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False Flag Alert in Aurora : Biggest Mass Shooting in the History of the USA is not a coincidence

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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It wasnt the biggest massshooting by deads. Maybe by dead and wounded combined?

If everybody has access to a gun, down the road, from time to time, somebody who snaps WILL use firearms on a senseless murder spree. It does not take manipulation from zhe goverment for that to happen.

That is something people who defend gun rights will have to accept, people who snap without warning will have now and in the future acess to firearms and will use them on a spree.

You will have to defend gun rights, by pointing out that in the past in Europe and elsewhere goverments who held all the martial power turned on their people and even the smallest of the goverment organised athrocities eclipsed all the sprees comitted by individuals combined and therefore a spree every odd years is the smaller evil when there is the potential for a goverment turning on an undefended population.

But you cant throw a false flag out of the hat you will have to work with the fact that peole who snap have access to firearms.




posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Aurora police ready ‘controlled detonation’ at home of alleged shooter James Holmes

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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I'm sure this has already been discussed ad nauseam but how did a college student without a job afford to buy all that crap at once...

AR, S&W = lets say conservatively $650
Glocks x2 = conservatively $900.00
Remington 870 = $300
Body armor - chest = $250
Body armor - neck = $100
Body armor - helmet = $150
Drum magazine = $120 + regular 30 round AR mags @ $15/mag
Glock mags = $20/mag

6000 rounds of ammo is insane...if it was all .223/5.56 (AR15) is would cost around $1600 for the cheapest crappiest steel ammo available
6000 rounds of Glock .40 cal would be a little less - somewhere around $1300.00

On top of that you got all the accesories and crap, gloves, pouches, vest, plates, tactical crap, which can add up very quickly

Sooo...basically we're talking about a jobless college student dropping somewhere in the neighborhood of $5000.00 in less than a couple months...

This is a very conservative estimate btw you can easily add at least $1000 if he wasn't concerned with bargain hunting (which I'm guessing was probably the case).

I'm not saying it's not possible in this world of credit cards & crap but damn...I didn't have those kind of limits when I was in college & especially not now with the banks being stingy on credit...

I would have thought that his card company would have slowed him down when they suddenly start seeing $1000+ purchases show up in a small window of time unless he had a history of large purchases which bears asking...where did his money come from then?

Just a thought...

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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with all the posters claiming this was just some guy who tossed his cookies



no better proof of Mind-Kontrol than that, IMO.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 11:47 AM
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Except, Holmes didn't snap without warning. His attack took careful planning with skills that it isn't clear how he obtained. You're fear mongering. He could have easily mowed down people at a crowded establishment with a car.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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The thing I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around is his apartment. How the heck did this guy booby trap this apartment so that it has taken the police with bomb squads over 24 hours to get in without blowing himself up?

I have seen nothing to indicate this guy had any particular interest or knowledge of explosives and such. So, how did he do it?

Also, I haven't seen this mentioned (but I did skip from page 8 to this last one, so maybe it has). May 17, 2012, the FBI issued a warning of terrorists attacks in theaters.
info.publicintelligence.net...



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Finalized
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Except, Holmes didn't snap without warning. His attack took careful planning with skills that it isn't clear how he obtained. You're fear mongering. He could have easily mowed down people at a crowded establishment with a car.


I am the one fearmongering? Millions and millions of people have access to firearms. Out of those millions of people only a tiny fraction go on a spree, far less than 0,001% . There is no need for goverment intervention to get a spree. If the goverment wants to exploit a killing spree for whatever reason, all they have to do is wait for one to occour.

Only because he planned it carefully does not mean he did not snap. No evidence has been presented that it was a false flag attack.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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I agree that intervention is not needed...People should be careful about knee-jerk reactions to this sort of thing

The fact is that this sort of thing has always happened - even before we had guns there was a long list of historical massacres

It is a very unfortunate part of this existence and human nature that there are some very sick bad apples in the group

Not much can be done about it except taking mental illness seriously by offering counseling & treatment for potential problem children & adults and allowing people to defend themselves so these sort of rampages can hopefully be cut short



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Before I read further into this thread (on pg15), people seem to tossing around the ide that this was staged in order to distract the public from something else.


Has anyone bothered to dig up anything that may be of conern to US citizens or even the rest of the world (for example, the middle east) that occured under the radar of this tradgedy?


If this was in fact staged to draw attention away from something surely it would have happened on that day, and if not we as a communnity need to keep our eyes/ears peeled for anything that may be a reason to keep focus on this massacre.


I don't know enough about what is happening around the world (except for this UN arms treaty), but maybe some other here have some insight on something that TPTB may have wanted to distract the public from.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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A former college student that dropped out of a phd program. He was an exceptional student according to other students. He probably had more grant money put away than he needed. When someone gives you a grant, they don't make sure that you spend it on education. They trust that you will use it for your own betterment. They throw money at kids like him.

Another thing that seems to be mentioned that I have yet to discuss. The cops showed up too fast, or faster than normal.

The slowest police cruisers in America will do at least 120mph. Do the math. That's two miles every sixty seconds they can maintain that speed. They don't travel at those speeds for just any call, but they can and will get there in a hurry if it's needed. Ive seen cops respond to bad calls. They can get there a lot faster than you might think. Five miles? Two and a half minutes, maybe three.

I saw a bank robery once. The cop met him at the door as he was leaving.
How's that for response time?



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Finalized
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Except, Holmes didn't snap without warning. His attack took careful planning with skills that it isn't clear how he obtained. You're fear mongering. He could have easily mowed down people at a crowded establishment with a car.


I agree.... we have 350 million people in the US and it doesn't take guns to do a mass killing if that is your goal. I would say a truck would do more and over a wider area.

Something really strange with this case....Not your typical social outcast stereotype.

The guy was 24 with full scholarship in a PHD graduate program in neuroscience, so basically a 4.0 student since middle school at least. I need to wonder what the hell happened this last year with him where he changes to devoting all his time and money to this end. He was dropping out of school since it looks like this became his priority over everything else. We can rule out drugs, so what was it?????

First thing that comes to mind would be a brain tumor...




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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by MmmPie
Before I read further into this thread (on pg15), people seem to tossing around the ide that this was staged in order to distract the public from something else.


Has anyone bothered to dig up anything that may be of conern to US citizens or even the rest of the world (for example, the middle east) that occured under the radar of this tradgedy?


If this was in fact staged to draw attention away from something surely it would have happened on that day, and if not we as a communnity need to keep our eyes/ears peeled for anything that may be a reason to keep focus on this massacre.




I don't know enough about what is happening around the world (except for this UN arms treaty), but maybe some other here have some insight on something that TPTB may have wanted to distract the public from.


This will be used to solidify the Presidents choice to support the UN arms treaty.

When in fact, if he does support it, he should be tried for treason for the undermining of the US Constitution he swore to uphold.


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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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If more gun laws are implemented they are going to have a lot more problems on their hands. I carry a small concealed 9mm , even with body armor on , that close of a range , 2 or 3 9mm rounds hitting center torso would cause shock. I would be aiming for the neck area however.

I carry and its just for reasons like this.
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by MmmPie
Before I read further into this thread (on pg15), people seem to tossing around the ide that this was staged in order to distract the public from something else.


Has anyone bothered to dig up anything that may be of conern to US citizens or even the rest of the world (for example, the middle east) that occured under the radar of this tradgedy?




Well within minutes we had Democrats screaming to ban assault rifles and limiting anything over 10 rounds...
Remember, the number one goal to taking over this society is to remove those pesky guns from the equation.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:17 PM
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Gun control may be their intentional objective, but I don't think it will "Fly" because we know what happened in Europe when it was implemented there and it simply increased crime. Many Americans are no longer asleep and we are educating ourselves and we do know about "Mind Control and Implants" and this one smells rather "fishy". Perhaps "they" are running low on "energy" and need to try and create more fear (which is their energy source). If even some of the people in the movie had possessed a gun, perhaps some lives may have been saved. I see absolutely no reason we should give up our rights to self defense. Accepting the unacceptable is not Saintly ... it is dysfunctional (a quote from Almine Diary @: diary.spiritualjourneys.com...



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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I think one day when we get thru all of this -- and by this I mean the dark times we are living in full of deciet and wickedness which knows no bounds-- and we find ourself on the otherside of enlightenment the truth will
come out and we will all be apalled at just how controlled and micro managed even the tinyest details of our everyday lives actually were.

I am begining to see that EVERY goddamned major event in our history seems to always lead back to the same ol' usual suspects. They were always there.

I am about sick and tired of all of the Batman references but,
If you go back and rewatch the first of the installments you'll see that they were trying to tell us the way things are done.

They are the 'League of Shadows'.




Gotham's time has come. Like Constantinople or Rome before it the city has become a breeding ground for suffering and injustice. It is beyond saving and must be allowed to die. This is the most important function of the League of Shadows. It is one we've performed for centuries. Gotham... must be destroyed


Spoiler Alert - Christians, you may stop reading NOW!
This next part will do you NO good and will only serve to anger and confuse you because I am an agent of the devil himself sent here to try and shake your belief in the God of the Bible.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

They, Like Lucifer, are here to help.
If you've never read the thread 'Window of Opportunity' by member Hidden_Hand, I would suggest you do so
for a full understanding of just what exactly is going on here and what is at stake.
It mirrors my own research and understanding to a tee.

Ultimately the lies,deciet,horrendous acts of violence,human sacrifices, etc will serve our greater good.

Just as a child must be allowed to touch the hot stove,
We MUST be allowed to destroy ourselves!!!
It is only thru this that we can grow and learn from our mistakes.

When I let my child touch a hot stove it is not because I hate them or want to see them in pain.
It hurts me to see someone I love so dearly in pain.
But, I know that if 'I' don't teach them in a controlled environment NOW then they will learn in an uncontrolled environment later and possibly put themselves in much MORE danger and pain.

If this VERY simple concept doesn't make sense to you then there is nothing I can do for you.

Do I worship Lucifer???
NO!!!!!
The thought is detestable to me!!!!
Absolutely NOT!!!!

Do I recognise his love for me and humanity?
Yes.

Do I worship the logos of this planet Yahweh?
NO!!!! The thought is equally detestable to me
Absolutely NOT!!!

Do I recognose his love for me and humanity?
Yes.
, the point is, ALL major world religions bar none have ONE thing in common no matter what else they teach.

They all teach us to worship OUTSIDE of ourselves.
They teach us that WE are powerless and we need Someone else in order to manage us and give us some semblance of hope.

I worship NO ONE but myself as I am all that IS, WAS, and EVER WILL BE!
I am at once the creaTOR and the CreatURE.
I derive my power from within and so I hope you will too.

Sorry for the religious rant but coming full circle
I hope that people will wake up to the forces that are really at play here.
Lucifer is no joke. He/it is VERY real and EVERYTHING you see playing out before you is a direct result of
Lucifer preparing this Earth for harvest.

Ultimately it will serve our greater good but it isn't going to be easy nor pretty.
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
If more gun laws are implemented they are going to have a lot more problems on their hands. I carry a small concealed 9mm , even with body armor on , that close of a range , 2 or 3 9mm rounds hitting center torso would cause shock. I would be aiming for the neck area however.

I carry and its just for reasons like this.
edit on 21-7-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)


Lets "what if" for a minute...

What if there was 5 honest people in the movie theater carrying concealed that knew how to really use their guns well...

The old saying is true, and even in this case where the cops showed up about as fast as it was humanly possible...

"WHEN SECONDS COUNT THE COPS ARE MINUTES AWAY..."



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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The timing of the Toronto and Aurora shootings coinciding with the imminent Arms Treaty agreement
is what I find suspicious.

These two incidents together DO ACT as a false flag to garner sympathy for the vote.

Remember this Arms Treaty is aimed at establishing common international standards for the import,
export and transfer of conventional arms.

It's true that people snap and go on killing sprees from time to time, and it may be true that this shooting
was planned for in advance, but the timing is suspicious and worthy of examination.

I have hear the argument that the Arms Treaty won't affect the US and the second amendment, but it
does put more legislation down, and the second amendment will not die a sudden death....if the
second amendment does become extinct, it will be by slow erosion.....



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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For some odd reason I have a feeling this shooter will somehow end up dead while in custody.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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what arms treaty?

there are not enough manpower on a global scale to disarm America. many many undocumented weapons out there. Logistically it wont happen.

get a grip on reality would ya!!



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