Originally posted by whyamIhere
How will you get a belief into a truth and a reality is the question. If you can't answer that----you don't have truth as your guiding light, nor
peace as your untimate destination.
They make some wonderful medications for people that hate their lives.
Why are you so upset that we have searched and found some happiness in our lives?
As a fellow human it would seem like you should be happy he found his answer.
The OP is totally unmoved by your lack of faith.
Seriously, why would our belief in something bother you?
If this was a thread about people that believe in Santa.
I would smile, wish them well and quickly move on.
I really hope you find some happiness in life.
Would it be too much to ask you not to trash mine?
Belief in Santa is pretty well understood to be something fabricated to make kids happy and to keep them in line for presents from Santa, or a lump of
coal, if you are bad. I don't know a single adult that considers Santa to be real, they all know the story is staged, and they do it to please the
kids and brighten winter. I can't think of a case where belief in Santa killed anyone. Maybe a few due to electrocution and falling off houses due
to accidents and decoration misshaps.
I can't make the same observation for this belief in god, embellished Jesus theme, issue, because these various beliefs in god have killed millions.
There are these hell fire and damnation preachers threatning everyone is going to hell and you won't be saved unless you do as we tell you and fall
down on your knees before the altar.
Yes, religion beliefs kill. Lots of the Communist countries had to ban religion to keep it from interfering with the state and a number of
Missionaries were shot on the spot.
Most of the world expects and values truth and reality knowledge, but Christians work on sympathy stories to appeal to the heart to get followers.
Telling The truth in the story didn't matter, and the differing stories between religions get people killed, and even the existance of religion
messing with affairs of state get people killed.
Santa isn't a problem because it is unversally understood that it is a fantasy and not real, it is a stage act. A fantasy is fun, when it is
acknowledge to be one. Movie fantasy fiction stores are fun, but most know it is a fictional.
A good many of religion think every little word is truth on what god is, and there doesn't appears to be a standard for what is god about in the
differing religions, so there are continual battles, name calling, wars, meddling with affairs of state, and trying to control Governments.
Disgusting behavioirs to support these fantasy games.
Many of the Jewish religion have seen the light and changed into secular humanists, because they are sick and tired of all the problems with loss of
realities and truth due to religion induced hate.
When religion becomes on par with everyone knowing it is as faked up and staged as Santa, the world's problems will become less. Religion is too
often couched as a totally true documentary, when the case is more that of a fiction tossed on top of a few reality factors, still making it overall a
work of fiction.
Until then, this is a discussion list and differing opinions, difficult questions, and historical perspectives are allowed. All that along with
Critical Thinking, expectations of truth and reality in discussions being allowed and necessary for any debate.
If you want a tent revival, then you need a tent at a church and not one held on a public forum were various differing opinions are allowed and the
expecation is that to deny ignorance, not promote ignorance of religions.
If you want to take your belief into your home, there will be no discussions and you can belief god is the tooth fairy. But, on ATS, as best I can
tell, various views are allowed as long as folks stay civil.
And disagreements occur often, exceptionally so in religion based themes, but I would suggest that happens because of a loss of reality and too much
fantasy portraued as realith. When someone steps into portayal of various facets of religion as truth, often there is considerable discussions.
Did you really expect to get in ATS and speak to only your views of religion and not found a counter opinion. Think again. Lots of people seek
truth and reality, not pretty little passion stories that ditch try to make myths and loss of truth.
edit on 23-7-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Organized religion lacks truth and loves wars based upon the religion lacking truth.