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Don’t Jump to Conclusions About the Killer
YOU’VE had 48 hours to reflect on the ghastly shooting in Colorado at a movie theater. You’ve been bombarded with “facts” and opinions about James Holmes’s motives. You have probably expressed your opinion on why he did it. You are probably wrong.
Mr. Holmes has already been described as a loner. Proceed with caution on that. Nearly every shooter gets tagged with that label, because the public is convinced that that’s the profile, and people barely acquainted with the gunman parrot it back to every journalist they encounter. The Secret Service report determined that it’s usually not true.
Originally posted by Finalized
reply to post by Valhall
Rigging his apartment with IEDs shows the level of intelligence, forethought and planning that he did. Then, to flip around and say he didn't thoroughly research his main killing device for all known weaknesses is disingenuous.
Originally posted by skitzspiricy
reply to post by happyhomemaker29
I never stated you were putting Mental Health stigma back years.
I said that i've heard and seen many people who are stating that yes, he must have Schizophrenia, just because what he has done is crazed and horrific, including so called experts on TV. This is what puts Mental Health stigma back years, especially when it's touted on the TV for all to hear.
Some people really need to educate themselves more if they are going to make such statements.
I also never stated that people with Mental Illness/Psychotic like disorders never commit violence and murder. It is rare, but for the most part, when it does happen, it's random. This was not random, it was planned.
I'm sorry you had the experience of being abused by someone with Schizophrenia and i'm sorry you are suffering so much stress with your daughter.
I personally suffer from Severe Mental Illness, so does most of my family. I have been in the Mental Health community for a number of years and have met many people with Severe Mental Illnesses and Autism, and they have been some of the most wonderful people i have ever met.
edit on 22-7-2012 by skitzspiricy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jd0Fengland
www.1360kktx.com... here's a good piece about it i find it very strange he only set up the adult friend finder profile on the 5th of this month thats 15 days prior to the incident
Shooting suspect gun club membership rejected
Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes applied to join a Colorado gun range but never became a member after the owner became concerned over his "bizarre" message and behavior.
Owner Glenn Rotkovich says Holmes emailed an application to join the Lead Valley Range in Byers on June 25 and there were no overt warning signs in that form.
Holmes said he was not a user of illegal drugs or a convicted felon, so Rotkovich followed up by calling Holmes' apartment to invite him to a mandatory orientation the following week.
Rotkovich got Holmes' answering machine and says "it was bizarre — guttural, freakish at best."
Rotkovich left two other messages but eventually told his staff to watch for Holmes at the July 1 orientation and not to accept him into the club.
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
Wondering if he had an ATS profile?
The presence of brain dysfunction in violent offenders has been frequently examined with inconsistent results. The aim of the study was to assess the EEG of 84 violent offenders by visual inspection and frequency-domain quantitative analysis in 84 violent prisoners. Low-resolution electromagnetic tomography (LORETA) was also employed for theta band of the EEG spectra. Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) was present in 50 of the offenders and it was absent in the remaining 34. The prevalence of EEG abnormalities, by visual inspection, was similar for both the ASPD group (82%) and non-ASPD group (79%).
Originally posted by Finalized
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Also, brand new guns often jam until they get a good break-in period. He might have done his research, and bought a great gun, but if he didn't go cycle it through a few hundred rounds, then it wouldn't have operated as smoothly as he might have liked.edit on 22-7-2012 by getreadyalready because: (no reason given)
Again, if he was as calculating in his planning as they stated, he would have known this. This type of information is easily research able on the Internet as well as understanding the issues with a specific type of ammunition.
Originally posted by Wewillallbefree
If these people are so-called innocent bystanders tell me how Jennifer Seeger has been interviewed more times than anyone else, and in each interview her account is exactly the same, showing little to no emotion and certainly not very traumatized. Also explain to me how she gave a physical description match James Holmes to an exact T, yet the theatre was filled with tear gas and according to her she was prone on the ground and happened to be seated in the 3rd 4th row, which in a traditional movie theatre would have her in a elevated position, not the post point of view to be estimating someones height. I remember hearing her say that she casings had been hitting her in the forehead and burning her as the gunman fired, how did she get hit in the forehead with shell casings if she was prone on her front taking cover? She also said that the tear gas canister was green ? And that he pulled the pin after her got into the theatre, their are other eye witnesses that claim that the canisters were tossed into the theatre before Holmes entered, so how does she know the colour?
See this is the one piece of this story that doesn't make sense, almost every eyewitness has shown zero emotion, no signs of mental trauma, and have definitely forced some tears, or read their account of the events like they were in a debriefing, this is the main reason this whole thing stinks to high hell.
Care to debunk any of that info ?
Originally posted by flyswatter
Originally posted by timetothink
To the people that say all this speculation is sick and crazy, for those of you who wish to believe the msm story and go happily about your lives...fine and dandy for you.
But insulting others is rude, don't visit the thread and what in the world are you doing on this website....seems like a waste of your time?
People can have an opinion, thats fine. But stretching it beyond the realm of reason and making assumptions that become accusatory towards individuals appear to be innocent bystanders is also both rude and insulting - not necessarily to the people here, but definitely to those closer to the situation.