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Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Something is part of everything.
One simple question for you.
Do you love us?
reply to post by Akragon
He knew nothing of Jesus
Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by Akragon
He knew nothing of Jesus
Your point is taken but do you really believe he knew nothing of Yahweh if he taught much about love.
It seems contradictory.
Is your skin not important to you.
The meat is what holds the heart of the matter but where would you be and what would you learn without your shell/suit?
Go straight to the heart but embrace the shell
My head may be the hardest.
What does that have to do with Paul and in your opinion his teachings about love?
Yahwey is the true name for GOD now and then it has not much to do with time.
I believe it is more pleasing to him
Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Again 90/10 or so.
I agree with the heart of your post but it's always the kicker i can not accept.
On some level do you find any love in your heart for those a$$holes you speak of or do you simply find an alternative that is less hard to swallow?
I have a hard time conveying my thoughts so does the term throwing the baby out with the bathwater promote any thoughts or get you closer to the truth that you are loved by a few that share your destain for the unjust?edit on 23-7-2012 by deadeyedick because: (no reason given)edit on 23-7-2012 by deadeyedick because: (no reason given)
Did you really expect to get in ATS and speak to only your views of religion and not found a counter opinion. Think again. Lots of people seek truth and reality, not pretty little passion stories that ditch try to make myths and loss of truth.
Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Imo the ignorance would be to deny the shelter of love that a perfect man showed for us.
I love you because you are you and if stand alone then so be it.
Yes i am ignorant and hard headed myself.I can't articulate my words to fit my intentions as well as i should but i find that you and i are greater than our thoughts or our studies.So distract,stray or misguide as you will but we have been spared and so can you.Your delusion is great but it does not yet reside in the realm truth or love.If it ever does then who to the fallen.
If it is a whipping boy you desire then put the blame on me so you don't blame yourself.
I love you!!!
Originally posted by whyamIhere
A man proclaimed what is in his heart.
Seems like we are having a decent discussion.
See Opus, Nobody cares what you believe because it's personal.
It seems like you take it personal that he found what HE was looking for..
It's not about you. Besides, you sound like me in my younger days.
Except you did your homework. You are one articulate God Hater.
There is just one problem Bro.
You looked for the answer in all the wrong places.
The answer you seek is not in a book.
May I suggest you put down the books and start looking within.
edit on 23-7-2012 by whyamIhere because: (no reason given)
You can worship a god that kills, but then tells he loves everone.
Originally posted by whyamIhere
reply to post by MagnumOpus
I haven't been in a Church to worship in 35 years.
I did not find anything I was looking for at Church.
Quite the opposite...I found mostly hypocrisy.
Something very different brought me back to Jesus.
My prayers are working already...
I feel your are very close to a moment of clarity.
In the worst moment of your life...I promise you will hit your knees.
I did...
edit on 23-7-2012 by whyamIhere because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by MagnumOpus
You can worship a god that kills, but then tells he loves everone.
Perhaps you haven't realized the God of the OT is not the same as the one Jesus spoke of?
Look into it bro.... I posted a thread on this page as a matter of fact
However, you and I both know Jesus told his god is not the one of everyone else. But, he never got down to the details, and he should have gotten out the Book and Enoch and started explaining, so the vapid masses could follow. But he didn't and the crooked of religion have screwed up what god was Jesus subscribed.
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by MagnumOpus
You can worship a god that kills, but then tells he loves everone.
Perhaps you haven't realized the God of the OT is not the same as the one Jesus spoke of?
Look into it bro.... I posted a thread on this page as a matter of fact
I would agree with that opinion. However, the organized church and many here try to sell that Jesus god was Yahweh. So, when speaking of organized religion, their theme is Jesus and Yahweh are part of the Triune.
However, you and I both know Jesus told his god is not the one of everyone else. But, he never got down to the details, and he should have gotten out the Book and Enoch and started explaining, so the vapid masses could follow. But he didn't and the crooked of religion have screwed up what god was Jesus subscribed.
Originally posted by Akragon
Fortunatly the trinity is unbibical... and those that actually read the bible can clearly see that fact...
The only ones that believe in this Trinity are those that are part of some organized religion... even most bibical scholars know and confirm that the trinity was clearly added 300 some odd years later.
I wouldn't worry about the ramblings of Christian Fanatics my friend... Anyone who wants the truth just has to read what is written...
Either listen to the sheep, or listen to the shepard... sadly most listen to the sheep...
Mark 12:29
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
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5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."