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Mass shooting in Aurora, CO (At Batman Film Premiere)

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by ZIPMATT

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by Yurimaster
It's mention that maybe psychiatric drugs may have also contribute, but the MSM fails to look in to it. www.naturalnews.com...


Because it has not been reported that he has been on anything of the sort yet. If they find that he has been, that will be known all over the place. Your linked article only speculates that it could have been a side effect, but that they dont even know if he takes them.


neuroscience student / guardian report


Sure, he's a neuroscience student. Doesnt mean that he took anything for depression or other related illnesses. Your link speculated about it because he fits the typical profile of a young, white, disturbed male.

I have NO doubt that if it is found that he takes anything of the sort, be it right or wrong, media outlets will be all over it.


Its not my link i dont open natual news , it normally bull. . but the guardian is not. not always anyway .
its a more serious proposition than the implied motive though , should we go there ?




posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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My theatre has ushers working and we can't get out the exit doors. If we want to leave if the show sucks, we exit how we came in. The exit doors are opened after the show ends.


What if there is a fire in the theater? People can't use the fire exit during the movie?



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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I think the local branch of law enforcement needs to really look at how this shooter got into the movie theatre with all these weapons - AR15, Shotgun, two hand guns, body armour, leg protection, neck protector, tactical mask, and smoke grenades/devices. The official account says that James Holmes bought a ticket abclocal.go.com.../national_world&id=8741503

and entered the theatre with the other audience members, so with that said, how in the hell did he get in the theatre past the ushers, the ticket taker, the staff with all of his gear? How did he get dressed up into all his gear sitting in the theatre without anyone noticing? Reports say he opened/propped open an emergency exit door ? Yet none of the eye witnesses recall two instances of that door being opened, but only one. Something is not right here. Also why were all the live witnesses interviews done 6-8 hrs after the event? I smell a Psy-op, with the UN Gun control bill up on the block this fits right into that political agenda.

thoughts?
edit on 20-7-2012 by Wewillallbefree because: added link



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by ZIPMATT

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by ZIPMATT

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by Yurimaster
It's mention that maybe psychiatric drugs may have also contribute, but the MSM fails to look in to it. www.naturalnews.com...


Because it has not been reported that he has been on anything of the sort yet. If they find that he has been, that will be known all over the place. Your linked article only speculates that it could have been a side effect, but that they dont even know if he takes them.


neuroscience student / guardian report


Sure, he's a neuroscience student. Doesnt mean that he took anything for depression or other related illnesses. Your link speculated about it because he fits the typical profile of a young, white, disturbed male.

I have NO doubt that if it is found that he takes anything of the sort, be it right or wrong, media outlets will be all over it.


Its not my link i dont open natual news , it normally bull. . but the guardian is not. not always anyway .
its a more serious proposition than the implied motive though , should we go there ?


I have no idea or any real speculation about the motive, as anything that could say would hardly be based on facts. The guy may or may not have been on medication, may or may not have been a bit psychotic, etc, etc ... we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out over the next week. I would imaging that since his first court appearance is scheduled for Monday morning, more information should come out shortly after.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by buni11687
Update - 14 killed, 50 wounded ....seeing this on my TV (fox)'



That's been amended to 12 dead and 59 wounded.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by DeadRising
This shouldn't be a debate of Americans and our guns. Sure it was the device used, but even if guns didn't exist, you could give a person a butter knife and they would find a way to kill if they really wanted to.

This is evil at work. Nothing else.


I agree, guns don't kill people, people kill people. There are more people that die every year from car accidents, drunk driving accidents, overdose of prescription drugs, etc. and we don't hear government or the mainstream news media call to banning the sale of cars, alcohol, or prescription drugs. But we do hear the government and the mainstream news media exploit the deaths of these shooting events because it is part of their agenda to confiscate weapons and banning the sale of firearms, so that they can carry out their agenda for an oppressive New World Order.

Switzerland actually mandates for people to have guns and they have the lowest crime rate in the world. I don't hear people calling for Switzerland to revoke it's gun laws.




posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by Wewillallbefree
I think the local branch of law enforcement needs to really look at how this shooter got into the movie theatre with all these weapons - AR15, Shotgun, two hand guns, body armour, leg protection, neck protector, tactical mask, and smoke grenades/devices. The official account says that James Holmes bought a ticket and entered the theatre with the other audience members, so with that said, how in the hell did he get in the theatre past the ushers, the ticket taker, the staff with all of his gear? How did he get dressed up into all his gear sitting in the theatre without anyone noticing? Reports say he opened/propped open an emergency exit door ? Yet none of the eye witnesses recall two instances of that door being opened, but only one. Something is not right here. Also why were all the live witnesses interviews done 6-8 hrs after the event? I smell a Psy-op, with the UN Gun control bill up on the block this fits right into that political agenda.

thoughts?


The answers to your questions have been trumpeted ad nauseum both in this thread and on TV all day long and right now. But the general idea is he parked in the back, very close to the theater's back doors. He bought a regular ticket, went in, got a seat, then went out through the back door, went to his car, loaded up and returned to theater.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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Another CNN headline:


In Aurora, the agonized seek answers through faith


Faith has nothing to do with this.

Humans are slowly realizing that they have nothing to lose.

Our politicians are corrupt and we have no God.

Sometimes i wonder why these shootings dont happen more often.

If the American population werent such "sheep", mass murderers might think twice.

Instead - you just gobble down your corn syrup, watch your Hollywood, pray to Jesus and brush with Flouride.....



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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Okay, this CNN article states he had a 100-rd magazine.

www.cnn.com...



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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Springer has already said - gun rights debates in one of the many threads dedicated to that.

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Really think big pharma with its billions of dollars
couldn't keep his meds under wraps>?>? Whats your price>?
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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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Ok but that means he opened the emergency exit twice then correct? How come none of the eyewitness accounts mention that door opening twice ?? It's not like you can't notice that door being open in a dark theatre right?

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by Wewillallbefree
I think the local branch of law enforcement needs to really look at how this shooter got into the movie theatre with all these weapons - AR15, Shotgun, two hand guns, body armour, leg protection, neck protector, tactical mask, and smoke grenades/devices. The official account says that James Holmes bought a ticket and entered the theatre with the other audience members, so with that said, how in the hell did he get in the theatre past the ushers, the ticket taker, the staff with all of his gear? How did he get dressed up into all his gear sitting in the theatre without anyone noticing? Reports say he opened/propped open an emergency exit door ? Yet none of the eye witnesses recall two instances of that door being opened, but only one. Something is not right here. Also why were all the live witnesses interviews done 6-8 hrs after the event? I smell a Psy-op, with the UN Gun control bill up on the block this fits right into that political agenda.

thoughts?


I was watching this live on CNN as it unfolded, the witnesses were live. Today more witnesses have been interviewed. Some have gone back to collect their vehicles. The media approaches them. So you get more interviews now, but there were others I saw last night.

Nobody noticing the door opening twice might mean they were preoccupied waiting for the movie, settling in. People are going in and out a lot right then, getting snacks or visiting the restrooms. Remember too it was dark
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edit on 20-7-2012 by violet because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Fair enough , but we do know some facts about it , it happened to a premiere of a film ? The content of it , whoever watches it , from this point , is now irreparably scarred . The reason for this may have an exclusive hold on the motivation. Or it may not . He was tooled up to th eyeballs , meds dont, tend to, allow that capacity



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Not sure if posted already but his motivation was from this comic book.
The bloodbath is a chilling copycat of a 25-year-old Batman comic strip which features a deranged gunman opening fire in a cinema.

In the second issue of The Dark Knight Returns, written by Frank Miller - the creative mind behind Sin City and 300 - gunman Arnold Crimp opens fire in a pornographic theatre, killing three people, after listening to Led Zepplin's classic track 'Stairway to Heaven.'






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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by ZIPMATT

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by ZIPMATT

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by Yurimaster
It's mention that maybe psychiatric drugs may have also contribute, but the MSM fails to look in to it. www.naturalnews.com...


Because it has not been reported that he has been on anything of the sort yet. If they find that he has been, that will be known all over the place. Your linked article only speculates that it could have been a side effect, but that they dont even know if he takes them.


neuroscience student / guardian report


Sure, he's a neuroscience student. Doesnt mean that he took anything for depression or other related illnesses. Your link speculated about it because he fits the typical profile of a young, white, disturbed male.

I have NO doubt that if it is found that he takes anything of the sort, be it right or wrong, media outlets will be all over it.


Its not my link i dont open natual news , it normally bull. . but the guardian is not. not always anyway .
its a more serious proposition than the implied motive though , should we go there ?


I was just pointing some speculation, artcles naturalnews website sometimes are not really true but more of the authors opinion.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by jimrat201, after listening to Led Zepplin's classic track 'Stairway to Heaven.'





Dollars to donuts that's what was blaring at his apartment that got the neighbors suspicious...



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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The sick bastard did NOT lock his door. It was a total set up to do whatever he's got rigged in that apartment.


About midnight, Fonzi said she heard like techno-like, deep-based reverberating music coming from that unit apartment. She went upstairs to the suspect's place and put her hand on the door handle. She felt it was unlocked, but she didn't know if he was there and decided not to confront him.


newsok.com...

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by coldkidc
reply to post by bellagirl
 


You think a no guns allowed sign would have stopped this guy? I don't.

You know what I think may have stopped him?

A couple weapons proficient people in the seats with their CCW & a firearm...just maybe he wouldn't have been able to run around for 20 mins shooting people.


The one report I saw said the shooting lasted for about 2 minutes. Unfortunately, cannot find it right now.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by ZIPMATT
reply to post by flyswatter
 


Fair enough , but we do know some facts about it , it happened to a premiere of a film ? The content of it , whoever watches it , from this point , is now irreparably scarred . The reason for this may have an exclusive hold on the motivation. Or it may not . He was tooled up to th eyeballs , meds dont, tend to, allow that capacity


We know *some* facts, you're absolutely correct. But as indicators on his motivation for doing this? We won't really know that until a bit more comes out. I think gaining full access to his apartment will be a big step - once that is cleared and safe, I'm sure we'll see some more clues to possible motives, causes for his feelings, etc. I just dont want to have a knee-jerk reaction as to a possible motive, as those motives can involve other people, and implicating others is not something to be done lightly.



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