Originally posted by iIuminaIi
reply to post by racasan
Yeah i get it - Differ historical analysis and accept sheer words with no evidence, but anyways who's taking to you?
edit on 23-7-2012 by iIuminaIi because: (no reason given)
Wrong! There is a secret dark cabal. They are real!
Do you have any commentary toward the recent Colorado shootings?
Whats about the Dark Knight Rises movie itself...
Most of the people in urban setlements will take food and close for granted, when people in third world countries are working their ass off, and living in poverty and even starvations.
they try to force people into submision, through lies or terror, both!
Belief shall be private to every individual.
The experience is to be intepreted solely by the one who is going through the experience himself.
An attempt to generalize spiritual understanding would be misleading.
Originally posted by maung
Originally posted by coyote66
I may sound rude, but to me, only stupid people will completely believe in the monotheistic god. Since they are too lazy or unable to thinker for themselves. Or just too deeply brainwashed in prolonged timespan.
And I want to add this. A ritual is a means to signify something that in reality has no meaning whatsoever. It gives people the illusion that the event/object has trully occured or trully exist. When in fact it is completely non-existent.
edit on 23-7-2012 by coyote66 because: (no reason given)
And it sound that you are not stupid cuz you dont believe in monotheistic God. Sometimes i wonder about people like you. Are you willing to compare and compete your brain with any people who believe in monotheist God, to know who is smarter?
If there any person who believe of monotheist God that smarter than you, what you are then in your own opinion? In this case you can choose any knowledge you prefer.
I dont want to comment to this thread cuz it is too obvious, but since you keep saying about representative of female and male, energy, yin and yang, what you know about that?
Have you learn about living energy, and till how far you learn and mastered it? How far you can see or go to other dimension, and until what dimension?
From one of your post you said you are come from Indonesia, and so am i. You can easily find someone who know about energy. Are you ever challenge them in any way? Do you know how it works? Have you debate with a good ulama about islam from spiritual view? and from you view about male and female energy?
Here how you think about something and it is kind of trend inhere lately. You see point A. Then you see point F.
You see another point Y. Forget about what is A, F or Y, just connect it and add something as filler from empty air.
Another thing for everyone who only think religion just only about physical thing. Have everyone heard that religion is about spiritual? Have anyone learn about your own spirituality?
Originally posted by coyote66
Other dimensions? No wonder you believe in the monotheistic god. Let me assume, you talk about this out of experiece, maybe?
Yeah I know about stories about dataran tinggi dieng. One look at your avatar you must be Sundanese, correct?
Why shall I challange them, they are probably not worth my time And most of the spiritual ulamas are probably gay, I see no point why I shall visit them. All they do is probably just seeking for attention? Attention and trust is still two of the most popular source of energy everywhere. Thus acknoledgement. You are influenced by them because you actually believed their sulap trick You shouldnt, neither should you believe in the monotheistic god, which is the reason why you are dumbed down all this time
Atuhlah, teu deuy bogbog pisan, kalo inyong sih ora sudi diapusi karo uwong. There, you convinced now, I am from indonesia? No I dont speak Sundanese very well.edit on 24-7-2012 by coyote66 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by maung
It was you who said in the first place, the truth behind christianity vs islam and talk about female and male and about people who believed in monotheistic God is stupid. So i want to know have you challenge your intelligence with them? in any field you wish?
Sure in easy way just challenge them in math, chemistry, electronic etc you prefer will be easy to know.
But since you said moon is female, sun is male, and from my stupid understanding you didnt say it in biological term ( or were you ) lol so i assume you talking about energy and behaviour ( even i dont really know who really think like this).
But if you will never have the intention to prove the claim, i guess your conclusion is as fragile as Ctrl + A + del then.
Saying and most of the spiritual ulamas are probably gay without willing to know them or even considering what the story in society, i guess it is you who want some attention. So was adding " the truth" on the title mean something ?edit on 24-7-2012 by maung because: no reason
In the Indian Tantra Yoga system, there are two nerves, the "Ida" and "Pingala" which intertwine around the spinal cord. There is a central vertical nerve within the spinal cord that connects to the brain and is called in Sanskrit "Susumna." Ida is feminine (conduit of negative lunar current) and Pingala is masculine (conduit of positive solar current). These two are responsible for the alternate breathing from the right to the left nostril and vice versa. They both indicate Time (Kala), and Susumna devours Kala (time). When Kundalini is aroused through yoga, the kundalini is made to arise through the central nerve cavity, the Susumna. Once on this path, entry is made into timelessness. (John Woodroffe, The Serpent Power, 111) The correspondence to Jung's description of the process of individuation is striking. It appears that Kundalini as described here, is the corresponding body process to the psychological assimilation of unconscious contents. In other words, the arousal of prana into the central nerve channel ends the tyranny of Ida and Pingala which creates the world of duality. Once prana enters Susumna, the impersonal timeless life of the Self is awakened. Meaning perhaps can only arise when the duality that fractures life into male/female, matter/mind, subject/object is dissolved. This correspondence between the two systems deserves a thorough exploration and holds exciting possibilities for future research.
Originally posted by coyote66
This is a article that has the similar opinion, that the female energy is being deprived all this time. Its wounded and need tobe healed. Great article. wakeup-world.com...
Why is it hard for me to understand what you are talking about? You life in the forest or something? What do you mean? I did a lot of debates in kaskus, is that what you mean? Are you in any posible way retarded?
If not, this is my opinion, its not about wrong and right, since people can be forced into submision. Most of people are gulible anyway, thats why they are easily brainwashed into believing in god. They just dont know what to do with their life. In short, they dont differ much with schimpanzee or cattle. Thats the degree of awareness of most people. Thats why democracy is also meciocracy. Because most people are mere livestock, thats their level of inteligence. They are insecure, ignorant, self indulgant, in denial of themselves, and what else?
Why would I want to know them anyway, they are liars, dont you understand? You are not making any sense. I dont trust them, they are just wasting my precious time. They are just attention whores to me! Cheap and manipulating. Let me ask you something: if someone serves you garbage on the dinning table, would you eat it? Thats the way I feel about religious men in general. Just like Nietzsche said "If I talk to religious men, I feel so dirty that I want to wash myself afterwards".
Talking is cheap, and thats what priests and ulamas do. They are filthy and a disgrace in my eyes. I think I'm going to kill one with my own hands, and I would feel no remorse, I'm certain Vice versa, it would be so releaving and a good anger channeling to me Thats how much I hate religion and religious faggots!!edit on 24-7-2012 by coyote66 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by coyote66
I don't believe I ever called you a "she," but always just "you." My friend is a she, and I said You remind me of Her. You could be an androgynous coral-alien from the Horse Head nebula for all I care; your gender wasn't what reminded me of my friend. More so your belief that Powers That Be are holding you down, and your attempt to escape from them through some kind of a spiritual awakening and recognition of their existence.
As for being a ṣūfī, no, I did not remain in the practice, as I did not believe in the sovereignty of Allah. Unfortunately, the whole goal of being a ṣūfī is to come to loving submission of Allah. I couldn't do it. Not that I didn't try, and not that I didn't enjoy the mystical communal element. It certainly helped me understand my Muslim friends better, and opened my eyes up, turning me away from the Islamophobia, and xenophobia which grips our nation so much right now.
I'm not still a ṣūfī though.
As for the freedom of speech, of course you do. However, freedom only extends as far as it does not encroach on the freedom of another human being. You can say whatever you want, and no one can stop you. Likewise, there is no law against me pulling to light the contradictions and faults in what you say. That's all I did in my previous post: show where what you said you were fighting against, is exactly what you were doing.
Pot, meet kettle...
Concerning "changing sides," I don't know where I did that. I've never been against Islam. I've only said that I don't believe in, or support, Islamic spirituality. Which I still don't. My own lack-of-faith had to have come from personally experiencing it. Anyone who discards a system of belief, without having experienced it, is just plain stupid. I hope that's not what you do. You seem to know much about Islam, so I would hope your dislike of it comes from having lived and been a Muslim; not just from the slander the faith receives from bigoted news networks and fear-mongering politicians.
I'm glad to see you're liberal too. When I can stomach the joke that is American politics, I also place my vote on the left. I can't stand conservatives.