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Mass shooting in Aurora, CO (At Batman Film Premiere)

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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What Holmes' mother said, upon finding out that her son was in custody was quite strange. Apparently she woke up to this whole ordeal and called the police. She immediately told them "You have the right man". This was according to a news break through Reuters I was listening to.




posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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I think his personal failures might have brung him down, but not so convinced his motive was notoriety.

Some people get so depressed and instead of just sticking with hating themselves, they start to hate others for reasons they find rational.


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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet in this thread and my apologies if so...

However, does anyone else find it extraordinary that the only named victim Jessica Ghawi (the up and coming sports caster) was not but 2 months ago in the direct vicinity and escaped perhaps a similar tragedy (Toronto Mall shooting) that has unfortunately befallen her in the Colorado theater incident?

If anyone watched the interview with her brother on the Aurora News station today as well, that seemed very scripted imo. Perhaps it's nothing, but the odds are rather intriguing.

Makes me curious about the particulars of this girl.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Heath as the Joker had red hair during the hospital scene. So perhaps he was emulating that in someway? Or it was coincidence. Or... he didn't have red hair.

Was anyone watching MSNBC just now? About 10 min ago they had a girl on for a few seconds and all I caught was "we heard loud techno music playing". I was half paying attention to the news and reading ATS so i'm not sure what she was referring to but it was definitely related to the shooting. Anyone else catch this???



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by fleabit
 


Yes and here is the article:

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Both killers dyed their hair RED
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Rather than the Red Hair connection, what about the AFF connection? Could this have been a result of him being rejected by women? Could other things come into play like bans on prostitution?

AND, my wife is convinced the girl that happened to be at both shootings is just too big of a coincidence. Could she have had an AFF account and been in both places because she connected with the shooters somehow?


That chick could be channeling the death in. Like doing worship. After they dedicate themselves and commit to "her", "she" opens the door to the black. Some people get really cozy with her and she allows them to "control" things, but in reality its just opening the door to that force. The person begins to think they are controlling the environment and such, and eventually she kills them (pride before the fall). Thats why its always best to stick with God, he is a little too forgiving sometimes, but better than death.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready

AND, my wife is convinced the girl that happened to be at both shootings is just too big of a coincidence. Could she have had an AFF account and been in both places because she connected with the shooters somehow?


^^YES! That's what I'm thinking. What is the DEAL with her being at both places... one in Canada and one here.

But i dunno about her being on AFF... that could ruin that little career of hers she's was going for. Which would make her very public and anyone could out her. "hey, that lady's on AFF!"



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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I dont know how real this is, but its relevant to discussion as a detail the tv isnt showing (if the msm even know about it yet)

img12.imageshack.us...
image been floating around the net now. events have happened like this before with people posting on the chans beforehand. so there is that



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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I know I'm still 50 pages knee deep in response reading, but I am curious. Everyone is bring up Manchurian Candidate and all sorts of scenarios, but I wonder, has anyone picked up on the clue that his mother suspected it was her son as soon as she heard the news? Does mental illness run in the family? He is at the right age for
schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia.



Social withdrawal
Hostility or suspiciousness
Deterioration of personal hygiene
Flat, expressionless gaze
Inability to cry or express joy
Inappropriate laughter or crying
Depression
Oversleeping or insomnia
Odd or irrational statements
Forgetful; unable to concentrate
Extreme reaction to criticism
Strange use of words or way of speaking


Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is THE cause of today's tragedy, I'm just saying it was awfully quick of mom to say it was her son, how did she know in her heart it was her son, why did she know it was her son, is this something familial she's experienced, though not to this level I'm sure, before? Just something to look into other than mind control.

Sometimes when you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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He rigged the techno music at his apt. to draw in police or others as a diversion.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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It appears the Colorado shooter dyed his hair red not long before the shootings:

www.dailymail.co.uk...

The alledged suicide bomber in Bulgeria also dyed his hair red:

www.dailymail.co.uk...

It's probably nothing but I just found it strange.......are dyed red heads the "in fashion" for murderers not even connected to each other?




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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by UberL33t
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet in this thread and my apologies if so...

However, does anyone else find it extraordinary that the only named victim Jessica Ghawi (the up and coming sports caster) was not but 2 months ago in the direct vicinity and escaped perhaps a similar tragedy (Toronto Mall shooting) that has unfortunately befallen her in the Colorado theater incident?

If anyone watched the interview with her brother on the Aurora News station today as well, that seemed very scripted imo. Perhaps it's nothing, but the odds are rather intriguing.

Makes me curious about the particulars of this girl.


I agree and anyone know why she would use a different last name over the air as Jessica Redfield, is that common to use a different last name for media?



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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Just a reminder a recap can be found on page 67.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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It's no big deal he has red hair. It's that a small bit of info got out via Oates and Kelly about Holmes' hair, and until the AFF site came to light there was nothing to support the claim that his hair was red (since nobody today saw anything other than a man draped in black armor).


@IamMe14, the techo music was what Holmes had playing in his apartment. He had it on a timer really loud so someone would open the door and set off the explosives. His downstairs neighbor heard the music, went upstairs and had the knob turned enough to realize it was unlocked before she decided to leave him alone.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
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He rigged the techno music at his apt. to draw in police or others as a diversion.


Thanks, I've been waiting to find out what music was playing at his apartment. I didn't know the information had been released already and this was the first mention of techno music I had heard of.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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the dudes blatantly a brainwashed assasin.

its just too random....
i know green is the colour to trigger assasins.....theres a dude on british tv that showed it.....cant remeber his name, hes got a goatie.....


so do they rekon they will make more money when blood is spilt???



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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I'm wondering about how he was able to afford so much especially if recently purchased. The guns could be collected over years pretty easily, but bought all at once that's a pretty good chunk of change. The girl that was at two shootings is pretty freaky and sticks out to me as well.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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Don't make that connection.

It happens sometimes...these coincidences....

like this, for example:


An Italian woman who arrived to the airport late for the fatal Air France flight 447 has died in a car accident, according to ANSA news agency.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Secluded.Introvert Maybe.What the hell.Just a damn shame for everyone. R.I.P.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by metaldemon2000
Has anyone questioned as to how a chronically unemployed Med school dropout gets his hands on thousands of dollars worth of weapons, ammunition, bomb making equipment and full body armour and tear gas, and all in a post 9/11 America where you can't watch porn without the govt knowing?

And how he manage to rig up such an elaborate device in his apt.

Like I know some people are smart but this is a little too obvious. Parents are complying so they probably had no idea their son had a mini armory operating in his apartment.

And all in time for an election, gun control being a topic.


I'm guessing he might have used his mothers credit card for his online shopping and that's why she made the strange comment " you got the right man" .

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Right now all the info is confusing. Last night he lived with two room mates and now he lived alone.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
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He rigged the techno music at his apt. to draw in police or others as a diversion.


There is a lot of RED/BLACK music thats electronic/computer generated




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