the end.


You are being nonsensical. I suspect it's quite on purpose and for your own entertainment. I suggest that we all leave this thread because this person is simply stringing us all along to get his jollies.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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I didn't read something about it....... I can feel it,.the tuth.


Hi diamondoftheworld,
I think your missing a bit of the...um.. er.... *Hands u a "r"

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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by diamondoftheworld

Originally posted by Doalrite
If someone trys to harm me or my kids if killing them would protect us I would in an instant and never EVER feel bad about it
Tell that to the kids from Afghanistan and Iraq and...so on...


What has that have to do with this topic? I fully believe we need to stop war. There should never be war with the technology we have. We shouldn't have to OCCUPY anything. If they attack us we send a missle up their rear end.

This thread is weak



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:01 PM
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Self defense and defense of others is always allowed, though not all choose it. However, it is the first principle of growing up and serving children is Serving and Protecting.

Even Ghandi dealt with this and Christ Yeshua instructed his apostles to take a sword with them on their travels.

In the Cosmos, keeping high frequency and not engaging in harm is very important, however, after every other method has been employed, one has to choose between dying and going home, or defending life and family and freedom. Both choices are equal. But defending your family or children is responsible.

There are many who speak of cosmic laws, there are none. There are some physics laws (most we don't know about) that pertain to each realm, they're not all the same, (cause and affect, jump off a cliff and you will fall), and there are others, frequency, things change as you draw lower to you, or higher. But, its not a LAW written in stone, and unyeilding to intercession. Though please don't jump off cliff's because once in a great long while someone experiences a miracle.

There are Virtues on higher levels pertaining to not harming, being a gift to others.

Mostly dark side likes to try and write up their lists of rules and then tries to convince others that they should play this mind game with them, and then it can take a while for those suscetible to this kind of programming and bullying to free their minds again.

So we all need to free our minds, cleanse our inner soul and spirit like we take care of the outer, and seek within.
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by diamondoftheworld
reply to post by CirqueDeTruth
 



Even in heaven, wars are fought.
Not wars but chases.



Semantics.

There are galaxies upon galaxies, universes upon universes - and you should claim self - defense as your big hoopla for Earth? Really? One of the few rights amidst this amusement park of horrors that is deemed collectively as necessary? You would take a persons right to fight for life away?

I'll leave you with Charles Lamb's rhyme. Seeing as this is where you are in your estimations of humanity,

You pray that your "trespasses may be forgiven,
As you forgive those that are done unto you."
Before this you say to the God that's in heaven,
Consider the words which you speak - Are they true?



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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I don't know about all that, but I do know that being bloodthirsty is a sin and there sure are a lot of folks sinning up in this thread.

Kill Kill Kill Oh God you wanna kill somebody.

Sick freaks.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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You, or the fairy tale god you believe in or are preaching for really need lessons in the real world.

It’s also obvious OP that you don’t have kids or a life partner……

I will tell you now that the biggest emotion and adrenalin force that cannot be controlled is the one that will MAKE YOU KILL someone that is threatening the life of one of your kids or your partner.

I can tell you….. If I thought you were a threat to my family or me, I would have no hesitation in reaching down your neck (we aren’t allowed guns here) and ripping out your still beating heart & nothing, including a ‘god’ would be able to stop me.

I would kill for my family and I would also die to protect them, this is human nature and a trait found in most animals.

Mickierocksman



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by diamondoftheworld
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
 



You don't take the sins of another onto yourself,

Thou shalt not kill.


en.wikipedia.org...

Actually you do take them onto yourself.


The actual translation is you shall not murder in hebrew, not kill.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by xXxinfidelxXx
reply to post by diamondoftheworld
 


It seems, however, that you are an awe-inspiring, unbelievable LACK of information.


Why can't anyone see that this person is either off his/her medication, or needs some very badly? You are not chatting with a fully functional person here. And I don't mean that as an insult. This is for real.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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@CirqueDeTruth :

There are absolutely ZERO wars ever fought above the very low level duality zones. NONE. You cannot leave this realm if you can harm. That is not to say, you cannot leave this realm if you defend yourself or another. Harm means, obeying a king or religious leader, not questioning why they want to fight, not questioning what you are taught, a zombi, reducing your consciousness, not asking your Source and/or SOUL within and seeking within and weighing everything again LOVE, KINDESS, EQUALITY, GENTLENESS, FORGIVENESS, ETC ETC ETC.

Beyond these levels there is only LOVE, KINDNESS, EQUALITY, HUMILITY, FORGIVENESS. THERE ARE NO KINGS, THRONES, LORDS OR MASTERS.

That is the distortion and black squares in the religions. They do put the truth but you really to search.

They run the world like this, but really cheat on the light squares.





Light as a Feather, Do Not Harm.

Higher Ups and Family, God/Goodness only treats all with Love, Kindness and Patience.

We're in a quarantined galaxy, its a playpen. We have to stop harming, enslaving others, allowing inequality or banks even (you can't force a slave to only be permitted to have land and a home, if they work for you. everyone has that right, just like a beaver!). No one should be standing under you. The Venus Project type idea, not exact, but type of idea, like the upgraded higher tech version of how natives have always lived, is the only truly legal system in the cosmos.
Why? Because there are virtues similar to basic common law, based on THOU SHALT NOT HARM.

It is major harm to claim ownership of a planet and its resources and force people to work for your corrupt corporations in order to have a home.

Get it!

Its called slavery.

Slavery is MAJOR HARM. LIKE MURDER, RAPE.

Family above not only are LOVE, KINDNESS, GENTLENESS, PEACE, FORGIVENESS, HUMBLE OF HEART, GOOD, SENSITIVE, BUT ITS PROGRESSION, SO YOU MUST TURN THE DIAL WAY UP AND BIGGER ON ALL THOSE IDEAS PAST THE HIGHEST VERSIONS WE CAN EVER IMAGINE.

Saturn/Santa/Satan is the one who wars. And is coded in the bible.

Christ told them who their father was. Master of Disguise. Who's your daddy? Slap! Slap! Slap! Does he slap you silly? Mine doesn't.

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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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But how does this lessen their need for interaction? You would suggest that this person is insane, thus not to be engaged.

Right? What is it your post is implying or trying to elucidate here? That we should all ostracize the one that don't fit in with your paradigm? (Atheism) Leave him/her floundering in the wind? Hop him/her up on tons of poisonous medication? Anti-depressants and anti-psychotics? Suggest incarceration at a mental ward? What is it you are suggesting of the OP?

Not joking here. Seriously? These boards are meant for the loners, the strange, and the misfits...but here you come along and say, nope - crazy. Disregard. Because I said so.

Nice conspiracy theory in and of itself....huh?

In the words of Spock...."Fascinating".



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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Now, this is not the same thing as saying that a higher up that comes in would not serve and protect an innocent child or someone with faith, in this realm if they came in. But it would be the last resort going if so. and only if they were on this level of frequency, on assignment.

Because the higher frequency never fights if it shows. It merely has to show up. Can you stand in its presence and frequency? That is all.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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So you are saying that if you and your daughter are in a McDonalds while I'm there, a gunman comes in and starts shooting. You'd prefer that I let hime shoot your daughter?



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by diamondoftheworld

Originally posted by CesarO
And you are basing this way of looking at the universe and life overall based on something you read?
I didn't read something about it....... I can feel it,.the tuth.

Your truth, perhaps. I truly hope you yourself are not put in that position one day.....and I truly hope that your wife, or one of your children doesn't have to die because Daddy is too good to defend their lives.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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So you say.

All I can honestly relay to you, as I am given, is that you don't understand the half of it. The upper realms (dimensions/vibrations) are not perceivable to you, only your wants and desires in relation to it. You only get one rung on the latter at a time, Braveheart. Your altruistic, utopian ideals. What you seek is oneness with the source, in which, you cease to be you and are absorbed into that which is all. I know better. I value my soul, individuality, and separateness apart from the source. It was a gift given after all, as though I would forget...but perhaps you have.

If it can't work in your reality, why would you impose an imperfect idea upon another reality?

I'll quote Shakespeare....

An evil soul producing holy witness,
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 10:33 PM
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I'm sorry OP but you are an ignorant prick.

Have you EVER had your life threatened before?
A month ago my neighbor was trying to get into my house with an axe.
He was yelling "I'll #ing kill you you Mother #ers!
Me and my brother were waiting inside with two break open 12 gauge shotguns loaded with the safety off.

Now if he would've gotten inside our house, and I'll post this because i don't care what anyone on ATS says,
We would've blown his head off, and our landlord would've had to hire a contractor to clean up his brain soup!

I'll be damned if someone without prevocation comes in my house and kills me.
At that point nobody deserves to live who is trying to kill me in my home.


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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by xXxinfidelxXx
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If survival of the fittest were still the way of humanity, people like him would've died off a long time ago.


Whenever prosecution happens, the pacifists seems to be the first ones to go.... If people do not defend or fight back, evil people will just do whatever....



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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That is what is wrong with you people today-you forgot about animal instincts. You think we are all so special. If a cat comes on my property my cat will brutally hurt it. Why? Because that is nature-something you and I are. Try to take one of my family members life-I wouldn't hesitate is all I have to say. No matter what the charges would be.



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