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False Flag Alert in Aurora : Biggest Mass Shooting in the History of the USA is not a coincidence

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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I personally this is a real event, but orchestrated through the ones in power. Told a guy to go shoot up a movie theater, and he will be taken care of. Of course he will get arrested, but what happens after that? CIA or FBI can take him for questioning, and never tell anyone what happens to him after. They can say he is held at some base in "jail".

I don't think this is a false flag, rather an event to further push the support for gun control in America. This isn't a case of someone being mentally deranged enough to shoot up a movie theater at a new release. The movie had nothing to do with this, I think. The only weird thing is that he started shooting as the movie was shooting, but honestly that would be the "best" time to do what he did.

And all this right before the UN votes on a gun treaty.

Wont surrender my guns. At all.
The real message from this, is that we should carry, so we can protect our population should this actually happen by some random guy.

Would you point your gun at someone you know that has a gun? I would think not. Would you start shooting at a group of people where 1/2 of them carry a gun? No.

Yes guns are pretty much killing tools, but like with any tool, it all depends on the user to use it correctly and in the right setting.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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I call complete and utter BS on point number 4. I know Many MANY people who own these three guns and quite a few more on top of this. These people wouldn't be considered "dangerous" because they own these firearms. I own a couple of glocks, 2-3 shotguns of various brands, but I don't own an AR solely because I can't justify ponying up the grand to buy a .223 when I can buy a bolt action or similar semi auto for less.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by Honor93
 


this year...i've accepted that it is not coincidence.

this is not the government...its something much bigger.




Agreed .. its extremely more bigger then the government itself
far more then anyone could ever imagine
they are just tools and puppets
and its the case for more then half of worldwide governments



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:04 PM
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I responded to you in a polite manner because I felt you were underplaying how this can effect gun control in the United States, then you start your creative writing tirade. You can write as many letters / call your rep as many times as you like.....public perception IS the key to regulation and the ones who want to restrict firearms to the public are winning.

and like you, on my weekend and would rather not continue this back and forth, was just trying to discuss what I felt.
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Witness describes 2nd accomplice in tragic 'Dark Knight' Theater Massacre

Second accomplice in tragic Batman Denver Shooting Eyewitness Account opened Emergency door and left shooter in after receiving a phone call.

Witnesses confirm that James Eagan Holmes was let into the theater by a 2nd accomplice and claim a 2nd smoke grenade was thrown from the back of the theater.
Colorado Theater Shooter had accomplices! Witness statement to CNN!
According to a strong witness who was sitting near the shooter, the shooter received a call, went to an emergency door and gestured to someone to come close. Minutes before the shooting, the movie was shut off and the theater was left in complete darkness. The shooter was an unemployed medical student who had military grade gear including body armor, explosives and other weaponry commonly used by SWAT officers. This gear nears $20000 and most of it is not available to civilians. So even if he could afford it, he would not qualify to legally obtain it, as the media has stated that it was purchased legally. His home was rigged with a maze of explosives that will take days to disarm. The explosives expert for local police stated that it is not like anything he has ever seen in his career. The sophistication is beyond



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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why do people scream we need more gun control laws?

that does not work ever because criminals dont care about the damm law

they outlawed drugs did it work?

how about countefiet goods did it work?

internet gamblin did it work?

theres so many others

criminals dont care about the laws



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by coldkidc
I'm sure this has already been discussed ad nauseam but how did a college student without a job afford to buy all that crap at once...

AR, S&W = lets say conservatively $650
Glocks x2 = conservatively $900.00
Remington 870 = $300
Body armor - chest = $250
Body armor - neck = $100
Body armor - helmet = $150
Drum magazine = $120 + regular 30 round AR mags @ $15/mag
Glock mags = $20/mag

6000 rounds of ammo is insane...if it was all .223/5.56 (AR15) is would cost around $1600 for the cheapest crappiest steel ammo available
6000 rounds of Glock .40 cal would be a little less - somewhere around $1300.00

On top of that you got all the accesories and crap, gloves, pouches, vest, plates, tactical crap, which can add up very quickly

Sooo...basically we're talking about a jobless college student dropping somewhere in the neighborhood of $5000.00 in less than a couple months...

This is a very conservative estimate btw you can easily add at least $1000 if he wasn't concerned with bargain hunting (which I'm guessing was probably the case).

I'm not saying it's not possible in this world of credit cards & crap but damn...I didn't have those kind of limits when I was in college & especially not now with the banks being stingy on credit...

I would have thought that his card company would have slowed him down when they suddenly start seeing $1000+ purchases show up in a small window of time unless he had a history of large purchases which bears asking...where did his money come from then?

Just a thought...

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Very good points

and he was a student living in a small appartment
i have know people studying to be doctors .. they can barely afford going to restos
working at a small job .. studying for their dream to be doctors
then eating, maybe play a few games on the ps3 or computer or watch tv to relax
James didnt had the profile to waste that much money and risk his carreer by buying dangerous stuff massively
was he a zombie apocalypse prepper or what ..why would he suddenly go kill kids and innocent after going crazy
and calmy surrender to police who took him in a van before anyone could recognise James face

if james was near the cinema without any gears .. video cameras would have caught him
why are they still hidding such important information but release grisly details of people who had bullet holes in their heads

this is the most poorly executed false flag cover operation in the entire US history
i should change the title for that
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
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with all the posters claiming this was just some guy who tossed his cookies



no better proof of Mind-Kontrol than that, IMO.



I dont believe it was James under mindcontrol
he was mindless and didnt speak at all during the shooting
not to reveal the real identity of the shooter
because if he have spoken .. with all the cell phones in the cinema
someone would have recorded the killer voice and somehow
a real audio expert would be able to take the real voice of James and compare it with the recorded killer voice
apparently the cops were quick to round up all survivor and debrief them + confiscating all electronic devices

The more i look and analyse all the detail
The more i realise this was a poorly planned cover up that killed a lot of innocent
these attacks alays serve a purpose .. like the biggest attack in American history on 9/11
so they could sign their war bills

They have become Predictable way to much
almost like the elites are coming out of their holes
London Olympic have all the signs of another false flag
we need to stay alert .. because by exposing the lies ... we save lifes
been into conspiracies for 10 yrs .. i learned to trust my guts more
this is what people are scared today .. trusting their own guts
but they prefere to trust the MSM


TV is one big Mindcontrol weapon of mass destruction
people care more about what going to happen before her and him in Jersey Shore
then whats happening right now in the world in REAL LIFE
when people will take out their heads from the sand .. humanity will have a chance to prevail



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by ComeFindMe

Originally posted by adamneldon
I see it as a reason to make it easier for people to get a gun. Here is the way I see it. A bad person that wants to kill will always find a way to do it. No matter how well you control guns, if a bad guy wants one, they will get one. But, if someone else in the theater had a gun on them, they could have dropped the guy before he got off more than a couple of shots.


Except that if its easier for 'good guys' to own guns, it would also be easier for 'bad guys' to own guns. That would, inevitably, lead to a proportionate increase in the amount of tragedies.


The "bad guys" obviously already have the guns. Even the playing field.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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Coroner identifies 12 victims in Colorado movie theater shooting


Arapahoe County Coroner Michael Dobersen said in a statement "a total of 11 victims have been definitively identified ... One additional victim, had been presumptively identified." They are as follows:


Jessica N. Ghawi, 24

Veronica Moser-Sullivan, 6

John T. Larimer, 27

Alexander J. Boik, 18

Jesse E. Childress, 29

Jonathan T. Blunk, 26

Rebecca Ann Wingo, 32

Alex M. Sullivan, 27

Gordon W. Cowden, 51

Micayala C. Medek, 23

Alexander C. Teves, 24


Another victim, Matthew R. McQuinn, 27, has been presumptively identified, but is awaiting definitive identification, the coroner's office said. (Reporting by Stephanie Simon; Writing by Tim Gaynor; Editing by Peter Cooney and Stacey Joyce)


Victims

I don't want to downplay the seriousness of this tragedy, but if it was a mind control massacre, could any of these people be the "target".



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Screwed

Ughhh not another one!!!



Another what? A person who doesn't see the cops/government as my savior for all situations? There are like 70 plus people in this latest attack that the cops did nothing for...


Truly think about "when seconds count, cops are minutes away"



No,
Another one who feels the need to get involved in a discussion like this and tell everyone which firearm you carry, and how you have it modded out, which bullets you use,which sites you have,which holster, etc etc etc.

No one really cares and it doesn't really matter.
YES, you are a bad ass and we all get that.
YES, you would have saved the day and killed that crazy ass psychopath and then looked at him lying there bleeding out and said some really kick-ass movie line and watched him die but....... you just weren't there.
Damn the luck.

It just rubs me the wrong way when insecure men feel the need to talk about how big their dicks are durnig a time like this that's all.

I agree with gun rights.
I am for the second ammendment.
I love guns.
I have a dick too and it is just as big as yours
I just don't feel the need to bring it up when it is so clearly off topic and adds nothing to the discussion.

Now then,
These blatant attempts to bury the second ammendment are getting just SOOOO transparant.
I would bet my eyes that this was ALL a pre-planned well thought out and CIA approved plot.
If you don't think so then you clearly don't know squat about the CIA and just how good they really are.

YES, that good.
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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We are going far now if we start saying the victims were targeted for some reasons
and it was not only random shooting

I heard that one US Marine died or was shot
maybe this marines was talking to much recently ? who knows
but i will not start speculating on this and that James was under mind control

I think the gunman was not James at all



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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What if I told you I predicted the date of 7-20-2012 a month ago as being important. I would seem crazy. What if I told you I started on ats the same day just to document my finds, You would think I was off the deep end. well I must be. www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by slapmyface
What if I told you I predicted the date of 7-20-2012 a month ago as being important. I would seem crazy. What if I told you I started on ats the same day just to document my finds, You would think I was off the deep end. well I must be. www.abovetopsecret.com...


The illuminati moves are starting to get really predictable indeed
they are getting out of their hole because the 21 december is in 5 months

Your prediction was correct .. Nice Job

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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It was probably one these sick ass days of sacrifice or something.
I think people really don't understand just how F ing sick and twisted these people are with numerology and the occult.

By these people I mean the people who most likely really carried this out.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by KibbleChild
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Also this will undoubtably be used to install T.S.A gropers in movie theaters and probably shopping malls. Something big sis has wanted for a long time. Just to throw this out there, the acronym for “National Association of Theatre Owners” is.......N A T O.


And yet most Americans will still say they live in the best country in the world.

Ignorant perfection.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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I also think I have seen this guy James holmes on ATS. I am sure I saw his picture on an avatar. I can not find it now.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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Maybe it's a conspiracy against the movie industry. Is anyone really going to go out to the movies anymore, now?



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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I just got back from the movie. I had to see for myself what it was.



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