Exoplanet Gliese 581g added now as the best potential habitable world, page 1


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Topic started on 21-7-2012 @ 02:59 AM by elevenaugust
New data suggest the confirmation of the exoplanet Gliese 581g and the best candidate so far of a potential habitable exoplanet. The nearby star Gliese 581 is well known for having four planets with the outermost planet, Gliese 581d, already suspected habitable. This will be the first time evidence for any two potential habitable exoplanets orbiting the same star. Gliese 581g will be included, together with Gliese 667Cc, Kepler-22b, HD85512, and Gliese 581d, in the Habitable Exoplanets Catalog of the PHL @ UPR Arecibo as the best five objects of interest for Earth-like exoplanets.




With a similarity index of 0.92, Gliese 581g is very similar to Earth. More than ever, there's now a real possibility that this exoplanet harbour life.
Moreover, there are now two exoplanet around Gliese ("g" and "d") that are in the habitable zone.

Steven S. Vogt of UC Santa Cruz, present a new analysis with an extended dataset from the HARPS instrument that shows more promising evidence for its existence. The new analysis strength their original assumption that all the planets around Gliese 581 are in circular and not elliptical orbits as currently believed.

Gliese 581g receives about the same light flux as Earth does from the Sun due to its closer orbital position around its host star.
It also probably has a radius not larger than 1.5 times Earth radii.
These factors combine to make Gliese 581g the most Earth-like planet known with an Earth Similarity Index, a measure of Earth-likeness from zero to one, of 0.92 and higher than the previously top candidate Gliese 667Cc, discovered last year.


Comparison of the estimated relative size and orbits of the five exoplanets around Gliese 581. The green shade represent the size of the habitable zone, or the orbital region where an Earth-size planet could have surface liquid water. Planets e, b, and c are too hot for liquid water and life but g and d are in the habitable zone. Planet g is specially in the right spot for Earth-like conditions while d is marginally within these limits, and colder. This is the first case of a stellar system with two potential habitable exoplanets orbiting the same star.

Source: Arxiv
The Habitable Exoplanets Catalog

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reply posted on 21-7-2012 @ 03:13 AM by RSF77
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Awesome, that's pretty good news especially considering the relatively short distance away it is and now that I read about it... it's only 2.5 times the mass of Earth. Is that doable you think for human life? Or would we only be able to survive in around a constant 1g?

Well... lets go there and find out I guess, better to spend resources on that than killing each other.
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reply posted on 21-7-2012 @ 03:21 AM by ZeussusZ
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we will only go there if there is something to kill there


reply posted on 21-7-2012 @ 03:24 AM by elevenaugust
Originally posted by RSF77
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post by elevenaugust



Awesome, that's pretty good news especially considering the relatively short distance away it is and now that I read about it... it's only 2.5 times the mass of Earth. Is that doable you think for human life? Or would we only be able to survive in around a constant 1g?

Well, that's a good question and I really don't know. My hope now is that they will use their new toys like "Project 1640" for example which is capable to directly see the exoplanets or another new technique using ESO's Very Large Telescope, for example, which is able to detect atmospheric changes between the planet's morning and evening, the amount of carbon monoxide present, etc...


reply posted on 21-7-2012 @ 03:32 AM by RSF77
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Good stuff, it would be nice to see a picture of an exoplanet in my lifetime.


reply posted on 21-7-2012 @ 03:34 AM by Wildmanimal
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Thats just silly. If you were really intent on searching for life within the frame
of our current mess, your would be able to simplify your searches by
dialing in exopheric metallic reflection.

This : www.dailyrecord.co.uk...

It is right there in plain English for all to see.

In other words, look for planets with lots of shiny litter floating around the edges of their atmosphere,

or within shall we say near planetary orbit. As known in our neck of the woods as LEO

Low Earth Orbit, blah, blah,blah.

Bingo!

S&F to your thread
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reply posted on 21-7-2012 @ 04:28 AM by mainidh
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They can't actually SEE the planet... It's kind of a LONG way away.

They can, however, detect the planet.

Shiny glitter? Not so much.


reply posted on 21-7-2012 @ 04:39 AM by mainidh
Also OP, if you want the images you embed to fit, use the [ ATS ] tags for external Images.

For instance,

[ ats = 627x700 ] http : //img442.imageshack.us/img442/1345/phlgl581small.jpg [/ ats ] resizes it to fit without having to use scroll bars.



So many details are often missed by people who don't use the scroll bars with some images, and if it's a HUUUGE image, people can still click to view it in a new tab, etc, in it's full resolution.

OT. It's amazing that given the size of Mars and it's distance from the sun, we're still looking there for signs of life, and finding evidence of water, and know it still has frozen ice caps. It also has a cycle ever 10 million years or so, where it's axis tilts giving it the needed sunlight to melt those caps. Life may be coming and going on mars over and over, and we're stuck in a dry spell.

Seeing Gliese 581g and knowing it's relative distance from it's star, really makes you wonder - a little too close, or a little far away, it's too hot or too cold.. that one is just right. How can there NOT be life on it. We will never know in our life time. It may be a savannah full of space cows, and tribes of 8 legged herdsmen...

They may be looking back at us, going "Ya know Barry, I rekon that panet, that one there, the one we detect there, No, THERE.. I rekon that just might have life on it.." only to be mocked by the religious controlling state, who put him in a castle and say "Don't you come out till your dead you miscreant! - all hail Xenu and may his DC10 never falter."

I wish I knew we'd know one day. At least the knowing that we'd know would be enough to know, so that I could stop pining to exist longer and longer until we find out how long that piece of string is...



reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 01:52 PM by TauCetixeta
Originally posted by mainidh
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post by Wildmanimal



They can't actually SEE the planet... It's kind of a LONG way away.

They can, however, detect the planet.

Shiny glitter? Not so much.



I found it on Stellarium. It's there!

Just follow the coordinates.
20 Light Years away.....Stellarium shows the star as HIP 74995

Going to the Libra Constellation puts you in the ballpark.
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