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Why Obama Does Not Have A Birth Certificate

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 10:35 PM
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Yeah; Next time a cop asks me a question, hell I should just say in a condescending tone, "I've given you all YOU need to know to do your job.." Let's see how that works out..Funny how his wife also had MS, yet doesn't show any kind of evidence of it now...So much for it being incurable....I would know; I have an aunt that has MS. I've seen the symptoms and what it does to you.




posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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This case has always been simple for me when i think logically. What would i do if i were president, a citizen and accused otherwised. The fiirst thing i would do is publicly go out and shoot down the speculation witn my personal knowledge of where i was born and where is was from. Then i would produce evidence physically on film in front of witnesses. Anyways, ive seen little to no effort from him to put the rumors to rest, so i definitely conclude that hes hiding something. Most likely his citizenship.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 01:31 AM
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Here is how I look at it: He registers on the New Jersey ballot where he doesn't have to provide a BC, he has a Connecticut SSN that can not be requested by Connecticut state law except for tax and medical reasons, and takes nearly 3 years to release a copy that is being outed by law officials as a forgery.

Yeah, the dude is definitely hiding something.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 02:34 AM
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Who exactly is this expert? Because, as I recall, the experts clearly demonstrated that this adobe copy of his birth certificate is indeed a recently photoshopped forgery.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by kyviecaldges

Originally posted by muse7
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It was put up on the Website to debunk the myth that he didn't have one, doubters started saying it was fake then an adobe certified expert said it was legit.

Do you want him to mail his birth certificate to your house so you can verify it?


Just answer me this one question then...

If a court of law will not accept it as valid evidence, then how is it possible to prove that it is valid?


What court of law is that?



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 08:52 AM
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I understand this one of those sovereign citizen threads but your facts are wrong.

There were birth certificates before 1913.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by Poopooplatter
 


Here is how I look at it: He registers on the New Jersey ballot where he doesn't have to provide a BC, he has a Connecticut SSN that can not be requested by Connecticut state law except for tax and medical reasons, and takes nearly 3 years to release a copy that is being outed by law officials as a forgery.

Yeah, the dude is definitely hiding something.


He is naturally hiding something, but isn't it odd how poor a job
he is making of hiding whatever he is hiding?
It is almost as if everything about obama, his person and his policies, was designed
to overtly divide and court controversy.

The roman world empire is almost complete, thanks in large part to the efforts of the
federal reserve (buying up the worlds hard assets for their worthless pieces of paper),
and the frontmen/muscle U.S. invaders (and their worldwide infiltrations) of the last century.

Was America designed to be collapsed from within following their part in the script
coming to an end? I believe 9/11 was a symbol for the beginning of this endgame
that is the destruction of the dollar, and America itself - their roles having been
successfully fulfilled.

Is this the reason behind the rather sloppy and obvious incriminations of the U.S.
government (and zionists/jews) in so many paradigm shifting cases such as JFK, 9/11,
Oklahoma etc. etc.

All it will take are timely releases on the mainstream media. The people will connect the
dots, obama will be seen as he was 'designed' to be seen, and all hell will break loose.
Combine this turmoil with the collapse of the dollar, and destruction from within is guaranteed.
All as planned. The Empire power seats move to the East, and America (and the West)
will be re-designed and rebuilt in time.

I believe you are spot on in your OP. What fools we are to loose our way so easily.
This also means that NO past president can have had a 'valid' birth certificate, doesn't it?



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by muse7
He does have one

It was put up on the WhiteHouse website, verified by adobe-certified experts.

Verified legit 100% by an Adobe Certified Expert
edit on 7/21/2012 by muse7 because: (no reason given)


That is hilarious. You're using a classic propaganda technique here - saying the opposite of the truth and passing it off as the truth.

Adobe certified experts have confirmed the BC as a FAKE. I am an Adobe expert, while not certified (I don't know how or why I would need to be "certified") and I can tell you that I a scanned document does not have more than ONE part - the raster file. The fact that it has more than ONE layer makes it suspect at the very least.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Adobe certified experts have confirmed the BC as a FAKE.


Not one single "adobe expert" is a document expert or ever actually saw any birth certificate.


I am an Adobe expert, while not certified (I don't know how or why I would need to be "certified") and I can tell you that I a scanned document does not have more than ONE part - the raster file.


Then you are a moron because an expert in anything should at least know the difference between a car and a picture of a car, a document and a picture of a document.
What kind of expert are you that you cannot?


The fact that it has more than ONE layer makes it suspect at the very least.


There are no layers on the BC for you to call out. What exactly are you talking about? Are you claiming to be an expert and claiming to debunk a document from an image of that document?

Come on. Tell me you are not saying something so stupid.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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Great thread OP, I learned about most of your thread from Jordan Maxwell. Many on here may not like him and that's fine, I'm rather indifferent honestly but the fact remains that there is an intentional purpose behind your all capital letter references and non capital letter references.

Separate your mail into two piles:

piles addressed to [YOUR NAME] and piles addressed to [Your Name]...when I did this I noticed a trend over time that almost everything involving money was addressed to YOUR NAME and the pile for Your Name was significantly smaller.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 10:40 AM
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I wish the birthers would give it up. The man has done a bazillion impeachable offenses, why is he not impeached?



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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ALL of my bills - including even my television/cable bill is in ALL CAPS
Drivers liscense - all credit cards - ALL BANK STATEMENTS IN ALL CAPS.......ALL VA DOCUMENTS AND CORRESPONDENCE - All stock transactions and/or dividend statements - ALL CAPS.....
All medicare or hospital statements - in ALL CAPS.
In other words - everything that is of a financial nature or relates to my person regarding a government agency (STATE OR FED) etc., is in ALL CAPS

I can't recall if it (everything) was ALWAYS this way - but it sure is that way now.......
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Then apparently you do not have to pay any of that stuff because it is addressed to a slave. According to the OP, a name in all caps is a different name than one not in all caps. I am not an all caps person so according to the OP, anything with my name in all caps can be trashed. You do the same. Let us know how it works out. I will.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by habitforming
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Then apparently you do not have to pay any of that stuff because it is addressed to a slave. According to the OP, a name in all caps is a different name than one not in all caps. I am not an all caps person so according to the OP, anything with my name in all caps can be trashed. You do the same. Let us know how it works out. I will.


Are you being sarcastic or is that an example of sardonic humour on your part?

If you were to challenge judges on any of this - state or federal - they get EXTREMELY irritated and often hold the defendant in contempt of court and threaten imprisonment.....do your homework on this OK? see below where I do a little of it for you

BE MINDFUL OF THIS - If you are in a Court of Law they will ask if you will stand under the said charges (understand same thing) . You do not have to consent to this. Simply tell the judge that the person on the paper in all caps is not you but you would like to meet the person.

If you are brought into court with a paper such as this:
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
. VS
YOUR NAME

Neither one of these entities actually exist. Since you have a right to face your accuser ask the judge when the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA will be available to testify. The judge will point to the prosecutor and say that he represents the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. At this point ask the prosecutor if he has a claim against you and if he does he should enter his name under the plaintiff bar.
Eventually you will be asked to make a plea to allow the case to move to trial. Do not allow the judge to enter a not guilty plea for you. Just state that you do not consent to having the judge make a plea for you. Stand firm and state that you will not stand under the charges. If the judge would like to make a determination that you are not guilty then at that point ask that the case be dismissed.
If there is an injured party outside of the government that is charging you with a crime then you will have to move through the justice system.
The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or YOUR STATE has no right to make claims against you since both are non entities and do not exist.

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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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You can tell stories until you are blue in the face here. You are some random stranger posting things online with no proof.
What do you honestly think that is worth?
If it is so easy to look up, then you would be posting what I am expected to find.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by habitforming
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You can tell stories until you are blue in the face here. You are some random stranger posting things online with no proof.
What do you honestly think that is worth?If it is so easy to look up, then you would be posting what I am expected to find.


I don't understand you .........not only that - I find your comments extremely distasteful - I REPEAT - Are you being sarcastic or is that an example of sardonic humour on your part?

In any case - here is more info for you on the subject:

You are merely a Strawman - Why Is Your Name In All Capital Letters? I Only Use Caps For The The First Letter Of My Name!
Do you Ever Write YOUR NAME In All Capital Letters
Why does everything associated with the government spell your name in all capital letters? Is that proper English? Proper nouns such as your name should only be spelled with the first letter capitalized only. Do you ever spell your name with all capitals? No I did not think so. Do you know why?
Corporations are spelled with capital letters. That is right your name in all capital letters is a corporation set up for you by the UNITED STATES Corporation. Another truth is that your Federal Government is a Corporation.
Do you know why the government needed to set up a corporation spelled the same as your name but in Capitals? It is because no free born American would ever trade their time labor and energy for a currency with no value in and of itself. Corporations will accept a fraudulent currency printed by the Federal reserve which is also a corporation in the line of Milton Bradley which makes the monopoly game. Both corporations print money of equal value except the Federal Reserve Notes are backed by the US people.
If you notice on any of your Federal Reserve Notes (known as dollars to the uninformed) the paper is an instrument of debt only. No where on a Federal Reserve Note does it state that it could be used to accumulate wealth.

Source: Google
When you are born your parents register you with the government by receiving a birth certificate. In a few years your Corporation will receive a taxpayer ID# called a social security number. This is so you can be used as collateral for the government to acquire debt. That is right you and your labor time and energy is what backs up the National debt.
Do you have a choice? Of course you do, no one can hold you responsible for your government created strawman without your consent.
If you are in a Court of Law they will ask if you will stand under the said charges (understand same thing) . You do not have to consent to this. Simply tell the judge that the person on the paper in all caps is not you but you would like to meet the person.

Please SEE POST ABOVE FOR MORE OF WHAT TO DO IN A COURT OF LAW in the presence of a corrupt Zionist Judge..........
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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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SWEET. Another Obama is a fraud! No he's not! Pissing contest thread.

The initial post had some interesting information, but turned to poo when slaves started getting involved. If he was born in the US within the last 30 years, he will have a birth cert...plain and simple. Unless I'm missing something? I should go see if my parents have birth certificates now...who are these people I've been living with?!



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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I personally don't believe any of the (propaganda) about President Obama; where he was born; and his birth certificate.

I believe he was born in the United States. It is an election year and people are promoting propaganda to cast a lot of doubt in voters minds.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Vitruvian


I don't understand you .........not only that - I find your comments extremely distasteful - I REPEAT - Are you being sarcastic or is that an example of sardonic humour on your part?


I do not know how to be any more clear to you.
Until you can back up what you are saying, I really do not care to read any more of it.



posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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I wonder if the reason he doesn't have a valid birth certificate, the social security number of a dead man in CT, and won't release his draft registration is because he was created. IVF was around in the 70's and it is possible that he was genetically engineered to be what he is. His father may be composite DNA of several men.
His mother's parents were deep into communism/socialism, that is clear and proven. They were friends with many powerful people. The egg may not even have come from his mother, he looks not a thing like his "white" relatives.
Punahoe where he went to school is an extremely elite and uber expensive private school. I lived in HI for 4 years and 99% of the people on the island could NOT afford to send their children there, scholarships? - you've got to be kidding - someone funded a scholarship specifically for him.
Why is he hiding all his school records?
He is not who he says he is, his paternity is totally in question. I bet if someone could get a hair from him and his "brother" they would not be a genetic match as brothers. I even wonder about his sister since she looks nothing like him at all.
TPTB seemed to have genetically created a person to do their bidding, raised him early in a 3rd world country to show him poverty and then send him into the world of 1%er's to give him a pre-pubertal and infantile feeling of injustice; funded an elite and overly expensive education only available to the top 1%; forged and faked classes attended; groomed him to be a blank slate and hid what they had done to create him. Bill Ayers, then wrote his autobiography to promote him.
This idea of a creation of TPTB comes from when he told the postman that he "would" be president.
I think he was also groomed to be a one term president to do as much damage as possible. Note he said he "wouldn't mind being a one term president."
The problem for TPTB is, when they destroy the world, and cull the population, they will have to do all the work themselves. If they are doing this then I truly hope everyone but them gets accidentally destroyed but because of their precautions they survive, as they planned to happen and they have to toil the fields and become "slave" workers to live.






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