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Mass shooting in Aurora, CO (At Batman Film Premiere)

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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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CNN is really pushing the "insanity" angle , every specialist they have on is saying without reservation he is crazy, his brain chemistry is off blah blah blah...how can they possibly know that? How irresponsible, they just want that drilled into everyone's head. He could be trained, he could just evil...who knows?

It really is obvious the agenda they are pushing, they are setting up his defense without knowing a damn thing.

FYI...now they are saying the Bulgarian bomber might have had an accomplice after all....this just in!




posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Consider that THEY would never allow possibility it was some terrorist organization acting on USA territory. Never.

They would have to quickly improvise a weird loner character or something like that, acceptable for the emotional majority who don't ask too many questions.

However, this doesn't seem very likely, because it would actually involve this guy Holmes as an accomplice. Or, do we really know for sure it was Holmes who left theater at one moment when that phone rang?
edit on 21-7-2012 by DangerDeath because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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This mass killing appears totally out of character for this individual, so one should check for other influences.

For instance, the Police need to check his car, clothes, and apartment for any trace of '___' or related drugs that were tossed into his living space. They also need to look for low temp wax that may contain '___', which is a temperture release method for the drug on skin and heat contact.

'___' is a "contact drug" that absorbs via skin contact and makes a person so paranoid that they basically go crazy from fear and imagination. It is usually impossible to detect when used against a mark in this fashion and they for all purposes appear to go over the edge.

The issue is used to nullify various targets of interest by the CIA, illegal drug elements, and other interests, and it could well be that someone used a trick like this on the kid. The Police basically need to look for these residues in the living space and do some blood tests to look for other drug traces.


A real investigation would check all those factors for contact sensitive drug games being used to make the kid go nuts. They need to look at conflicts with house mates, and other factors.

The CIA types well know this trick, as well as many drug dealers, and it is hard to detect and most Police don't even bother to look. But they need to look for this case.




edit on 21-7-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Checking the forensics to include heat release '___' or related drug technique to instill fear and parnoia in a mark



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
Consider that THEY would never allow possibility it was some terrorist organization acting on USA territory. Never.

They would have to quickly improvise a weird loner character or something like that, acceptable for the emotional majority who don't ask too many questions.

However, this doesn't seem very likely, because it would actually involve this guy Holmes as an accomplice. Or, do we really know for sure it was Holmes who left theater at one moment when that phone rang?
edit on 21-7-2012 by DangerDeath because: (no reason given)


The security camera videos are of the utmost importance, for all we know so far, he could of been a stooge waiting outside the door all dressed up whilst a guy in the same gear ran in did the deed then ran off to another waiting vehicle with driver and blacked out windows that sped off before the police arrived.

There should be the release of these videos and the capture, it sounds too easy that the police were there waiting as the guy was standing around his car, this thing happened in 2 minutes and he was out the exit, difficult to believe the police were there waiting for him within 2 minutes



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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I find it interesting that the guy was lost in the custody for 16 hours before he was booked. That would be 16 hours of questioning by the feds. How long can they legally question someone before booking them?

www.co.arapahoe.co.us...




Inmate: HOLMES, JAMES EAGAN Booking Number: 201200009751
Total Bond Amount: $0.00 Booking Date: 07/20/2012 5:35 PM
MURDER IN THE 1ST DEGREE FELONY - CLASS 1 $0.00 07/23/2012 9:30 AM
Arapahoe County District Court
7325 S. Potomac St
Centennial, CO 80112
303-649-6355


www.inquisitr.com...


The 24-year-old shooter’s own mother confirmed his identity to the press, hours after he was taken into custody (around 12:40 a.m.), reports San Diego 6.


Also his court date has been set for 07/23/2012 9:30 AM Arapahoe County District Court.

edit on 21-7-2012 by JBA2848 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Exactly a REAL investigation should check all of this, this is high profile so things like blood analysis should be imperative as well as complete forensics of his car and apartment and research facilities, basically anywhere this guy has been active in any way for the past 6 months or more, for chemicals as well as any other evidence, all contacts online, phone tracking for months, this can all be done and SHOULD be done



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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I remember someone reported that the police was all over the place in another theater 30 minutes before this happened?
Could be that the police was tipped that something will happen, but didn't get the right location? So they went to the wrong place.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
reply to post by MagnumOpus
 


Exactly a REAL investigation should check all of this, this is high profile so things like blood analysis should be imperative as well as complete forensics of his car and apartment and research facilities, basically anywhere this guy has been active in any way for the past 6 months or more, for chemicals as well as any other evidence, all contacts online, phone tracking for months, this can all be done and SHOULD be done


None of it will be done. This is an open and shut case. Don't you know? For me, that's the give-away that this isn't what it appears to be.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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Or his intention was the destruction of any evidence or traces of blame. This could indicate there are other forces involved, there are many possible scenarios, like was the guy a loner with a grudge, crazy and just acting it out, or was he maybe involved in a group and was part of something, or exploited with blackmail or death threats to his parents for example, if he didn't go along with their plan, or it could have been he was involved in some dark practices thing where he was part of something that altered his mind and therefore there are others involved in mind manipulation, or some illegal drug use, even prescribed type drugs, that got out of hand and he was being blackmailed not to stop or that his parent might be involved if he didn't cover them or do some sort of drug run for them, it could be so many things that are plausible scenarios involving other people.

Those that are prepared just to let it lie as ''oh crazy loner flipped'' are doing the world an injustice. Ther ere often situations that are below the surface that show others involved in various levels. If there are then these people need brought to justice in addition to the suspect.

I know of plenty of cases where people were blackmailed into doing things they wouldn't normally do under the threat of hurting their loved ones. Those that blackmail will get caught.
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
CNN is really pushing the "insanity" angle , every specialist they have on is saying without reservation he is crazy, his brain chemistry is off blah blah blah...how can they possibly know that? How irresponsible, they just want that drilled into everyone's head. He could be trained, he could just evil...who knows?


Fox News was doing the same thing last night. Had some expert/ former detective from NY on (if my memory serves me correctly).

At the end of the segment, the expert just went on a mini rant, that he probably was schizophrenic or Bi-Polar, without any evidence saying so. Having family that suffer from Bi-Polar syndrome I find it highly odd that they would attack a group of people suffering from bouts of depression/ mania. Sort of demonizing a disease.

When he downplayed the illness almost as always being violent I sort of began to wonder.

A) If the shooter actually has a history of Bi-Polar/ Schizophrenia (at this point, there isn't even a little evidence), then perhaps this will be a two fold attack on all civilian rights.

First, as we all know the rights to bear arms.

Second, and sort of more perverse, perhaps all those who suffer such a mental condition will now be a) court ordered to always seek medical help/ hospitalization (i.e. almost making the condition a medical crime that must be contained). It's a scary thought that a group of people can be demonized so easily, without any shred of evidence.

Bi-Polar people are more inclined to commit suicide for one, not hurt/harm other people... Stop demonizing the illness, most of which are not even reported upon accurately.... It's amazing to me at least, that these mental illnesses are the OK to basically generalize and demonize, when the condition is anything but. I see it all the time within my own experiences with family that have the illness.

It's like the last bastion for bigotry left, that's OKAY to openly hate on. It's sickening.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by theabsolutetruth

Originally posted by DangerDeath
Consider that THEY would never allow possibility it was some terrorist organization acting on USA territory. Never.

They would have to quickly improvise a weird loner character or something like that, acceptable for the emotional majority who don't ask too many questions.

However, this doesn't seem very likely, because it would actually involve this guy Holmes as an accomplice. Or, do we really know for sure it was Holmes who left theater at one moment when that phone rang?
edit on 21-7-2012 by DangerDeath because: (no reason given)


The security camera videos are of the utmost importance, for all we know so far, he could of been a stooge waiting outside the door all dressed up whilst a guy in the same gear ran in did the deed then ran off to another waiting vehicle with driver and blacked out windows that sped off before the police arrived.

There should be the release of these videos and the capture, it sounds too easy that the police were there waiting as the guy was standing around his car, this thing happened in 2 minutes and he was out the exit, difficult to believe the police were there waiting for him within 2 minutes


Yes, but once the FBI gets involved every piece of evidence is controlled by them and then they slowly release any important evidence to the public once they have done "editing" out anything that may contradict their story.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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I know how you feel. I suffer from Porphyria and am constantly told by the MSM that it drives you insane and makes you eat people. Not just give you migraines like I have experienced my entire life.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Well I would say he put on a costume with changing his hair to orange. And he also put on a costume by putting on the outfit used during the attack. I don't think that is bipolar. Sounds more multiple personalities. He chose a comic book villian to become to act out.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Has the FBI taken over yet? I'm not sure they have.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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I can empathise on that. My son has enhanced sensory perception with possible high functioning Asbergers, this causes sensory overload, and whilst he looks normal and mostly behaves normally, sometimes just being in a busy environment like a shop could cause major overload behaviour and him shouting or verbally attacking me, I have endured all sorts of comments from other parents and people in shops about my son and also aimed at me. It is something our society has to address.
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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I don't know if anyone posted this, but what the front door?!?

Holmes Adult friend Finder Account


5) The user’s personal bio quote is: “Will you visit me in prison?” This fits neatly with the fact that he gave up to police without incident, seemingly all part of a plan (almost too much so).


What in the hell is going on here?



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Drew99GT
I don't know if anyone posted this, but what the front door?!?

Holmes Adult friend Finder Account


5) The user’s personal bio quote is: “Will you visit me in prison?” This fits neatly with the fact that he gave up to police without incident, seemingly all part of a plan (almost too much so).


What in the hell is going on here?



This doesn't mean he did it.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by Drew99GT
I don't know if anyone posted this, but what the front door?!?

Holmes Adult friend Finder Account


5) The user’s personal bio quote is: “Will you visit me in prison?” This fits neatly with the fact that he gave up to police without incident, seemingly all part of a plan (almost too much so).


What in the hell is going on here?


His eyes look drugged on these AFF pictures. A pevious job of mine was front line housing and we were taught how to tell from eyes if a resident was under the influence of drugs, prescribed and otherwise, as there were courses of action if they were deemed under the influence.
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posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:20 PM
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I just mentioned in a thread last week...M. Obama had mentioned in 2009 that welfare recipients should have their own hospitals and I said with Obamacare they could enact this and do the same with the mentally ill, instituting asylums again like old days. Back when we locked all the defective people away.



posted on Jul, 21 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Drew99GT
I don't know if anyone posted this, but what the front door?!?

Holmes Adult friend Finder Account


5) The user’s personal bio quote is: “Will you visit me in prison?” This fits neatly with the fact that he gave up to police without incident, seemingly all part of a plan (almost too much so).


What in the hell is going on here?


Here is the profile page from his AFF, if it is real, into group sex? and refused to say on smoking and drugs?





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