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Normal Christian Boy blows away Movie Theater in Aurora, Co.

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 10:52 PM
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I came in from cutting the grass to find the news saturated with a shooting in Aurora. Co., which is also the region for a big church shooting earlier in time.




www.christianpost.com...


James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Described as 'Normal' Christian Boy Amid Mental Health Investigation

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James Eagan Holmes has been described as a shy and well-mannered young man by a neighbor, who claims the Colorado shooting suspect was heavily involved in his local Presbyterian church.




Looks like the earlier Aurora, Co. shooting was in April




www.huffingtonpost.com...




It appears the church is failing teaching the Morals like: thou shalt not kill.

Makes one wonder if these things would turn out differently if these shooters chose to go play golf on the most holy day of the week.

Could it be all the double talk in religion makes some people a little crazy?


edit on 20-7-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Aurora Shootings




posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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All who hold a title, do not believe in the teachings of said title.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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I already posted this in the 106 page thread.
Same website too.


www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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It's not like his neighbors would come out and say something like "yeah, he walks around the halls all day, whispering to the little devils on his shoulders, repeating "red rum" over and over."

Lets be honest.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:11 PM
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I find it hard to belive that someone that was going for a php could have such bad comprehension skills for the bible is clearly against violence after Jesus gave his suit for our sins...
It just gives more credence to this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Dear MagnumOpus,

Shame on you for using this tragic event to attack Christianity. Do you really believe his pastor told him to go out dressed up as the Joker and shoot people? You are no better than the people who whine that someone took their six year old to a midnight showing, as if the parents even could guess that their child would be shot. Show some compassion for the families rather than trying to use this event to push your bigotry and your agenda.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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I think he probably just lost it because of all the constant harping of atheists....on and on and on. You know the atheists that have no life so they spend their time studying other people's religion just so they can attempt to disprove it and drag as many people as possible over to the dark side. Why would you even visit christianpost.com if you hate christianity? Where do you find the time? Next thing you know you'll be door knocking....oh wait, you have the internet to try to force your non-belief on everyone else. Good luck with that and God Bless!



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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Hey what happened to all supporters that claimed Stalin, Mao, etc etc killed because they were Atheist lol.

This just goes to show, just because someone is associated with reason A, does not mean they did because of reason A. Unless he shouts "Death to Reason B" or "For Reason A", which is a different matter.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by MagnumOpus
I came in from cutting the grass to find the news saturated with a shooting in Aurora. Co., which is also the region for a big church shooting earlier in time.




www.christianpost.com...


James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Described as 'Normal' Christian Boy Amid Mental Health Investigation

--------

James Eagan Holmes has been described as a shy and well-mannered young man by a neighbor, who claims the Colorado shooting suspect was heavily involved in his local Presbyterian church.




Looks like the earlier Aurora, Co. shooting was in April




www.huffingtonpost.com...




It appears the church is failing teaching the Morals like: thou shalt not kill.

Makes one wonder if these things would turn out differently if these shooters chose to go play golf on the most holy day of the week.

Could it be all the double talk in religion makes some people a little crazy?




Are you really this obtuse? Or is this a joke? Your blaming the religion this kid follows for his actions, but decide to leave out the possibility of mental/neurologic dysfunction. Why didn't you also list his academic discipline of neuroscience, or his race as a contributing factor to his crime?

Whoa! Better watch out for them crazy Christians they all out to kill us! Idiot.


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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by AQuestion
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Dear MagnumOpus,

Shame on you for using this tragic event to attack Christianity. Do you really believe his pastor told him to go out dressed up as the Joker and shoot people? You are no better than the people who whine that someone took their six year old to a midnight showing, as if the parents even could guess that their child would be shot. Show some compassion for the families rather than trying to use this event to push your bigotry and your agenda.


1. I didn't write the story title, but I sure noticed it.

2. It doesn't appear he was dressed as Joker, as he had on bullet proof vest and riot helmit.

3. Don't think I said a word about kids out at midnight.

4. All I am doing is speaking to a Christian Connections, seeking more information, and not having blindness.

5. One can't ask those difficult questions and turn the theme into a prayer vigil.

It is appears you have a number of Inaccuracies. Time will tell what issues affected him, but for now there are some questions on the table.

Around here there are some preachers that speak against Gays, and sitting in the audience of their church are armed security agents with Uzi's tucked under their Coat Jackets. Religion appears to have come to be a battle ground, where the Preachers hire private security that act like the Secret Service with Uzi guns to protect the preacher.


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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by britelite1971
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I think he probably just lost it because of all the constant harping of atheists....on and on and on. You know the atheists that have no life so they spend their time studying other people's religion just so they can attempt to disprove it and drag as many people as possible over to the dark side. Why would you even visit christianpost.com if you hate christianity? Where do you find the time? Next thing you know you'll be door knocking....oh wait, you have the internet to try to force your non-belief on everyone else. Good luck with that and God Bless!



I see you are in great dispair because the "Christian Post" tossed out the title of "Normal Christian Boy" shot up a Movie threater. Even Google reads it, and I was curious on what it considered a Normal Christian Boy was about.

I study religions, even Masons, and for each study look for the truth. If the test for truth fails, I am not shy on pointing it out.

One tends to find the Masons teach critical thinking and teach about allegorcal and metaphorical speaking. They don't limit themselves to one book and go where the history takes them seaching for the truth. The churches teach only one book, complete with its many flaws, and it is more about memorization of the book without any want for Critical Thinking and looking outside the one book at the earlier history.

I don't force my little views on anyone, they can chose to read it or read something else. I just toss out the details, lay down the logic, lay out the history, and that seems to have you in a tizzy. I certainly don't run around telling folks they are going to Hell, unless they subscribe to your beliefs. Sounds like scare tactics and intimidation are in with Christian preaching, all that hell fire and damnation.

I don't have Masons on my doorstep trying to get me to come to this church or that church, but I do find their teachings quite interesting. I do think they are much more successful than the churches in teaching people to have honor and good moral compass. They teach everyone to think critically, if you follow all the steps up to 33rd degree. I have had more than one Mason tell me they almost committed suicide when they learned the deeper details on Christianty, because they found they were lied to by the churches.

I have also noticed one of the things that makes kids turn psychotic is to lie to them and keep twisting the truth, so they can no longer have a strong moral compass.

Is this the case for this shooting? Time will tell.

This is a discussion list, and you should not expect folks to underwrite lots of the embellished stories in the Bible's Narratives, that upon good historic checking fail to live up to the claims of many of their claims for religion.


edit on 21-7-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Religion in the End-Times has an awakening, which some suggest will cause problems.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by deadeyedick
I find it hard to belive that someone that was going for a php could have such bad comprehension skills for the bible is clearly against violence after Jesus gave his suit for our sins...
It just gives more credence to this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...


2/3 of the Bible isn't about Jesus, and what is about Jesus has some problems.

The Old Testament god isn't Jesus god, but most of the organized religion insists the Jesus' god is the Old Testament's god Yahweh. So, religion promotes a great deal of confusion, especially when Jesus tells that his god isn't everyone elses and calls him "Abba" or "Daddy."

The Old Testament god spends a good deal of time either killing this or that, demanding burned sacrifices, and being Jealous, and the organized churches that I have seen sure don't explain these things well. Most of them deny the church members the details of the Creator gods and what the history of Ancient Sumeria was about. It started with leaving off the Book of Enoch and anything that explains the issue of Creation better with Adam and Eve and the genetic bump in the evolution curve.

Me, I didn't stop with reading the Bible and I kept reading ever going earlier than the Bible Begins. Then the pieces become much more clear.

I think the basic definition for most Christians is that of poor comprehension skills. Even outright denial of information essential to understanding religion better.

Religion tends to promote an imposed ignorance, so they can keep up a fantasy tale.

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by britelite1971
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I think he probably just lost it because of all the constant harping of atheists....on and on and on. You know the atheists that have no life so they spend their time studying other people's religion just so they can attempt to disprove it and drag as many people as possible over to the dark side. Why would you even visit christianpost.com if you hate christianity? Where do you find the time? Next thing you know you'll be door knocking....oh wait, you have the internet to try to force your non-belief on everyone else. Good luck with that and God Bless!


This is why:



He's the puppet, the hand belongs to Satan.
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 01:12 AM
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I wouldn't try to use the extreme rare exception to define a rule.. that's terrible application of reason and logic.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
Hey what happened to all supporters that claimed Stalin, Mao, etc etc killed because they were Atheist lol.

This just goes to show, just because someone is associated with reason A, does not mean they did because of reason A. Unless he shouts "Death to Reason B" or "For Reason A", which is a different matter.


You're correct, in Philosophy that's commonly called a "genetic fallacy".



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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There are quite many Christians in USA. The probability that one would turn out quite twisted is no surprise!

Modern Christianity is also a watered-down religion just basking in the former glory of itself. It's no longer brave enough to preach the truth and the true Will of the Father which was also watered down as a subject of mystery. It makes Christians look just like everyone else... Still surprised??

Today, everyone is told to search 'the will of God for their lives' There is no such thing, only 'The Will of God for Himself'! There is only one, which is to seek and reconcile the lost to God. Go to the ends of the Earth where no one goes. The modern Christian church is a mess, it's a compromise to the world.

Modern Christianity brings a bad reputation to True Christianity. They divide Christianity into easy, normal, hard, very hard, and boss modes which is by the way, the 'lukewarm' modes! when there is only one - the 'Jesus Mode' - leave all your possessions, follow him, carry your cross. It's gonna be hard!
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by AQuestion
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Allow me to observe that your theme is a flat out hate attack against persons that differ from your religion, and who ask a simple question:





It appears the church is failing teaching the Morals like: thou shalt not kill.

Makes one wonder if these things would turn out differently if these shooters chose to go play golf on the most holy day of the week.

Could it be all the double talk in religion makes some people a little crazy?



The middle line was borrowed from The Simpsons, which was playing on TV last evening that asked a like question on golf and holy day. I suppose, next, you will have to launch an attack on The Simpson writers for that line, and making fun of George for thinking he was going to be taken up into heaven bodily. Yeah, even the TV cartoon doesn't bode well for the Christians belief, and makes great comedy of it.

This isn't the pray vigil thread, nor you own personal hate movement against noticing the "Normal Christian Boy" terms in the title for Christian Post's article.

It appears to me that you are the Bigot here and work on the level of personal attacks expousing pure hate for asking questions on does the church promote moral compass, or does it fail terribly.


Your problem is the question of moral compass, as applied to Christians, hits right on top of the biggest failures of the churches, when they embellish the history to the point of becoming myth, while attempting to claim all is true.

This shows up with claims for Yahweh as god, when the claim is no more valid than Nimrod was god. It shows up again in the claims that Jesus is god, and even the Bible's content is forged in regard to Trinity in John. It shows up again and again, when history is compared to the embellished texts.

The truth of religion stings and you can't take the simple truth, so you attack the person and can't stick to the subject material. Such is generally all one can expect from the Christians is an all out attack on persons stating the issues clearly and easily to the point the church foundations are crumbling due to the own weight of their false teachings.

Shame on you as a promoter of religious nonsense, that appears to have some person think more of Joker than Jesus, as their moral compass. One fiction against the other and the trickster wins.

Best of all, show everyone how you followed Jesus teachings via your latest rant. Obviously, we have another normal Christian Boy in the making with you. Like the Joker, you reject Jesus teachings here for all to see.

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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I wouldn't try to use the extreme rare exception to define a rule.. that's terrible application of reason and logic.


The issue appears to be one of a "Normal Christian Boy" that appears to not have "Jesus" as his model in life, but that of another fictional character named "Joker". And Jesus has been fictionalized to a large extent due to the old world churches trying to build up a faked up god theme for a Man.

It is a question of is this a general rule, one of do the churches have many reject Jesus values due to embellishments into a fiction world belief, so much so, that the Normal Christian Boy adopted Joker as his Hero in life.

Which is a fair question to consider, and is pure application of reason and logic on this bad situation.


edit on 21-7-2012 by MagnumOpus because: In Colorado the fictional archtype Joker won over Jesus, in the land of good and evil of Gotham City



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by luciddream
Hey what happened to all supporters that claimed Stalin, Mao, etc etc killed because they were Atheist lol.

This just goes to show, just because someone is associated with reason A, does not mean they did because of reason A. Unless he shouts "Death to Reason B" or "For Reason A", which is a different matter.


You're correct, in Philosophy that's commonly called a "genetic fallacy".


Did Stalin and Mao do anything different than the OT god theme, of killing all those against you?

Communism didn't like organized religion because it interfered too much with their socialism issues. Jesus came from the Socialistic Essene camp of Mt. Carmel, but you won't hear the organized churches tell people this history. Churches too often interfere with matters of state.

The organized church is behind the theme of the OT god, where man would dare to be god, to promote power and control by the few. The OT Yahweh is all about gold, slavery of man, and keeping the power in their hands and disenfranchising others to the point of floods to kill off mankind because they were too much like themselves.

There is little difference between Yahweh and Nimrod, as both held similar genetic builds. Jesus came from the like genetic build, to the point of being blonde and blue eyed, just as the Enlil/Enki genetics sourced long before.

Religion too often promotes kings and a ruling class, and in a system that promotes economic equity that is against the issues for the state.

In the issues for Bat Man and Robin, it appears they are for the Bourgeoisie class. So, it may be the Aurora shooter was the pro-proletariat class as Joker in his anti-Bourgeoisie games to interfere with class distinctions. The theme for Batman centers in Gotham, which is Washington Erving's name for New York City. Might be this is Aurora's version for 911.

These problems have been going on a long time and they even show up in the Movies as archtype characters, where the lines between what is good and what is evil are blurred by religion's double-talk.


edit on 21-7-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Can Normal Christian Boys really find moral compass in the Bible Narratives?



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